Hillary Supporters unite part 2; no bashing please

[jacksonsmom]

Geez...the only thing worse then a sore loser; is a sore winner!!!

Its one thing to come over here and say "hey your candidate fought a good fight. Hope we are able to come together" I can talk with people like that and even understand where they are coming from

But a whole different ballgame to say 'Hahahaha" and take little jabs at the candidate we support. People like that turn me off to anything good you have to say about your candidate!

Hillay will always be a WINNER in my book, no matter who or even what at this point I vote for in November

THANK YOU for the OS (although there have really only been just a few) who have been nice and even stood up for Hillary supporters! It is because of you guys I do wish I didn't have such a distrust of the guy

 

[Dolce27]

Dolce27 not bashing you at all.
I was angry at MAF for coming here throwing out a couple of Hillary bashes and running back to the Obama thread with a "hey look what I did and can you believe what they are saying" I have been reading that junk for a few months and I'm tired of it.
You have been a great source of information for me. We may not see eye to eye on the joint ticket, but I have been calling this since the beginning and I will not jam my opinion down anyones' throat.
I am a husband and father first, an American second and a Democrat third.
I don't take any of the political talk personally.

I didn’t think that you were bashing me. I managed to (fortunately) miss MAF’s post(s) that you were responding to; that’s why I quoted you. You haven’t posted on the HS thread much but I recall that every time you have, you’ve come across as a nice and respectable person so I figured that MAF must have been posting some really hateful stuff for you to get that upset.

The intention of my post was to tell you thank you. Per the comments in your post about what the topic had been, I was probably one being bashed (maybe not by name) since I don’t currently agree with the dream ticket. (Maybe I can change my mind on this one; I’ll have to see how Obama behaves should Hillary be declared his VP).

I am a husband and father first, an American second and a Democrat third.

Oh, and would you stop having your priorities straight!

 

[Planogirl]

I just wanted to peek in and congratulate you all for having supported a strong candidate who gave a graceful speech tonight. I'm proud, as a woman and a Democrat, to see how far she has come.

As far as I'm concerned, I hope any of you who are interested will join us in the Obama thread whenever you would like to do so, for some respectful discourse. We've got a lot more in common than not, and I will do my part to make you feel welcome if you choose to visit.

I would personally love to chat with you, however anywhere but there. That thread just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, at least right now.

I plan to hang out on the Liberal thread (unless it dies of course) and will see about discussing issues there.

 

[jacksonsmom]

Well, my fellow Hillary supports, I am off to bed.

Although the night was disappointing, I am happy for the South Dakota win and Hillary's speech perked me up a bit.

What a great lady she is.

I really, really loved her speech tonight

 

[Planogirl]

Hi all. I have been a way for awhile but thought I would stop by for a little understanding this evening. Let's just hope the OS can show a little graciousness and stay off this thread for now. (Yeah right - who am I kidding! )

I will not support an Obama/Clinton ticket at all. As I said in the email I sent her campaign - any acceptance of a position with the Obama campaign is like accepting that seat in the back of the bus. I also encouraged an independent run. The DNC has shown the measure of their support and loyalty to her - maybe she should repay them in kind.

I am in FL and there is no way this state is going blue for Obama no matter who I vote for. So I will be voting Green and I encourage others to do the same. Their ideals are what I remember joining the Dems for in the 1st place.

I actually find the idea of an independent ticket intriguing but again the problem is money. Hillary basically has none and this campaigning stuff is expensive.

I will wait to see what she says and go from there.

 

[robinb]

I plan to hang out on the Liberal thread (unless it dies of course) and will see about discussing issues there.

I would really like to see the Liberal Thread the place to hang out and discuss the November election.

 

[Planogirl]

I have always wanted the "Dream Ticket" no matter who was the front runner. Yes laughing was HIGHLY immature, but I just got sick of Hillary supporters talking trash in our thread for the past few months. I'm sorry, I truly am.

