Hey...Teacher...leave those projects at school!!!

[kamik86]

Oh, I agree with that. When I said it would help her navigate a difficult boss later, I didn't necessarily mean that the boss would assign group projects like this. I just meant that there would be things the boss assigned that seemed unreasonable and eventually you have to find a way to deal with it.

Ok a difficult teacher being like difficult boss I would agree with.

I always was told it would help navigate difficult coworkers. However I do not have any coworkers that are even half as bad as some of the fellow students I would have to work with because they tend to not last every long...

However if I hated my boss and found her very difficult I could put in for a transfer to another department, find another job, etc. Students don't have the ability to do that in school (they may a bit IF a parent agrees but really not shot otherwise).

Honestly I find most of the people that say things at school were life lessons to be bull. When my MIL died if I had been in class and not in the middle of an internship I would have failed all my classes due to missing 2 weeks of class to be with DH (espeically since he was a month shy of being DH at the time) however if someone has an emergency like that at work and the response is "Go take the time you need, let us know what is going on when you can and if you need anything." not to fire you like school would tell you should happen.

School tries to teach you to always turn things in on time and its better to have them be bad then late... yeah if you did that in many industries people would die.

 

[LilyWDW]

I played multiple sports (soccer, basketball, tennis, and swam) and still figured out how to do group projects and other projects outside of class time. I also was nearly a straight A student (a few B's here and there), belonged to a couple clubs, and was in girl scouts. It is 100% possible if you make it a priority. That's what it sounds like the problem is. The OP and her child think these projects are stupid and don't make them a priority so it's "too hard" for them to do and it's "not fair" and "a bad idea".

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

Then you need to deal with the fact that there is going to be an excessive amount of time towards school projects, and needing to buy materials for that project. It's school, and school is more important than a sport.

This. There are always projects outside of school, no matter what school or what grade or district...etc. It's something that happens and comes up. Prepare for anything is a simple motto to keep. What about getting together before school? When I was in HS and a cheerleader, our practices were very long and games were on the weekends. My group mates and I would meet before school and get anything we needed done and as much as we think we are busy there is always time, there are stores open 24 hours and if I couldn't make it, I would make a list and my mom or dad would make it to the store using my list and this was a mom that was working full time 70 minutes away from home and going to college full time in the evening. My dad worked full time and traveled a lot for work and went to college on the weekends. Time was very tight but we made it work.

 

[mom2rtk]

No school is NOT more important than a sport. But nice try.

Secondly I am just venting about at home school projects that take my time and money and trying to coordinate with a group to get this done. If this is SO important to the curriculum it should be done in school. With the materials provided by the district AND the TIME provided by the district.

OK, I see why I'm having trouble understanding your issue. We value sports at our house a lot. In fact, I'm leaving in a bit to go watch my daughter play varsity tennis. But while we value sports, we value the classroom work more and are very clear with our kids about that.

 

[mom2rtk]

Ok a difficult teacher being like difficult boss I would agree with.

I always was told it would help navigate difficult coworkers. However I do not have any coworkers that are even half as bad as some of the fellow students I would have to work with because they tend to not last every long...

However if I hated my boss and found her very difficult I could put in for a transfer to another department, find another job, etc. Students don't have the ability to do that in school (they may a bit IF a parent agrees but really not shot otherwise).

Honestly I find most of the people that say things at school were life lessons to be bull. When my MIL died if I had been in class and not in the middle of an internship I would have failed all my classes due to missing 2 weeks of class to be with DH (espeically since he was a month shy of being DH at the time) however if someone has an emergency like that at work and the response is "Go take the time you need, let us know what is going on when you can and if you need anything." not to fire you like school would tell you should happen.

School tries to teach you to always turn things in on time and its better to have them be bad then late... yeah if you did that in many industries people would die.

I'm glad your place of employment was great when your MIL died. But unfortunately that's not the case everywhere. My former employer allowed 3 days when a spouse's parent died, and any time beyond that would have needed to be covered by vacation time.

And while you can always transfer to another department at work, school courses aren't forever either. You get different classes (and usually different teachers) next semester, or at least next year.

 

[PlutoPony]

OP - group projects can be a very large part of college life, and trying to get a couple high schoolers together to work is nothing compared to getting a group of college students together for group projects.... you haven't seen ANYTHING! And she won't have you to run out and buy supplies for her. So helping her successfully navigate these projects now can be a big help to her later on. Oh - and while for you sports is on par with school in importance, in college a student's job may be absolutely necessary to them even going to school.

 

[HelloTheDrakes]

No school is NOT more important than a sport. But nice try.

Secondly I am just venting about at home school projects that take my time and money and trying to coordinate with a group to get this done. If this is SO important to the curriculum it should be done in school. With the materials provided by the district AND the TIME provided by the district.

