Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

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Fits - please do not take offense at this because I do not mean it in an accusatory manner at all - but it does seem to me that your first preference is Obama and that you will vote for Hillary only if he does not get the nom.

Is this an accurate statement of your position?

I voted for Obama in the NJ primary, but it took me a good long time in that booth. I found it a real struggle because I truly believe that either one of them would make an excellent POTUS, and far better than McCain or any of the other candidates on the Republican ticket at the time. I remember thinking at the time that it was a truly sad thing that Hillary wasn't "ready" in 2004, because we might be living in a very different country if she had been. To me, it seems a shame to have two good choices in one year. I have an Obama shirt, sign and buttons and I have a Hillary shirt, sign and buttons-so I'm ready for whoever wins!!


My only issue with Hillary is that she tends to campaign negatively. She did it when running for Senate in NY and she's doing it now. However, I have seen that her campaign style does not have any carryover to the way she works.
 
I edited my post to say that those who are supporting more than 1 candidate could talk about who they voted/will vote for in their primaries. If that helps?

Also - I invited our conservative friends to come over and post about McCain as well. Weird that post was my 666th!
 
Now McCain's calling Obama names........

McCain camp calls Obama 'recklessly dishonest'
Posted: 01:07 PM ET

(CNN) — John McCain's campaign is crying foul over what it characterizes as repeated distortions from Barack Obama, saying on Friday the Illinois senator is "recklessly dishonest."

The most recent dustup comes after Obama criticized McCain earlier Friday for comments the Arizona senator made in an interview on Bloomberg Television.

"John McCain went on television and said that there has been quote "great progress economically over the last seven and a half years," Obama told a Pennsylvania crowd. "John McCain thinks our economy has made great progress under George W. Bush. Now, how could somebody who has been traveling across this country, somebody who came to Erie, PA, say we've made great progress?”

The McCain campaign immediately took issue with the comment, noting the Arizona senator also said he knows families are facing "tremendous economic challenges."

“American families are hurting and Barack Obama is being recklessly dishonest," McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds said. "It is clear that Barack Obama is intentionally twisting John McCain’s words completely out of context. Obama is guilty of deliberately distorting John McCain’s comments for pure political gain, which is exactly what Senator Obama was complaining about just yesterday."

The McCain campaign has long argued Obama has a habit of twisting the presumptive Republican nominee's words. Referencing McCain's comments earlier this year when he said he'd be okay with some troop presence in Iraq for 100 years, Obama has said the Arizona senator "wants to continue a war in Iraq perhaps as long as 100 years."

The non-partisan factcheck.org later called that characterization a "rank falsehood."

Obama has since dialed back from that characterization, saying Friday that McCain is "willing to potentially maintain the troop presence there for as long as 100 years."
 

Since when is calling someone "dishonest" name-calling? It's a lot better than Barack's "I'm a pretty darn good politician"!
 
Since when is calling someone "dishonest" name-calling? It's a lot better than Barack's "I'm a pretty darn good politician"!

I'm fairly certain that anyone running for POTUS would think that they were "a pretty darn good politician". Running for that job takes a lot of self-confidence because you're going to get torn apart by people 24/7. You have to be convinced that you're the best person for the job, because you can't count on anyone else to believe it for you.
 
Well, I expect McCain to do that!

Is it true? Recklessly dishonest?

Seems to me - calling a politician dishonest is the worst name in the book. Hillary had to whether than storm in her Bosnia account.....

Is that different than Obama twisting McCain's words around?
 
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Is it true? Recklessly dishonest?

Seems to me - calling a politician dishonest is the worst name in the book. Hillary had to whether than storm in her Bosnia account.....

Is that different than Obama twisting McCain's words around?

But that's what politicians do in an election. The Republican says the Democrat is dishonest and the Democrat says the Republican is dishonest. I don't see that changing any time soon.
 
No more debates for Obama!

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/04/17/campaign.wrap/index.html

1 debate they go after him...and he had enough!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Whadda Load.

I give him that that he is busy but after the other night i dont think that is the only reason that his campaign is keeping him locked up in a bird cage.....hered that from a news channel...the bird cage part :thumbsup2

I remember being outraged about the whole "cookie baking" thing back in '92. I liked the fact that Hillary wasn't a Stepford wife, hosting White House teas. I liked that she was smart-I always thought she was smarter than Bill, frankly. I knew that she wasn't elitist for saying what she did, didn't all of you?

I agree.....I felt that she could have been like your regular white house wives...but she had all intentions on running for POTUS some day and not just be happy being the Presidents wife.

