HELP Just arrived and so unhappy

[Baltazar]

This thread reminds me of a joke

"how do you keep an idiot in suspense?"

...

"I'll tell you later"

 

[disneyfan2kids]

In my experience, most (not ALL...and I am only speaking from my experience), cheerleaders tend to feel entitled enough without indulgences like "Oh, they're kids. Let them do what they want."

I went on several band trips and youth group trips during middle school and high school, and we had the fear of god put into us about behavior. First offense (assuming it wasn't major) and you spent the next day with a chaperone. Second (or serious first) offense and you were on a bus or plane back home AT YOUR PARENTS EXPENSE. I also led youth groups on trips, and it was the same thing. There were meetings with parents. There were behavior contracts signed by youth and their parents. And everyone knew that it was serious.

The sad thing with these cheerleaders is that too often (again, not all the time, but a lot...and there are examples on these threads of it...like the cheer dad who was pissed that they wasted time and money to come in third) the coaches and parents don't care as long as the little darlings win. It's disgusting. And people think the creators of "Glee" are exaggerating with their cheerleading coach. Sadly, from what I've seen, they're being kind. Whatever happened to "It's just a game" and just wanting kids to be the best they can for that day?

This is completely ridiculous... you're saying "cheerleaders" are spoiled and entitled....but the "band kids" are all well behaved? What is this...junior high? Were you cut from the cheerleading team or something...or turned down by one? Seriously... ridiculous!

I'd say it's attitudes like THIS that leads to raising kids with entitlement problems.... sheez... what a great lesson kids will learn by adopting the attitude like this. Hmm... it's not "individuals" who are misbehaved or have attitudes...it's just certain "groups." Nice...

 

[CoachBagFanatic]

This thread reminds me of a joke

"how do you keep an idiot in suspense?"

...

"I'll tell you later"

 

[BobbleClank]

This thread reminds me of a joke

"how do you keep an idiot in suspense?"

...

"I'll tell you later"

That gives me an idea. We leave in 29 days for 9 day stay at CBR. So stay tuned. I know you all will.

 

[JennMouse32]

people its called "Peer Pressure" do we not remember it?? yes one person will do soemthing if their friends are.. get use to it... im not saying every single kid does it.. but most do... so in this case of the cheerleaders or whatever.. there really is no indvidual... there is a group.. you get a group of kids, pretty much alone at a resort in disney.. what else would u expect? Im also not saying its right by any means...​

 

[Disneymama5816]

Wow, this thread is going downhill very fast. Just a comment on the entitlement issue of "most" cheerleaders. I think in any group, you will encounter the feeling of "entitlement" when you are at these competitions/conferences/etc. Some people feel that when you pay a lot for an event, they can do whatever they want. SOME people, not most. We travel to cheer comps every other weekend (including Disney during Worlds in April). I absolutely see kids running around crazy with minimal supervision, but those are the exception, not the rule. To say that most cheerleaders (in particular) have a sense of entitlement is a stereotypical (sad and wrong) comment. My daughter is in the gym 4-5 days week. Trust me they give up a tremendous amount of personal time for this sport - as with any sport where you are competing at advanced levels. Regarding the comments that the kids are yelling/practicing during the day. Sometimes during a competition, changes must be made, and practice is a must. I TOTALLY agree that after 10pm, there should be no practicing. I have NEVER had my daughter's coaches (in 7 years) ask her to practice at 10pm. Just my 2 cents.

 

[momof3lovebugs]

Actually I didn't tell him his thought process was off-he just has never experienced the whole cheerleading issue-our kids would never misbehave so he doesn't realize how bad groups can get-any groups -not just cheerleaders. We disipline our kids-they are good and as far as being rude-just not so. I do agree that most of the issues do come from adults-especially ones that just let it happen & laugh along with their kids. Being my husband is in law enforcement he deals with this on a daily basis-honestly he just likes to come here & post now & again-I think I ought to change my name here-he's gonna get everyone mad at ME!!!

