Hillary supporters Unit #3 ..yes we are still here!

I am so disgusted right now I could just spit!


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:wave2: Clintonistas & Clintonistos!

I am just amazed at the ferocity, hate & viciousness of certain posters towards others who post things!:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:
And I am so tired of the "KILL the Messenger, not the message" mentality from many BO supporters.:sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2:
There is a whole " everybody is lying and only he tells the truth" crappolla out there in Internet land. It is too weird for even me!:confused3
 
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:wave2: Clintonistas & Clintonistos!

I am just amazed at the ferocity, hate & viciousness of certain posters towards others who post things!:scared1: :scared1: :scared1:
And I am so tired of the "KILL the Messenger, not the message" mentality from many BO supporters.:sad2: :sad2: :sad2: :sad2:
There is a whole " everybody is lying and only he tells the truth" crappolla out there in Internet land. It is too weird for even me!:confused3

Yes it is very weird....I just don't get it. I was listening to Obama tonight saying about Palin that how can you be for something than change your mind :confused3 ummmmmmm does he forget that has been his MO in addition to being against something than for it....than he adds what do they think we are stupid or something. :sad2:

I decided that I don't like either of these candidates and I want a do overpopcorn::
 
Hi Guys!

Had to take a break. The frustration was getting to be too much for me.

As if it wasn't hard enough to bear the Hillary bash from so many OS, now the bash is coming from so many Palin supporters.


Why the hatred towards Hillary from ALL sides? :headache:

To think that for all this years I looked forward so much, so much to this election cycle. How did it become this horror?

I feel completely discouraged with everything :sad2:
 

Hi Guys!

Had to take a break. The frustration was getting to be too much for me.

As if it wasn't hard enough to bear the Hillary bash from so many OS, now the bash is coming from so many Palin supporters.


Why the hatred towards Hillary from ALL sides? :headache:

To think that for all this years I looked forward so much, so much to this election cycle. How did it become this horror?

I feel completely discouraged with everything :sad2:

I just saw a poster on another thread claim that Bill and Hillary are "literally" the Antichrist. What can you do with people like that? :confused3
 
I just saw a poster on another thread claim that Bill and Hillary are "literally" the Antichrist. What can you do with people like that? :confused3

It does baffle me how Bill and Hillary keep getting dragged back into this when they are no longer part of it (except for Hillary having to once again campaign for Obama. Seriously, if this were reversed and Hillary was the nominee and for some reason or another Obama wasn't her VP - I can bet you a million bucks we wouldn't be hearing from him whatsoever right now. He'd be a sore loser that wouldn't be supporting Hillary at all.)

But, everyone is accustomed to blaming the Clintons for everything - including the OS - that I think it's just natural to fall back into that blame when things aren't going as expected.

Honestly, a part of me is hoping that Hillary decides that she doesn’t want to run for election in 2012 so she doesn’t have that hanging over her head and then she could just step up, tell everyone to shove it (especially Dean and Obama) and then go and take a much needed vacation from this insanity.
 
Wait, never mind... I was a little off.

I thought that Palin had just requested to have books banned (as in, specific books in mind) She didn't.

Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so. According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it.
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

Apparently she only inquired to find out what extent of authority she had. There was never a list or a book in mind, she just made an inquiry to see if she had that authority should she be requested to have a book banned.
 
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It does baffle me how Bill and Hillary keep getting dragged back into this when they are no longer part of it (except for Hillary having to once again campaign for Obama. Seriously, if this were reversed and Hillary was the nominee and for some reason or another Obama wasn't her VP - I can bet you a million bucks we wouldn't be hearing from him whatsoever right now. He'd be a sore loser that wouldn't be supporting Hillary at all.)

Well, what exactly would his support mean to Hillary anyway? Outside of a concession speech, which he would deliver and it would be very good (his speeches usually are), his inexperience and inability to connect with people in small rooms, as well as his stammering delivery whenever he is forced to go unscripted would not have helped Hillary in a general election.

Additionally, he would still have been the democratic heir apparent and I am 99.9% sure Hillary would have put him on the ballot as VP, thus making her bid for president unstoppable. The fact that Obama dissed her is coming back to bite him in the bum. I like Joe Biden, but Obama's failure to pick Hillary as VP may just cost him this election.
 