I wonder why you're suddenly sorry. Forget it.

 

[phragmipedium]

I would personally love to chat with you, however anywhere but there. That thread just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I plan to hang out on the Liberal thread (unless it dies of course) and will see about discussing issues there.

I wish people on all sides would realize that lashing out at each other, insulting each other, and insulting each other's candidates is not a respectful way to conduct political discourse or get anyone to see your side. I try to just skip over the inflammatory posts and remember that none of us are true representatives for our candidates (and perhaps we're more defensive on their behalf than they would be!), so I won't let anyone else's posts impact my opinion of any of the candidates, but I understand it can be hard to do skip over some of them. Though we're not representatives, I try to conduct myself as sort of an ambassador and in the way I think Obama would want his supporters to behave. I hope people who "misbehave" on all sides realize they're not positively reflecting the person they wish to support. I'm sorry you don't feel welcome, and I look forward to seeing you around here and the Liberal thread.

 

[Planogirl]

Hey, I have never been to this thread as I am an os but I just want to say I agree 100% When deciding who I would like I was very close to choosing Hillary. I mostly just lurk on the Obama thread and have not voiced my opinion very often but now that things have changed I want to give a to the two of them joining forces. It would be a phenomenal and historic event! There is much disagreement and emotions involved but I am sure that we all want what is best for our country!

Now this is what I'm talking about. Thanks for posting.

 

[Planogirl]

I wish people on all sides would realize that lashing out at each other, insulting each other, and insulting each other's candidates is not a respectful way to conduct political discourse or get anyone to see your side. I try to just skip over the inflammatory posts and remember that none of us are true representatives for our candidates (and perhaps we're more defensive on their behalf than they would be!), so I won't let anyone else's posts impact my opinion of any of the candidates, but I understand it can be hard to do skip over some of them. Though we're not representatives, I try to conduct myself as sort of an ambassador and in the way I think Obama would want his supporters to behave. I hope people who "misbehave" on all sides realize they're not positively reflecting the person they wish to support. I'm sorry you don't feel welcome, and I look forward to seeing you around here and the Liberal thread.

You have always been kind and if supporters on all three sides behaved like this, it would really be something. I personally just need some time - a few people I respect have been very rude and I don't want to be associated with it. I'm sure a lot of us will come around though.

 

["Got Disney"]

Just curious who would you want Obama to pick to be his VP that would make you feel comfortable to vote for him? Who do you feel safe with to take over this country if something god forbid were to happen to him???

I cant think of anyones strengths or fight or knowledge close to Hillary to take the VP spot...

But dont want him to take her as his VP with a gun to his head either....

 

[douglisa]

Now this is what I'm talking about. Thanks for posting.

Thank you.I have respect for you and your posts, always a pleasure to read.
You seem very nice.

 

[JARNJ3]

Tonight's letter from Hillary:

Over the course of this campaign, I have seen the promise of America in your courage and character, your energy and ingenuity, and your compassion and faith.

Your spirit has inspired me every day in this race. While I traveled this country talking about how I wanted to help you -- time and again, you reached out to help me. To grab my hand or grip my arm, to look me in my eyes and tell me, don’t quit, keep fighting, stay in this race for us. There were days when I had strength enough for the both of us -- and on the days I didn't, I leaned on you.

This has always been your campaign, and tonight, there's no one I want to hear from more than you. I hope you're as proud as I am of what we've done and that you'll take a moment to share your thoughts with me now at my website.

I want to congratulate Senator Obama and his supporters on the extraordinary race that they have run. Senator Obama has inspired so many Americans to care about politics and empowered so many more to get involved, and our party and our democracy are stronger and more vibrant as a result.

Whatever path I travel next, I promise I will keep faith with you and everyone I have met across this good and great country. There is no possible way to thank you enough for everything you have done throughout this primary season, and you will always be in my heart.