 

[kamik86]

OP - group projects can be a very large part of college life, and trying to get a couple high schoolers together to work is nothing compared to getting a group of college students together for group projects.... you haven't seen ANYTHING! And she won't have you to run out and buy supplies for her. So helping her successfully navigate these projects now can be a big help to her later on. Oh - and while for you sports is on par with school in importance, in college a student's job may be absolutely necessary to them even going to school.

I actually found college to be easier then high school for groups. Yeah we were busier however:

• Most college groups we were allowed to pick our own groups
• Most college students care, many high school students didn't so they at least were trying to work with you
• Only the students schedules have to be factored in not the parents
• No bedtimes. Yes that meant sometimes we met from 10 PM to Midnight but we had that option, in high school parents wouldn't have allowed that even if it was the only time
• Less transportation issues. We could reasonably expect that everyone can get to campus for meetings

 

[DanceswithDisney]

Let's see if I can respond. Someone said get together before school. Guess what, three of the parents work and are gone before the bus even comes. Each kid has activities outside of school. One was out of town last week and will be out of town this week. Mine has soccer and tutoring commitments every day this week. We looked at skipping a practice but not a scrimmage and certainly not a match. I never once said sports were more important, but we find them just as important in teaching LIFE lessons as what is learned in school. Plus there is that whole fitness thing which trumps everything!

Someone compared it to college. Big difference, it did not take up a parents time to get done. Again as evidenced by several in this post, I am not the only parent who hates at home projects. Homework do not take up my time or expense to run around buying things for the project. As the title of this thread says, leave those projects at school if they are so important. These are not extra credit projects, they are required. Then classtime should be taken up for them and the materials need to be provided by the district.

College is not for everyone and my child more than likely will not being going to college. Maybe a trade school, but the kid is already showing an interest in AC repair and plumbing. I fully support the kid in that pursuit.

One good thing came out of the original project starting this thread. Turning in the power point early meant extra credit and the kid got a 105 on the paper and guac, enchiladas and sofa pillows which were served. I have since sold the deep fryer.

 

[Dentam]

I think you have made your point. Now it seems like you're just trying to get people riled up - especially with the continued reference to sofa pillows.

 

[tcufrog]

Please bold instead of all caps if you wish to emphasize something. Thanks.

 

[Missy1961]

I think you have made your point. Now it seems like you're just trying to get people riled up - especially with the continued reference to sofa pillows.

It does seem that way, especially if you add in the comment that sports are more important than school.

 

[DisneyMommyMichelle]

It does seem that way, especially if you add in the comment that sports are more important than school.

I commented here foolishly and didn't realize it was just someone stirring the pot. I just went through and noticed that others had already commented on the other types of posts the OP has out there. Oh well, live and learn! LOL. I never feel like reading an entire thread when it's so long, but I am beginning to think it's necessary.

 

[Missy1961]

I commented here foolishly and didn't realize it was just someone stirring the pot. I just went through and noticed that others had already commented on the other types of posts the OP has out there. Oh well, live and learn! LOL. I never feel like reading an entire thread when it's so long, but I am beginning to think it's necessary.

I know. I used to comment as I read, but now I wait to read the whole thing!

 

[chelynnah]

Also when committed to a non refundable money and time commitment, time off from the sport is not happening. I knew my commitment coming into soccer. At no time during curriculum nights were outside projects mentioned. Not once.

Then where have you been for the past 50+ years, because school projects outside of class have been part of the curriculum since I was in grade school and I'm 49 years old. Where did they say there WOULDN'T be projects outside of school.

 

[DanceswithDisney]

It does seem that way, especially if you add in the comment that sports are more important than school.

Nowhere did I make a comment that sports are more important than school, but nice try.

 

[DanceswithDisney]

I know. I used to comment as I read, but now I wait to read the whole thing!

And Missy520 tends to read things the way she wants and not what is actually written.

 

[chelynnah]

We will never give up soccer. We put as I said just much value on the lessons taught out of school.

If that's true, then perhaps you should consider what lesson she might be learning now from your attitude toward these situations...

 

[HelloTheDrakes]

Nowhere did I make a comment that sports are more important than school, but nice try.

DanceswithDisney said: ↑
No school is NOT more important than a sport. But nice try.

Secondly I am just venting about at home school projects that take my time and money and trying to coordinate with a group to get this done. If this is SO important to the curriculum it should be done in school. With the materials provided by the district AND the TIME provided by the district.

 

[DanceswithDisney]

DanceswithDisney said: ↑
No school is NOT more important than a sport. But nice try.

Secondly I am just venting about at home school projects that take my time and money and trying to coordinate with a group to get this done. If this is SO important to the curriculum it should be done in school. With the materials provided by the district AND the TIME provided by the district.

Thank you for making my point. I never said sports were MORE important than school. You just so eloquently proved my point to a fault!