Additionally, he would still have been the democratic heir apparent and I am 99.9% sure Hillary would have put him on the ballot as VP, thus making her bid for president unstoppable. The fact that Obama dissed her is coming back to bite him in the bum. I like Joe Biden, but Obama's failure to pick Hillary as VP may just cost him this election.
It's not looking real good right now is it? I think that the true trend will become apparent in the next few weeks once we get past the convention bump but I really thought that Obama would be miles ahead by now. :confused:
 
It's not looking real good right now is it? I think that the true trend will become apparent in the next few weeks once we get past the convention bump but I really thought that Obama would be miles ahead by now. :confused:

I do think it is a real trend. After all, Obama did not even get a significant bump from the convention. It is still anybody's race, of course, but like you said Obama should be miles ahead in a year when everybody hates Republicans and he is barely keeping up.

I do not think he is a viable candidate to many middle of the road independents. They will go for McCain despite his pick of Palin. Those are the people Hillary was able to bring in and Obama cannot reach.
 
I do think it is a real trend. After all, Obama did not even get a significant bump from the convention. It is still anybody's race, of course, but like you said Obama should be miles ahead in a year when everybody hates Republicans and he is barely keeping up.

I do not think he is a viable candidate to many middle of the road independents. They will go for McCain despite his pick of Palin. Those are the people Hillary was able to bring in and Obama cannot reach.

Yep, it was the Dems year to lose the election and Obama seems to be doing good with that.

I agree Hillary can reach those independent voters that Obama can't touch.

Like I have always said I am not Palin's biggest fan, or McCain's for that matter, but I will vote for McCain (even with Palin) before I would vote for Obama.

And Dolce27 Thank you so much for that info on Palin. I am so sick and tired of all the crap people are saying about her. It's fine if you don't like her politics, but jeez some of the "stories" are just :scared1: :mad: :headache:

I thought you guys might like this, on our local news channel they had an expert face reader. He was reading both McCain and Obama's faces during their speeches. This expert reader said Obama has an elitist about him. Duh...tell me something I don't know ;)

I will see if I can dig up the news article. It was kind of fun to listen too.
 
And Dolce27 Thank you so much for that info on Palin. I am so sick and tired of all the crap people are saying about her. It's fine if you don't like her politics, but jeez some of the "stories" are just :scared1: :mad: :headache:

It looks like the crazy stories are in full force this election :headache:

I thought you guys might like this, on our local news channel they had an expert face reader. He was reading both McCain and Obama's faces during their speeches. This expert reader said Obama has an elitist about him. Duh...tell me something I don't know ;)

That's silly. It sounds kind of like phrenology, and what is a "face reader" anyway.

I will see if I can dig up the news article. It was kind of fun to listen too.

I did like McCain's demeanor during his speech. The man just looks honest (doesn't mean he is). Palin looked very gung ho and exited (and exciting). I did not watch Obama's speech, so I can't tell you if I thought he looked "elitist."
 
Here's that article I was talking about. Not really much but I just thought it was funny about Obama and his elitist. It is SOOOO true! :snooty:



What did Obama, McCain's faces reveal in speeches?

When they gave their convention speeches did Barack Obama and John McCain really mean what they said? A Twin Cities man believes the answer can be found on their faces, not in their words.

Their words are chosen carefully. Every phrase is massaged until it is just right. But even the best words are wasted if the audience doesn't believe the speaker means it.

Dan Hill is an expert in what he calls "facial coding", analyzing facial expressions to reveal a person's true emotions.

"You're going see two version of Obama," said Hill. He said at the very beginning of Obama's speech he reinforced the charge he's an elitist.

"It's almost like he's literally looking down his nose at the world," said Hill. "Then he oscillates. He also brings his head down and he throws a smile out there and he has a beautiful, true smile."

However, Hill said that true smile didn't show at one key moment.

"He doesn't have the great, true smile when he makes the acceptance 'with humility,'" said Hill. "He's got a little bit of concern in his face. He's leaning back. His head's tilted away."

Hill said John McCain's truest smile came when he said how proud he was to have introduced the next Vice President to the country.

"He's got the sparkle in the eye and the reason he's got that is when you're really happy, the muscle around the eye relaxes," said Hill.

However, Hill said McCain's smile often seemed forced, coming and going too fast and sometimes showing contradiction.


"It's still the characteristic tension around the lower mouth that makes you think he just can't quite let it go," said Hill. "You really felt like his team had told him before he went on the air, now don't forget to smile. And he would do it on cue, but it didn't feel right."

