Hillary Clinton --- Is this true?

[peachgirl]

Originally posted by Kendra17


The quote Peachgirl made seems to make no sense. I think the story and picture are hilarious. Most of the military realize Hilary isn't really their friend--what better way to show that they know she's there for a photo-op? Peachgirl, most of your posts on these types of threads actually do deal with democrat-bashing--especially when it's in response to a Republican posing an honest intellectual question.

And Kendra, most of your posts expose a very extremist point of view....such as suggesting our country would be better off if we went to a single party system.

This thread started with an honest intellectual question???

what better way to show that they know she's there for a photo-op?

I'd think there would be much better ways than to use hand signals designed for use by prisoners of war. Besides, when in uniform, military personnel aren't supposed to "show" their political leanings.

 

[Grog]

So, the natural question, seems to me, is don't you have something positive to say about the candidate you support for President? Or, is he such an horrific excuse for a President that the only way to make him look good is to run down his opponent?

That can be said word for word about people on both sides of the aisle here on the DIS. I've seen the "political animals" on both sides start plenty of threads bashing the others candidate. Just because there isn't a Bush bashing thread on page one or two doesn't mean they aren't there. Personally, I'd like to see someone here start a thread about what's good about their candidate, instead of what's bad about the other, but I doubt my heart would stand the strain.

The Republicans here who complain about Bush bashing threads and the Democrats who complain about Kerry bashing threads need to back up and take a good look in the mirror.

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by katerkat
Hmm, I'll ask DH when he gets home. Only 15% of the Air Force, and (I think) 5% of the entire Armed Forces go through Survival School, so not many people would actually know. (I don't know if DH would/could confirm a hand signal, anyway. But I can always ask!)

Thank you!

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by peachgirl
Oh please, with your insulting signature line, every post you put up is democratic bashing.

Have you ever read John 8:7? May I suggest you read it. Better yet, I'll post it, "So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her."

What makes my signature line any different from your avatar and countdown clock? If you notice I'm not directing my comments to one individual, like you --- mine are directed to the Democratic party If you have a problem with my signature line, I suggest you contact the moderators and complain. However, I believe it meets the requirments set forth by these boards. If not, I'm sure the moderators will kindly inform me.

Originally posted by peachgirl
Thanks but I think you need to at least be honest about what you're doing. The wide eyed innocent role doesn't fit you well.

Nope you're wrong. I'm the type of person that speaks my mind! I think you need to unbutton your top shirt button, take a deep breath and submit your apology to me. If you read the title of my post and the posting I was asking a sincere question. I made no bashing or any reference to any political party. As a matter of fact, others joined in and made jokes about using the snoops picture. The thread started to go downhill when you started to post your typical Republican bashing. Why was it necessary to do this? Do you get enjoyment bashing other people or political parties? Were you raised this way?

Originally posted by peachgirl
Take a look at the threads on this board. The vast majority are nothing but Kerry bashing threads. They're snippets of information taken from extremist websites and posted as fact, then discussed as though they are actually true. Just look at the responses to this thread, then tell me again that it's not an excuse to bash Kerry.

I have looked at all the threads on this board and have to say there is a minimal amount of political threads. However, it does pick up when one of the candidates says something foolish (BTW - there are more Kerry threads than Bush threads). But I'm confused ---- I posted a thread and tried to post a picture of Hillary Clinton. What the hell does this have to do with Kerry?

Originally posted by peachgirl
So, the natural question, seems to me, is don't you have something positive to say about the candidate you support for President? Or, is he such an horrific excuse for a President that the only way to make him look good is to run down his opponent? [/B]

I didn't say anything about Kerry, the article/picture was about Hillary Clinton. I think you are a bit confused --- she'll be running in 2004, after President Bush completes his second term.

 

[Kendra17]

Originally posted by peachgirl
And Kendra, most of your posts expose a very extremist point of view....such as suggesting our country would be better off if we went to a single party system.

I'd think there would be much better ways than to use hand signals designed for use by prisoners of war. Besides, when in uniform, military personnel aren't supposed to "show" their political leanings.

Peachgirl, you took that quote completely out of context. As a matter of fact, after your post, I edited mine to make it clearer--in case more people understood it as you did. Of course I want a multi-party system.