 

[Planogirl]

That's nice. Very nice. I'll always have faith in her.

 

[Duckfan-in-Chicago]

OK, question:

How many of you would actually support an Obama/Clinton ticket?

I'm not for it. The reason I'm not for it is because I don't think Obama would give Hillary any respect at all as his VP. I don't think he'd listen to any advice she'd offer. I think he'd take the credit for anything she'd get done in the administration. I honestly believe that if he were to screw up this country he'd use her as his scapegoat.

I just don't think that would be a good ticket.

I don't vote for VPs. I don't think a book about famous/important/influential VPs in American History would fly off the shelves. Some important people have held the job, but their talents were wasted in that position.

I've stated early in the first HC thread that I wasn't going to vote for Obama. I voted for HC in the Primary here. I voted for him for the Senate. I've stated all of this before, but this is why I won't vote for him again:

The speeches he gave when running for Senate were very similar to the speeches he's giving now running for President. One of the keys he ran on was health care in Illinois. I was very impressed with listening to him speak. He sounded different than anyone else.

Since my wife was a high risk pregnancy with my first child and this was near the same time I paid very close attention to this issue. It doesn't make a difference to me if there is universal health care in this country or not if there are no practicing OB/Gyns in Illinois. They're all leaving the state to go to Wisconsin and other border states because of lower insurance rates. In some parts of Suburban Chicago (kind of a major metro area) you have to drive to a different county if you are a high risk pregnancy because you can't get a doctor to treat you. Just the kind of thing you want to do if you're high risk-drive a lot.

Obama promised to bring everyone to the table-doctors, lawyers, insurance people...of course he would have the biggest chair, because he was the senator (wait for laugh line). And everything would be worked out. This meeting never took place. But he was on Oprah a few times!

Since that election, I've had my second child. Another doctor has left my wife's practice. They have also started sharing the office with some people doing hair removal and a GP of some kind. So there are old guys sitting around the waiting room looking pretty uncomfortable with a bunch of pregnant women.

We have a shortage of specialists in Illinois. It has nothing to do with people being uninsured. It has to do with malpractice being too high in the state for the doctors to practice in the state so they're closing up shop and moving next door. If you take a blow to the head in southern Illinois, you better get someone to drive you as fast as possible to Indy or Missouri because there aren't many Neurologists down south. Here in Chicago, my neurologist is slightly specialized so I have to book him about 3 months out. If I want to change my meds or something I have to talk to a nurse who has to talk to the doctor who has to then talk back to the nurse who then has to talk back to me.

Now he's going to bring a bunch of people to the table as President. Of course, he'll have the biggest chair, yadda yadda yadda.

Fool me once, shame on you.

 

[mom2twinz3]

I wish people on all sides would realize that lashing out at each other, insulting each other, and insulting each other's candidates is not a respectful way to conduct political discourse or get anyone to see your side. I try to just skip over the inflammatory posts and remember that none of us are true representatives for our candidates (and perhaps we're more defensive on their behalf than they would be!), so I won't let anyone else's posts impact my opinion of any of the candidates, but I understand it can be hard to do skip over some of them. Though we're not representatives, I try to conduct myself as sort of an ambassador and in the way I think Obama would want his supporters to behave. I hope people who "misbehave" on all sides realize they're not positively reflecting the person they wish to support. I'm sorry you don't feel welcome, and I look forward to seeing you around here and the Liberal thread.

I've tried to make this point before. One lady did listen to me and agreed not to use "McSame" anymore.

But there are many others that seemingly feel they have to call names and denigrate either candidates, supporters or both to get their points across.

I admit to joking around like posting the worshipping smileys yesterday, but that was all in good fun and not done in a mean-spirited way. But I have seen several posters be downright intentionally mean, and that serves no useful purpose. I have seen the Appalachian poeople denigrated as illiterate racists, which to me is just as upsetting as denigrating any other social group. I have to say that I have seen this way more with the OS (not you, you are a class act) than any other group.