Hill told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS of all the speeches at both conventions Governor Sarah Palin's surprised him the most. He said he expected her to appear nervous.
 
I did like McCain's demeanor during his speech. The man just looks honest (doesn't mean he is). Palin looked very gung ho and exited (and exciting). I did not watch Obama's speech, so I can't tell you if I thought he looked "elitist."

I don't know what a "face reader" is :confused3 but it was a good fluff article.


Sometimes fluff is better then all the other crap going on ;)
 
I want to say:

I’m now proudly voting for McCain/Palin. The Democratic supporters and leaders have hit all time new lows. I’m beyond disgusted from what I’m witnessing. Putting Palin’s son Trig up on Ebay is the last of it. There’s nothing funny whatsoever about that. It’s just vile.

The only thing that I can see Obama has got going for him as a liberal is his stance on abortion. So far voting to let aborted babies born alive die in linen closets seems to be the only consistent thing the man has done. Everything else he changes on a whim. I don’t know how many flip-flops he’s had on the Iraq war and the surge. He’s for some drilling – but I bet you anything if it becomes in his best interest he’ll drill in Alaska too. He voted for FSA so he can continue to spy on you when he’s President. He voted for Bush’s faith base stuff… uh, what’s this about wanting separation of church and state? He swears that he won’t raise your taxes but instead cut them (although I heard he didn’t really want to answer a lot about that during an interview the other day) and at the exact same time expand the government and implement all of these new government funded programs. Where’s this money coming from? And don’t say Iraq. He’ll be taking the Iraq money and throwing it back into Afghanistan when he rebuilds up the troops over there. Then when Iraq falls apart, because he withdrew irresponsibly, he’ll be spending even more money to go back into Iraq to clean up that mess.

Do we even need to go on about his despicable character? We all witnessed first hand how underhanded he and his campaign can be in their hate towards an opponent. Don’t think that his campaign isn’t behind a lot of the fueling of the insane and unfounded attacks currently on Palin. Obama says he’s not running against Palin, but McCain, yet he, himself, keeps bringing up Palin and dissing her. Last week-end the campaign IP addresses were traced back for being some of the Palin smear sights and a couple of months ago Obama campaign IP addresses were captured as ones taking down anti-Obama websites (and someone was worried about Palin asking if it was in her power to have a book banned should a request of her be made for it? Obama’s actually proven to suppress speech. I’ve reported before what his campaign has been doing to try to suppress the Annenberg documents along with his connection to Ayers)

Sadly, he even disrespected every liberal woman on that one issue you can depend upon him for, and that I mentioned above: pro-choice. Apparently one of his staffers told Chuck Todd that pro-choice was Obama’s “ace card”. The Obama campaign didn’t care about how sexist the primaries were ran or how many women were “offended” from it. They knew all those women they offended would come crawling back because of Roe vs. Wade.

This post isn’t directed to anyone in particular… just a rant. I just shake my head and honestly don’t understand how someone thinks voting for Obama is going to improve this country.

Oh, and finding out last night that Obama and Biden both voted against reallocating the funding from an existing bill to build a new bridge after Hurricane Katrina was priceless. Why? Because they were voting against helping out with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in favor of allowing to the money to go to its original purpose: The Bridge to Nowhere that Palin is getting so much flack over. Biden and Obama both supported that bill!
 
The Democratic supporters and leaders have hit all time new lows. I’m beyond disgusted from what I’m witnessing. Putting Palin’s son Trig up on Ebay is the last of it. There’s nothing funny whatsoever about that. It’s just vile.

What happened? What did I miss? :confused3
 
It's not looking real good right now is it? I think that the true trend will become apparent in the next few weeks once we get past the convention bump but I really thought that Obama would be miles ahead by now. :confused:

Obama is an arrogant idiot. I convinced that had he chosen Hillary as VP Palin wouldn be in the running.

This makes me so so mad at him!!!! Because -I'll just say it- I despise, despise, DESPISE Palin! I don't care what gossip about her is true or not, I find most of her "values" and platform repulsive. Thanks to her I now find impossible to support McCain.

She's also underqualified to be so close to the presidency. Her pick was a slap to countless of Republican women who had much, much more experience and qualifications for the position, but -as usual- were overlooked in favor of the younger, prettier, more glamorous "girl"

Obama was afraid of having the spolight taken away from him, afraid of Hillary overshadowing him (just like it has happened with Palin). I used to think he would rather lose than share the ticket with her, but now I believe he really thought he didn't need her. His "charisma" and "charm" and would be enough to win by a landslide. His arrogant and stupid decision may cost him dearly.