I would have taken offense back then if someone told me to just bake cookies...Shoot if they did that to me know I would be like...excuse me :rotfl:
 
DISUNC, it's pointless to point out to an Obama supporter that they are hypocrites. The Obama thread is so chocked full of hate, mudslinging, and wrongful accusations towards Hillary that I can't even read it. However, if they see one negative or hateful thing written about Obama on this thread they flip out and will not acknowledge the pages of hateful things written about Hillary on their threads. To them it’s not the same.

Oh, and since I’m actually posting again.. I guess that I’ll say some other things that I’ve been thinking while I’m posting:

I do agree that Obama gave Hillary the finger. That’s exactly what high school kids do when they have to get up in front of a class and want to be ‘funny’. If Obama was a high school kid standing up in front of a high school class to give a speech; I’d laugh and shake my head. But he’s not a high school kid – he’s an educated adult running for POTS and that act was childish. I cannot respect that man – he’s proven to me over and over that he does not have strength or character to run a country… at least not at this point in his life. If he does get the Dem nod then I will NOT be voting for him. I could not respect myself if I voted for someone that I did not have any respect for.

And yes, if I feel that McCain is the better candidate over Obama to run this country, I will vote for McCain. After all.. I was raised Republican and have voted Republican before. That does NOT mean that I believe that McCain will make a good president – that means that if I feel that McCain is a better choice over Obama then I will vote for McCain and right now my opinion of Obama has become very low.

FYI, since I wouldn't know you if I tripped over you, I find you're very free with your opinions about someone you know nothing about. :rolleyes:
 
The OS have a brought a new name to the boards for George Stephanopoulos ......well at least one has brought it to the boards :teeth: . Lets watch to see how it grows :rotfl:

Can i just say.....that is very grown up of them to think of such a name to call someone that hurt Obamas and there wittle feelings :lmao:

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FYI, since I wouldn't know you if I tripped over you, I find you're very free with your opinions about someone you know nothing about. :rolleyes:

Well, I think it’s a fair statement to say that everyone’s free with their opinions (right or wrong) on the CB – especially the political threads. I’m just tired and frustrated with the hypocrisy that I see displayed over and over again.

I may have gone off a bit on a tangent than what you and DISUNIC were speaking about but I still maintain that I’ve observed a lot (not all) of Obama supporters getting upset and making statements that were quite hypocritical.
 
DISUNC, it's pointless to point out to an Obama supporter that they are hypocrites. The Obama thread is so chocked full of hate, mudslinging, and wrongful accusations towards Hillary that I can't even read it. However, if they see one negative or hateful thing written about Obama on this thread they flip out and will not acknowledge the pages of hateful things written about Hillary on their threads. To them it’s not the same.

Oh, and since I’m actually posting again.. I guess that I’ll say some other things that I’ve been thinking while I’m posting:

I do agree that Obama gave Hillary the finger. That’s exactly what high school kids do when they have to get up in front of a class and want to be ‘funny’. If Obama was a high school kid standing up in front of a high school class to give a speech; I’d laugh and shake my head. But he’s not a high school kid – he’s an educated adult running for POTS and that act was childish. I cannot respect that man – he’s proven to me over and over that he does not have strength or character to run a country… at least not at this point in his life. If he does get the Dem nod then I will NOT be voting for him. I could not respect myself if I voted for someone that I did not have any respect for.

And yes, if I feel that McCain is the better candidate over Obama to run this country, I will vote for McCain. After all.. I was raised Republican and have voted Republican before. That does NOT mean that I believe that McCain will make a good president – that means that if I feel that McCain is a better choice over Obama then I will vote for McCain and right now my opinion of Obama has become very low.

:worship: Except for the McCain part!:lmao: He hasnt even been a blip in my head yet!:confused:
However, one of my fears is that if Obama becomes President we make harken back to the "Good ole days of the W Admin"!!!!:scared1: :scared1:
I really dont believe Obama is anywhere near qualified to be Pres.

And, I want to add… all of this discrimination against Hillary has made me respect the woman even more..

She does handle all the muck like a true champ!

A co-worker was telling me about a show (?) that Obama and Hillary were on the other day… my co-worker said the name of the program but I didn’t understand which program she was speaking of. (I will assume that someone on here knows what I’m talking about.)

A female was the host (moderator?) and they had Hillary out first to answer questions. My co-worker said that the host was condescending and would ask Hillary a question and then say things like ‘Why don’t we go to commercial and let you think about your answer’ despite the fact that Hillary has proven numerous times in numerous debates (haven’t there been 21 debates now?) that she can think on her feet as they always make her go first in debates.

My co-worker also stated that the audience must have been full of Obama supporters as when she came out there wasn’t really any cheering or serious acknowledgement from the audience but when it was Obama’s turn to come out the host made Hillary stay on stage and watch the wild cheering and applause the audience gave to Obama (which she didn’t receive) and then she was dismissed. Knowing Hillary, she stood there with a polite and gracious smile on her face despite that it was a slap in her face.