I would love to see a spirit of mutual respect and civil debate in the political threads. Truly, we are all Americans and we should be able to converse and discuss things in an intelligent and mature fashion with OS, HS amd McCain supporters alike. We all have to share the country and we may as well get along with one another.

I stand by my earlier statement that TPTB like to get us citizens all angry and riled up at one another becuase it distracts us from what they are up to! If so, we certainly bend over to accomodate them.

Mary

 

[kinntj]

Hi guys,

Hillary's speech was great! I wish she would have said more about unity in last nights speech, but we'll see what she has under her belt. I'm not happy about Obama being the nominee, but will vote for him anyway. I have mixed feelings about Hillary as the VP, but mostly I don't like it. She's too active to be in the 2nd seat and I think she could do much more as a Senator. VP would limit her too much. I hope she runs again in 2012!

Everyone seems to be forcing the issue of Hillary being VP and I don't like that one bit. Too me, Obama taking that is a sign of weakness. Remember, I called him a puppet and that would prove my point.

I did have a rum and Coke last night to calm down my sadness on her not being the nominee.

I hate MSNBC for interrupting McCain's speech for Obama's presumptive nominee news. I had to switch it to another channel to continue to hear his speech. I may not vote for the guy, but I do want to hear what he has to say. That news could have waited until the end.

I did email Hillary and told her I supported her in any decision she chooses. I told her that VP was too limiting for her abilities to do what she needs to do in our Nation. I asked her to run again in the future. Not all in those words, but in a round about way. I thanked her for fighting for FL and MI to have our votes/voices heard.

I'm transitioning over to Obama's campaign, but it has been very hard to focus on someone else than Hillary. The OS still talk badly about Hillary, but I tend to ignore those posts and move on to talk about issues and the GE.

I'm going out today to buy Hillary's book. She's been an inspiration to me and a great fighter for the people. This has been a moment to never forget.

 

[akhenaten]

Hi guys,

Hillary's speech was great! I wish she would have said more about unity in last nights speech, but we'll see what she has under her belt. I'm not happy about Obama being the nominee, but will vote for him anyway. I have mixed feelings about Hillary as the VP, but mostly I don't like it. She's too active to be in the 2nd seat and I think she could do much more as a Senator. VP would limit her too much. I hope she runs again in 2012!

Everyone seems to be forcing the issue of Hillary being VP and I don't like that one bit. Too me, Obama taking that is a sign of weakness. Remember, I called him a puppet and that would prove my point.

I did have a rum and Coke last night to calm down my sadness on her not being the nominee.

I hate MSNBC for interrupting McCain's speech for Obama's presumptive nominee news. I had to switch it to another channel to continue to hear his speech. I may not vote for the guy, but I do want to hear what he has to say. That news could have waited until the end.

I did email Hillary and told her I supported her in any decision she chooses. I told her that VP was too limiting for her abilities to do what she needs to do in our Nation. I asked her to run again in the future. Not all in those words, but in a round about way. I thanked her for fighting for FL and MI to have our votes/voices heard.

I'm transitioning over to Obama's campaign, but it has been very hard to focus on someone else than Hillary. The OS still talk badly about Hillary, but I tend to ignore those posts and move on to talk about issues and the GE.

I'm going out today to buy Hillary's book. She's been an inspiration to me and a great fighter for the people. This has been a moment to never forget.

Thats great...can we change one thing though...Hillary can run again in 2016!
2 terms for Obama!

 

[akhenaten]

to hillary supporters.......

this campaign was such a rollercoaster .....i know there were times I thought we were down and out and it really hurt to believe so strongly in someone and think of them losing....

You know that whatever she does in the future , she will continue to be a strong force in our government and a strong advocate for the people of our nation....

 

[kinntj]

Thats great...can we change one thing though...Hillary can run again in 2016!
2 terms for Obama!

Ooops, My BAD!!!!