I am for a more MODERATE Democratic party, Peachgirl. I voted Democratic in the last election, but I am THRILLED that Gore is not in office. After 9-11, the whole country divided, and I found that I agreed with the Republicans and that my party, who I had aligned myself with since high school, had changed. I am not saying anything new here. If Joe Lieberman was running, I'd consider voting for him--he's much more moderate than the current candidate and vice presidential candidate.

In that thread you were referring to, I HONESTLY tried to discuss a REAL news story. These were 250 SBVs that opposed Kerry's candidacy--so much so, that they were threatening him with legal action for using their pictures in ads.

Isn't this something worth discussing? Of course the story is politically motivated. Of course I am pro-Bush. Does that make it less compelling to discuss?

I (honestly!) want to have an intellectual discussion regarding this, but I was barraged with insult after insult on that thread--by every liberal on there. And, I was completely polite and tried to stay on the issue.

Why is that, Peachgirl? If you re-read that thread, you will see, even if I am motivated politically--as we all are, here--I have a valid point I wanted to discuss with the opposing side, to get their take on it. This is what intellectual discourse is about.

It seems that every single time one of these kinds of threads gets of turns political, the insults come rolling in. And, I HONESTLY see it that the Democrats just become MEAN and INSULTING. Sure, I might insult Kerry, but I'm not insulting YOU. Do you see the difference? Look at minniepumpernickel's remarks to me--and dansara's--they were overtly cruel. Did I do anything to them PErSONALLY to deserve that?

That's what I (and I'm being presumptuous, but I think others, too) am referring to when I say Republican bashing (earlier I misspoke and said Democrat-bashing. I meant Republican bashing).

 

[shortbun]

Originally posted by we3luvdisney


Beast --- Actually others have said the same thing. I think Kerry fits into that category --- he thinks, changes his mind, thinks again, changes his mind, thinks again and changes his mind again ......

Thank goodness we can count on you for the same
blah blah blah!

 

[shortbun]

Originally posted by Kendra17


I am for a more MODERATE Democratic party, Peachgirl. I voted Democratic in the last election, but I am THRILLED that Gore is not in office. After 9-11, the whole country divided, and I found that I agreed with the Republicans and that my party, who I had aligned myself with since high school, had changed. I am not saying anything new here. If Joe Lieberman was running, I'd consider voting for him--he's much more moderate than the current candidate and vice presidential candidate.

In that thread you were referring to, I HONESTLY tried to discuss a REAL news story. These were 250 SBVs that opposed Kerry's candidacy--so much so, that they were threatening him with legal action for using their pictures in ads.

Isn't this something worth discussing? Of course the story is politically motivated. Of course I am pro-Bush. Does that make it less compelling to discuss?

I (honestly!) want to have an intellectual discussion regarding this, but I was barraged with insult after insult on that thread--by every liberal on there. And, I was completely polite and tried to stay on the issue.

Why is that, Peachgirl? If you re-read that thread, you will see, even if I am motivated politically--as we all are, here--I have a valid point I wanted to discuss with the opposing side, to get their take on it. This is what intellectual discourse is about.

Look Kendra-your posts are mostly reactionary - not just conservative and certainly NOT moderate or anywhere close to
any democrat in good standing. I just can barely believe that you
actually voted for Gore last election(but I'll take your word for it) and you talk about 9.11 as if it was some political epiphany for you. "Intellectual discourse" WOULD be interesting if you were open minded at all but you clearly are not.

Sorry, Peachgirl, just had to.

 

[peachgirl]

What makes my signature line any different from your avatar and countdown clock? If you notice I'm not directing my comments to one individual, like you --- mine are directed to the Democratic party

My avatar and countdown clock are directed at the candidate and my desire to see him defeated. It's not sarcastic nor is it directed towards voters.

Your signature line says "Vote Democratic, it's easier than working".

You're not directing that towards the Democratic party, you're directing it towards voters. You know exactly what the inference there is....people who don't want to work should vote Democrat. It's an insult and you know it.

 

[peachgirl]

Sorry, Peachgirl, just had to.

No apologies neccessary. Sometimes you just have to.......

 

[jrydberg]

Originally posted by Grog
That can be said word for word about people on both sides of the aisle here on the DIS. I've seen the "political animals" on both sides start plenty of threads bashing the others candidate. Just because there isn't a Bush bashing thread on page one or two doesn't mean they aren't there. Personally, I'd like to see someone here start a thread about what's good about their candidate, instead of what's bad about the other, but I doubt my heart would stand the strain.

