Hillary Supporters unite....no bashing please! only smiles

[LuvDuke]

Unfortunately I may have to make that decision in November, which is a shame all around.

Last election I voted for Kerry even though I did not particularly like him. I found him unexciting and uninspiring, but I thought he would make a competent president. I am almost sure at this point that Obama (while I will give him that he is brilliant and inspirational) will be a lousy president who will accomplish nothing.

At least McCain has shown that he can work with people across the aisle.

Yes it is a conundrum for me and one I feel will not be decided 'till November (unless Hillary gets the nod).

If you're happy with 4-8 years of the same, by all means vote accordingly.

 

[punkin]

Which leaves one to ponder this question:

Why does the media seem so biased toward Obama...is it because they think he will win, or because they believe he won't?

Conspiracy theories aside, I think they are biased for him because they just fit squarely within his preferred demographic, besides, he is really good at delivering those lovely soundbites.

 

[punkin]

If you're happy with 4-8 years of the same, by all means vote accordingly.

I will vote my conscience as always. Thank You.

 

[BelleBoo&AmisMum]

We just got our first Starbucks (within 50 miles) recently!!!!
I like their Carmel Machalattas (???SP) Gimme WAWA coffee anyday!

All I know about wine is Red with meat, White with fish, ROSE with surf & turf! ...and its not proper to drink it while still in the paper bag , even with your pinky finger up!

Gimme Gin & Tonics or LI Ice Teas anyday!

You just got your first one?!? In our small town of 5,000 or less - depends on if you count the cows or not, we have two! They are across the street from each other, but one is in the grocery store, you know can't shop for produce without caffeine. The other has the first drive-thru in town, ever.

I know diddly poop about wine, which I'm sure is against some laws for my husband, you know French married to a wine idiot. Then he's northern French and they're beer drinkers and I don't like beer either. Yeah, he screwed up big time.

 

[chobie]

Which leaves one to ponder this question:

Why does the media seem so biased toward Obama...is it because they think he will win, or because they believe he won't?

I don't see the bias. They harp on every word he says that may be percieved wrong. The real media darling is McCain IMO.

 

[Took]

Conspiracy theories aside, I think they are biased for him because they just fit squarely within his preferred demographic, besides, he is really good at delivering those lovely soundbites.

I have to admit that I don't find the media biased toward Obama or Hillary. I find them biased toward (or, at least, not against) McCain. He gets virtually NO bad press even though, earlier in the primaries, many Reps said he was "unstable" and "dangerous." I'm shocked that more folks aren't pointing this out.

 

[Fitswimmer]

I don't see the bias. They harp on every word he says that may be percieved wrong. The real media darling is McCain IMO.

McCain is getting a complete pass. He has said some monumentally stupid things and nobody has gone after him at all.

I care more about the fact that McCain can't identify the major players in Iraq than I do about Obama's "bitter" comment or Hillary's "sniper".

 

[JARNJ3]

Which leaves one to ponder this question:

Why does the media seem so biased toward Obama...is it because they think he will win, or because they believe he won't?

I think originally it was because he was the underdog - but new and exciting. I think those speeches, were church-like in that he inspired those in the room - and most importantly - his name isn't Clinton.

I don't think the current media coverage is looking toward the general - right now - its all about upsetting the established candidate.

It will be interesting if its McCain v Obama - as journalists supported both these candidates.......

What will also be interesting is that the conservative media will concentrate on taking Obama down - as opposed to building McCain up. My fear is (after watching what they did to Kerry) that can and will destroy Obama - leaving only those true blue states voting for him, and thus handing the election to McCain.

 

[JARNJ3]

McCain is getting a complete pass. He has said some monumentally stupid things and nobody has gone after him at all.

I care more about the fact that McCain can't identify the major players in Iraq than I do about Obama's "bitter" comment or Hillary's "sniper".

Totally agree. McCain will continue to get passes - Obama or Hillary will need to prove themselves all over again after this primary season passes.

McCain has been around forever - and has the experience edge......

 

[Honu]

I have to admit that I don't find the media biased toward Obama or Hillary. I find them biased toward (or, at least, not against) McCain. He gets virtually NO bad press even though, earlier in the primaries, many Reps said he was "unstable" and "dangerous." I'm shocked that more folks aren't pointing this out.