Hillary shows serious strength and character by her reactions and handling of the media’s bias and how many unfair hands she’s been dealt since Obama became the media’s ‘Golden Boy’. I can’t say the same for Obama … as the media is finally beginning to show more of his true colors he whines, complains and pulls childish stunts such as the middle finger scratching.

I think it was a CNN show, really not sure. But I wouldnt be suprised if it was Soledad Obrien hosting it! Whenever she mentions Clinton, she rolls her eyes, and when she mentions Obama....it is a rather orgasmic moment for her.

From Paul Krugman - noted liberal columnist
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:scared1: I'm young, voting for Hillary, AND I bake REALLY good cookies. That's it, we're all in trouble.

:scared1: THE END IS NEAR!!!!!!!

I remember being outraged about the whole "cookie baking" thing back in '92. I liked the fact that Hillary wasn't a Stepford wife, hosting White House teas. I liked that she was smart-I always thought she was smarter than Bill, frankly. I knew that she wasn't elitist for saying what she did, didn't all of you?

I know one woman who bakes cookies, My sister. And she really shouldnt do that!

I voted for Obama in the NJ primary, but it took me a good long time in that booth. I found it a real struggle because I truly believe that either one of them would make an excellent POTUS, and far better than McCain or any of the other candidates on the Republican ticket at the time. I remember thinking at the time that it was a truly sad thing that Hillary wasn't "ready" in 2004, because we might be living in a very different country if she had been. To me, it seems a shame to have two good choices in one year. I have an Obama shirt, sign and buttons and I have a Hillary shirt, sign and buttons-so I'm ready for whoever wins!!


My only issue with Hillary is that she tends to campaign negatively. She did it when running for Senate in NY and she's doing it now. However, I have seen that her campaign style does not have any carryover to the way she works.

It wasnt that hillary wasnt ready. She promised the people of NY to Fufill one complete term as Senator. Alsp she was very busy working on NY'ers 911 issues!

Now McCain's calling Obama names........

EZ shot! Soon McCain will be calling Hillary names

Well, I expect McCain to do that!
Its all part of the Vetting. Actually I think we can determine the character of all the candidates much better through the muck & mire. It shows their consistution.

Since when is calling someone "dishonest" name-calling? It's a lot better than Barack's "I'm a pretty darn good politician"!
Good point
 
[QUOTE="Got Disney";24572723]The OS have a brought a new name to the boards for George Stephanopoulos ......well at least one has brought it to the boards :teeth: . Lets watch to see how it grows :rotfl:

Can i just say.....that is very grown up of them to think of such a name to call someone that hurt Obamas and there wittle feelings :lmao:

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More of a reason to vote for Hillary!:thumbsup2

Obama a Elitist & a crybaby! 2 things I despise the most.
 
A Republican Columnist's Take on Obama:


Op-Ed Columnist
How Obama Fell to Earth


By DAVID BROOKS
Published: April 18, 2008

Back in Iowa, Barack Obama promised to be something new — an unconventional leader who would confront unpleasant truths, embrace novel policies and unify the country. If he had knocked Hillary Clinton out in New Hampshire and entered general-election mode early, this enormously thoughtful man would have become that.
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But he did not knock her out, and the aura around Obama has changed. Furiously courting Democratic primary voters and apparently exhausted, Obama has emerged as a more conventional politician and a more orthodox liberal.

He sprinkled his debate performance Wednesday night with the sorts of fibs, evasions and hypocrisies that are the stuff of conventional politics. He claimed falsely that his handwriting wasn’t on a questionnaire about gun control. He claimed that he had never attacked Clinton for her exaggerations about the Tuzla airport, though his campaign was all over it. Obama piously condemned the practice of lifting other candidates’ words out of context, but he has been doing exactly the same thing to John McCain, especially over his 100 years in Iraq comment.

Obama also made a pair of grand and cynical promises that are the sign of someone who is thinking more about campaigning than governing.

He made a sweeping read-my-lips pledge never to raise taxes on anybody making less than $200,000 to $250,000 a year. That will make it impossible to address entitlement reform any time in an Obama presidency. It will also make it much harder to afford the vast array of middle-class tax breaks, health care reforms and energy policy Manhattan Projects that he promises to deliver.

Then he made an iron vow to get American troops out of Iraq within 16 months. Neither Obama nor anyone else has any clue what the conditions will be like when the next president takes office. He could have responsibly said that he aims to bring the troops home but will make a judgment at the time. Instead, he rigidly locked himself into a policy that will not be fully implemented for another three years.