The Republicans here who complain about Bush bashing threads and the Democrats who complain about Kerry bashing threads need to back up and take a good look in the mirror.

Grog for three! And it's... goooood!

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by shortbun
Thank goodness we can count on you for the same
blah blah blah!

Gee, another democrat jumping on the bandwagon I want to thank you for that intelligent post.

FYI --- The latest for "Flapjack" John

"John Kerry recently stopped in Las Vegas to say: "Rest assured, Nevada. If I'm president, Yucca Mountain will not be a depository."

 

[ThAnswr]

Originally posted by Kendra17
I (honestly!) want to have an intellectual discussion regarding this, but I was barraged with insult after insult on that thread--by every liberal on there. And, I was completely polite and tried to stay on the issue.

The words may say you want an intellectual discussion, but the attitude says you want to have your "brilliance" acknowledged and your "superiority" vernerated.

As for your complaint "I was barraged with insult after insult on that thread--by every liberal on there", I respectfully suggest it's comments like this "I would like to see an end to the current twisted incarnation of the Democratic Party " that grease the skids so to speak.

Now, as far as your 2 favorite Democrats, Zell Miller has morphed into a crochety crackpot and Joe Lieberman is a mush-mouthed opportunist who couldn't wait to condemn Billl Clinton, but waited until Clinton was overseas. Even Pat Buchanan took issue with that.

 

[katerkat]

[ignoring everything else]

Yes, DH said they are taught hand signals, but they are fairly useless, as POWs are rarely taped with full bodies.

 

[WillyJ]

I do. . . just happened to read about it in USA Today today;


"Polls show that most Nevadans oppose the project, approved by Bush and Congress in 2002 over the objections of Nev. Gov. Kenny Guinn, a Republican. Kerry voted against proceeding with the facilities which Nevada officials have fought since '82 as an unwanted dump. . ."

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by katerkat
[ignoring everything else]

Yes, DH said they are taught hand signals, but they are fairly useless, as POWs are rarely taped with full bodies.

Thanks!

 

[WillyJ]

Oh, and as far as the "hand signal" in the photo. . .

Hard to tell for sure because the red circle hides the whole hand, but it looks to me like he's just crossing his fingers- you know, like little kids will make a promise but have their fingers crossed behind thier backs signifying they didn't mean it. . .

That's the most reasonable explanation. . . the guy was acting nice in the pic but crossed his fingers to indicate it wasn't genuine. . . a little juvenile perhaps; but more then likely nothing sinister.

 

[we3luvdisney]

Originally posted by WillyJ
I do. . . just happened to read about it in USA Today today;


"Polls show that most Nevadans oppose the project, approved by Bush and Congress in 2002 over the objections of Nev. Gov. Kenny Guinn, a Republican. Kerry voted against proceeding with the facilities which Nevada officials have fought since '82 as an unwanted dump. . ."

Thanks! Now if he could only overcome his weakness for national defense he may have a chance in November.

 

[GBsMom]

Hey civilians, it is the correct symbol for brother/sisterhood in the tight net family. When we deploy, and retrieve people it is one or two person mission. When the person shows that sign, the person has saved by a survival troop. A good example, is the picture of the truck driver with a broken arm, wearing the arch and the flag of the SERE community.


So maybe he is glad to be alive and well because of these people.
Plus, remember the helicopter crash with 50 returning-- well first on the site to apply first aid, secure the area, and move the people to germany, yes sere people.


So, they a few and small but that is their job to keep people coming back alive.

 

[WillyJ]

What weakness would that be?

He's voted for everything Bush wanted except the one $87 Billion funding/aid package for Iraq, and he make it clear that his problem was not with the majority of the money that went to the troops, but with the $18 billion that went for reconstruction of Iraq. . like several Republicans, he felt it should be a loan and not a give-away.

I have a problem with both Kerry and Bush's stance on the whole Iraq deal, and except for rehtorical flourishes and misleading statements by both men, I'm no seeing any real substantial difference in what they are saying they will do as far as national defense. . .

I'm sure willing to look at anything specific you know of with an open mind though-

 

[WillyJ]

The guy has his middle finger crossed over his index finger. . . he's crossing his fingers.


Or am I missing something here??