Oh, without a doubt. He's basically running an unopposed campaign at this point.

 

[punkin]

McCain is not a media darling, he is just boring right now. They will focus more on him as soon as the Democratic contender is decided. Of course by that time, he will have been able to consolidate most of his base leaving him particularly strong against either Hillary or Obama (whoever it is).

 

[Fitswimmer]

I think originally it was because he was the underdog - but new and exciting. I think those speeches, were church-like in that he inspired those in the room - and most importantly - his name isn't Clinton.

I don't think the current media coverage is looking toward the general - right now - its all about upsetting the established candidate.

It will be interesting if its McCain v Obama - as journalists supported both these candidates.......

What will also be interesting is that the conservative media will concentrate on taking Obama down - as opposed to building McCain up. My fear is (after watching what they did to Kerry) that can and will destroy Obama - leaving only those true blue states voting for him, and thus handing the election to McCain.

It's pretty easy to predict how they're going to go after either of them.

With Obama, they're going to use Rev. Wright and elitism.

With Hillary-they're going to use all the old arguments about universal health care=socialism, they're going to jump on the "sniper" comment and all the problems she's had with the campaign. They're also going to use all the nice things she said about McCain-she's going to regret those statements about him if she wins the nomination.

 

[punkin]

It's pretty easy to predict how they're going to go after either of them.

With Obama, they're going to use Rev. Wright and elitism. out of touch w/ American mainstream is the big one IMO, everything else is just support for that. Also his inexperience. The man has done absolutely nothing of note while in the Senate and they will contrast him with elder-statesman McCain. Finally (and there has not been enough coverage of this yet, McCain's the finance reform guy and Obama is rolling in it, going back on his promises of just a few months ago.

With Hillary-they're going to use all the old arguments about universal health care=socialism, they're going to jump on the "sniper" comment and all the problems she's had with the campaign. They're also going to use all the nice things she said about McCain-she's going to regret those statements about him if she wins the nomination.

They will try to use Bill's record against her, but that is iffy. Bill's not running. Everything else I agree with.

 

["Got Disney"]

FYI, most Obama supporters don't see the halo either. While I never truly liked Hillary Clinton going back to the 1992 campaign, I believe she would make a fine president.

However, I don't think the country will get the needed changes under a Hillary Clinton administration. That's why I'm rolling the dice with Obama. Not because he's got a halo. Not because I put him on a pedastal. Not because he can put over a pretty phrase. And, frankly, no one in their right mind has called me politically naive.

I'm supporting Obama because I believe there are deep institutional problems in this country and I believe there's a better chance of solving those problems with Obama. I believe that's why most of us are supporting him.

That is how I feel about Hillary vs. Obama....I don't think Obama will make the worst Pres. in the History of POTUS...Carter has that all sewn up. But would love for him to have 4 more years behind his belt

The scariest times of all would be if John McCain gets in the WH. It'll be 4-8 more years of "no strings free trade", no healthcare reform, no Pentagon reform, etc.

That prospect should scare the hell out of any thinking person.

I think that I don't feel that bad about McCain...but he is the worse of the 3 evils. Will see more as the general comes forth. He is more liberal than Bush and don't feel like he is under Bushes ties. I Am not a fan of BUSH!!!! and he will take the place of Carter..in the worst Pres ever! Will vote for Obama way over McCain...the only way I would vote for MCcain is if Obama did something so bad that I could not.

Okay, so one or two would be okay.

Seriously, all of this campaign stuff makes my head hurt. I really will be glad when all of this is over and we have our first woman president. However, that's not why I'll vote for Hillary, but it is a plus for this Kentucky living, white woman!

Same here...more than that she is a woman but we have had men running this world forever. woman think differently. Look at Margaret Thatcher...that is/was a woman who could get things done

No, I never said the SD's were going to "swoop in and make a big move". If you know differently, now would be a good time to show what you know.

And get with the program: Quite a while ago, I said I would sew my nostrils shut to vote for Hillary Clinton if the choice was between her and McCain. I even offered to sew WVrevy's nostrils shut so he could do the same.

**Edited to add*

Yes, I did say that about Obama and Clinton. That was right after the Rev. Wright flap and I didn't see how Obama was going to handle it.

Hard to believe, but I was wrong.