I read he is having lunch with B. Clinton this week. Bet you a Mickey bar he wouldn't be doing this if he was ahead.
 
I want to say:

I’m now proudly voting for McCain/Palin. The Democratic supporters and leaders have hit all time new lows. I’m beyond disgusted from what I’m witnessing. Putting Palin’s son Trig up on Ebay is the last of it. There’s nothing funny whatsoever about that. It’s just vile.

The only thing that I can see Obama has got going for him as a liberal is his stance on abortion. So far voting to let aborted babies born alive die in linen closets seems to be the only consistent thing the man has done. Everything else he changes on a whim. I don’t know how many flip-flops he’s had on the Iraq war and the surge. He’s for some drilling – but I bet you anything if it becomes in his best interest he’ll drill in Alaska too. He voted for FSA so he can continue to spy on you when he’s President. He voted for Bush’s faith base stuff… uh, what’s this about wanting separation of church and state? He swears that he won’t raise your taxes but instead cut them (although I heard he didn’t really want to answer a lot about that during an interview the other day) and at the exact same time expand the government and implement all of these new government funded programs. Where’s this money coming from? And don’t say Iraq. He’ll be taking the Iraq money and throwing it back into Afghanistan when he rebuilds up the troops over there. Then when Iraq falls apart, because he withdrew irresponsibly, he’ll be spending even more money to go back into Iraq to clean up that mess.

Do we even need to go on about his despicable character? We all witnessed first hand how underhanded he and his campaign can be in their hate towards an opponent. Don’t think that his campaign isn’t behind a lot of the fueling of the insane and unfounded attacks currently on Palin. Obama says he’s not running against Palin, but McCain, yet he, himself, keeps bringing up Palin and dissing her. Last week-end the campaign IP addresses were traced back for being some of the Palin smear sights and a couple of months ago Obama campaign IP addresses were captured as ones taking down anti-Obama websites (and someone was worried about Palin asking if it was in her power to have a book banned should a request of her be made for it? Obama’s actually proven to suppress speech. I’ve reported before what his campaign has been doing to try to suppress the Annenberg documents along with his connection to Ayers)

Sadly, he even disrespected every liberal woman on that one issue you can depend upon him for, and that I mentioned above: pro-choice. Apparently one of his staffers told Chuck Todd that pro-choice was Obama’s “ace card”. The Obama campaign didn’t care about how sexist the primaries were ran or how many women were “offended” from it. They knew all those women they offended would come crawling back because of Roe vs. Wade.

This post isn’t directed to anyone in particular… just a rant. I just shake my head and honestly don’t understand how someone thinks voting for Obama is going to improve this country.

Oh, and finding out last night that Obama and Biden both voted against reallocating the funding from an existing bill to build a new bridge after Hurricane Katrina was priceless. Why? Because they were voting against helping out with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in favor of allowing to the money to go to its original purpose: The Bridge to Nowhere that Palin is getting so much flack over. Biden and Obama both supported that bill!

I agree with your post and it hit the nail on the head that I thought it deserved to bare repeating :thumbsup2

I can relate to everything you said
I shudder to think what an Obama presidency would bring :scared1:

BTW --- doesn't surprise me at all that Obama and Biden supported the Bridge to Nowhere bill....doesn't surprise me at all, yet OS and media seem to forgot that little piece of infomation :sad2:
 
I could care less who hates Sarah Palin… but just make certain you do your research first before believing the hype. She's a threat to the Obama campaign and they and the lib’s are doing everything they currently can to discredit her. Most of what I’m hearing about her are only ½ truths that are being twisted.

http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/

With all due respect Dolce27 I read this article on Pajamamedia and Charlie Martin is a self professed Palin fan. Now that doesn't mean he's all wrong or all right. But it would be just as ridiculous to take that list of "Palin Facts" at face value as it would be to take some liberal blogger at face value. Particularly when you see the lengths that many on the right have gone to dismiss Palin's flaws.

The only solution is the research each issue individually.

I still hate Obama with the fire of a thousand suns. I was willing to suffer through 4 years of McCain. But frankly his choice of Palin is setting my teeth on edge. She's a horrifying choice imo. Having her one melanoma cell from the presidency is unacceptable.
 

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