If Obama is elected, he will either go back on this pledge — in which case he would destroy his credibility — or he will risk genocide in the region and a viciously polarizing political war at home.

Then there are the cultural issues. Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos of ABC News are taking a lot of heat for spending so much time asking about Jeremiah Wright and the “bitter” comments. But the fact is that voters want a president who basically shares their values and life experiences. Fairly or not, they look at symbols like Michael Dukakis in a tank, John Kerry’s windsurfing or John Edwards’s haircut as clues about shared values.

When Obama began this ride, he seemed like a transcendent figure who could understand a wide variety of life experiences. But over the past months, things have happened that make him seem more like my old neighbors in Hyde Park in Chicago.

Some of us love Hyde Park for its diversity and quirkiness, as there are those who love Cambridge and Berkeley. But it is among the more academic and liberal places around. When Obama goes to a church infused with James Cone-style liberation theology, when he makes ill-informed comments about working-class voters, when he bowls a 37 for crying out loud, voters are going to wonder if he’s one of them. Obama has to address those doubts, and he has done so poorly up to now.

It was inevitable that the period of “Yes We Can!” deification would come to an end. It was not inevitable that Obama would now look so vulnerable. He’ll win the nomination, but in a matchup against John McCain, he is behind in Florida, Missouri and Ohio, and merely tied in must-win states like Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey and Pennsylvania. A generic Democrat now beats a generic Republican by 13 points, but Obama is trailing his own party. One in five Democrats say they would vote for McCain over Obama.

General election voters are different from primary voters. Among them, Obama is lagging among seniors and men. Instead of winning over white high school-educated voters who are tired of Bush and conventional politics, he does worse than previous nominees. John Judis and Ruy Teixeira have estimated a Democrat has to win 45 percent of such voters to take the White House. I’ve asked several of the most skillful Democratic politicians over the past few weeks, and they all think that’s going to be hard.

A few months ago, Obama was riding his talents. Clinton has ground him down, and we are now facing an interesting phenomenon. Republicans have long assumed they would lose because of the economy and the sad state of their party. Now, Democrats are deeply worried their nominee will lose in November.

Welcome to 2008. Everybody’s miserable.

This comment "Now, Democrats are deeply worried their nominee will lose in November" - should really read - some democrats are deeply worried - not all......
 
Now some analysis from Eleanor Clift - a democrat, who pretty much comes to the same conclusion as David Brooks, the Republican......

http://www.newsweek.com/id/132669

<snip>......Unless Hillary can surprise us once again, repeating the triumph she had in Ohio when Pennsylvanians go to the polls, Rove is likely to have Obama to kick around. The Philadelphia debate didn't do anything to help either candidate, and quite possibly hurt them both, but we are slowly evolving toward a result that seems increasingly inevitable: Obama as a Democratic nominee whose vulnerabilities boost chances of a Republican victory in the fall.
 
Hello fellow Hillary supporters! I am back from my respite of this and other boards and feeling refreshed. Anyone miss me? :lmao:

Anyway - I posted a new political thread. Check it out.

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1796149

Think everyone will be able to stick to talking about their own candidate only? I am thinking not and have not had any takers yet.

Added my 2 cents...which is now worth -3.26 cents, so in essence I owe ya!:eek:
 
There is a national poll out there stating that Obama has +20 points on Hillary. And of course the media is picking it up.

What is funny is when you read the fine print they asked "Who would you vote for Clinton or Obama"...amoung 536 Democrats & 536 "Democrat leaners"

:lmao: WTH is a "Democrat Leaner"????????????????????:confused3
 
The Colbert Report was cut Thursday night. I loved Hillary's role! She's a real trouper when it comes to humor about herself. John Edwards was pretty funny too.
 
Angelou Puts Prose to Hillary Clinton

Clinton was posed with an awkward comment from an audience member as she took questions Friday evening in Winston Salem, N.C. A woman stood up and said, “Hillary, I love you. I always have and I always will. I felt so sorry for you when Bill had his affair.”

The audience reacted with noise and chatter, while Clinton reached for her glass of water and took a big gulp. “I believe now that the best way to overcome it is to become president,” she said.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Angelou read a tribute at the conclusion of the rally that she had written for Clinton and said she wanted Clinton to think about this when the polls or people say one thing or another about her and ask her why she doesn’t give up. Angelou read, “You may write me down in history with your bitter twisted lies, you may tread me in the very dirt but still like dust, I’ll rise. This is not the first time you have seen Hillary Clinton seemingly at her wit’s end. But she is always risen, always risen. Don’t forget she has much to the dismay of her adversaries and to the delight of her friends risen.” Clinton gave Angelou a big hug after the prose and the meeting.

:goodvibes

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/angelou-puts-pr.html
 
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