I wish you luck with that with Wvrevy...I can picture you both know at the polls....holding his nose shut ....start lifting weights because he will be a tough fight

 

[DISUNC]

I have to admit that I don't find the media biased toward Obama or Hillary. I find them biased toward (or, at least, not against) McCain. He gets virtually NO bad press even though, earlier in the primaries, many Reps said he was "unstable" and "dangerous." I'm shocked that more folks aren't pointing this out.

They do...its just not the LEAD STORY! McCain just aint 'sexy" at this stage of the primaries.

When he went on his tour overseas recently to promote his campaign , ON THE PUBLICS DIME, they did many stories about this. But again these stories are buried.

 

[JARNJ3]

This is starting to get really sad.......

No more talking about the issues .......... Both sides are now into personal attacks. One side of the party is bound to be alienated - stay at home and not vote - or vote for the other side......

Obama mocks Clinton 'throwing back a shot and a beer'
Posted: 12:25 PM ET
CNN


PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania (CNN) — Barack Obama furthered his recent criticisms of Hillary Clinton Monday by mocking the fact that she recently "threw back a shot and a beer" in front of the media.

After first saying too many candidates are only giving voters "rhetoric," the Illinois senator said, "They'll promise you anything. They'll even give you a long list of proposals. They'll even come around with TV crews in tow and throw back a shot and a beer."

The shot came Saturday at Bronko’s Restaurant in Crown Point, Indiana. With the national media in tow, Clinton made a stop there to drink a beer and speak with voters. After ordering her beer the bartender asked, “You want a shot with that Hillary?” After some deliberation, Clinton settled on a shot of Crown Royal, a Canadian whiskey.

But Obama is not totally in the clear himself when it comes to photo-ops at bars. The White House hopeful nursed a beer in front of cameras with Pennsylvania senator Bob Casey at a sports bar during his Pennsylvania bus tour on March 28. He has since mentioned that moment of drinking in front of audiences on the trail in the Keystone State.

Responding to Obama's comments, Clinton spokesman Phil Singer said, "With all due respect, this is the same politician who spent six days posing for clichéd camera shots that included bowling gutterballs, walking around a sports bar, feeding a baby cow, and buying a ham at the Philly market (albeit one that cost $99.99 a pound). Sen. Obama's speeches won’t hide his condescending views of Americans living in small towns.”

Clinton has been hitting Obama hard over his recent comments saying decades of lost jobs and unfulfilled promises from Washington have left some Pennsylvanians "bitter" and clinging "to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

On Sunday, Clinton called the comments "elitist, out of touch and frankly, patronizing," and added, "You know, the Democratic Party, to be very blunt about it, has been viewed as a party that didn't understand and respect the values and the way of life of so many of our fellow Americans."

 

[punkin]

This is starting to get really sad.......

No more talking about the issues .......... Both sides are now into personal attacks. One side of the party is bound to be alienated - stay at home and not vote - or vote for the other side......

This is not as bad as the debate (was it South Carolina?) where the two of them looked like children at a playground fight.

 

["Got Disney"]

McCain is getting a complete pass. He has said some monumentally stupid things and nobody has gone after him at all.

I care more about the fact that McCain can't identify the major players in Iraq than I do about Obama's "bitter" comment or Hillary's "sniper".

McCain has a couple of issues i agree with like the problem with the forclosures but very few indeed. I have followed his campaign but he does not seem to have any excitement in him, or passion. His economy experience scares me and his comment on Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran

I need and want to here more from him so to know if I will need to start saving money under my mattress or not. I want to here more of his strengths besides war.

I want to know about all 3 of them because one will be our next Pres.

I look at it this way...anyone is better than Bush....even Carter

 

[DISUNC]

Which leaves one to ponder this question:

Why does the media seem so biased toward Obama...is it because they think he will win, or because they believe he won't?

They beieve he will be good for THEIR business. Their thoughts are he will sell papers and get people to watch their News programs.
The corporate owned media is LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR OWN FINANCIAL INTERESTS!

"The faster & higher one rises, the harder and messier they fall" is the presses motto....and those kinda stories MAKE $$$$$$$$

For hundreds of years the Press as been setting people up just to watch them fall.

 

[JARNJ3]

This is not as bad as the debate (was it South Carolina?) where the two of them looked like children at a playground fight.

True - but do you see how most no one remembers that exchange? Yesterday's news!