Hm, well being that his job is law enforcement I would think he would have less tolerance for rude and obnoxious not more. Sure he doesn't want to have to enforce the rules when he is on vacation and so he opts to pay for a more $$ rooom, but I suggest that this goes beyond just vacation.(and btw, it does happen at more $$$ hotels too, believe me).
It is something called common courtesy-a trait these days found to be lacking more and more..... Unfortunately there are those folks out there that have the brilliant idea that this is MY vacation and I can do whatever I darn well please and to heck with all the rest of you. (kind of like a you're blocking MY sun attitude, kwim)
Despite knowing these folk exist, I will continue to have a + attitude and just assume my vacation will be fine in the happiest place on earth. Fortunately, these incidences are the exception more than the rule so far so I continue to have faith that common decency will win out in the end. Call me Pollyanna.

 

[verticalchaos]

This is completely ridiculous... you're saying "cheerleaders" are spoiled and entitled....but the "band kids" are all well behaved? What is this...junior high? Were you cut from the cheerleading team or something...or turned down by one? Seriously... ridiculous!

I'd say it's attitudes like THIS that leads to raising kids with entitlement problems.... sheez... what a great lesson kids will learn by adopting the attitude like this. Hmm... it's not "individuals" who are misbehaved or have attitudes...it's just certain "groups." Nice...

No. If you read, I'm saying that when I have encountered cheer groups (and I worked at a hotel in Nashville that usually hosts a competition as well) the majority (again, I never said ALL) of them came off as spoiled and entitled. I actually heard one leader tell her group they could do whatever they wanted because they were performing so well - and then watch with a smile as they went SCREAMING and TURNING CARTWHEELS down the hall.

I haven't had experience with band groups since I was traveling in them, and as I said, our leaders instilled in us that we were representing our school. We had leaders who actually enforced good behavior. We were not allowed to play our instruments at all hours of the night (in fact, our instruments were kept in a secure location). We had a curfew which was enforced AND checked on by chaperones patrolling the halls (my mom went once...they all had shifts through the night). And any misbehavior was immediately addressed. In one case, parents were called at 2 in the morning because of a girl's misbehavior.

But in my experience, people tend to overlook and forgive FAR too much when it comes to ANY type of sports team.

 

[sdemore]

So after that said if this happened at the Poly CL would it bother you, or would you just say it is kids being kids?

 

[sdemore]

That is the funniest thing I've read on the DIS in quite awhile!
Smart woman. It's good that you listen to her.

 

[clkelley]

I'm going to post a different point of view on this whole thing. I've stayed at Values many times even during these competitions and NEVER had a problem.

The problem with tickets was her own doing.

If she had a room and air package with SWA then she did not have tickets through the package. When she checked into the hotel, regardless if her room was ready, she would have gotten her KTTW cards. She could have then gone over to resort concierge, bought tickets, and added them to her card!!

Then she could have left for the parks. For goodness sake, it is 10:30 in the day!! Yes cheerleaders are going to practice and cheer at 10:30.

I bet by the time she got back from the parks that evening, things would have been a lot calmer!!

The Value resorts ARE NOT a place to relax and enjoy a quiet vacation. They are a hotel, a bed, a shower, and a food court. We stay at the values when the parks are our main focus. (Otherwise, we're at the campground).

We have NEVER used the food court as our main dining place. Barely have an occasional breakfast there.

Oh, and as far as segregating the "groups". They are segregated, at All-Stars!! That is the main resort for those groups. There is even a dedicated group check-in facility in the parking lot of Sports for those groups.

 

[WDWisOurHappyPlace]

This thread reminds me of a joke

"how do you keep an idiot in suspense?"

...

"I'll tell you later"

Yep, that's us.

I just came back from shopping and HAD to come check on this thread....still going strong. lol

Can you imagine if she really hasn't checked this thread since her last post, the surprise she will feel when she does!

Maybe she's still being shuttled around until she finds a resort that is quiet and clean enough for her.

Sorry Princess Erin, you really need to come back.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

The Value resorts ARE NOT a place to relax and enjoy a quiet vacation. They are a hotel, a bed, a shower, and a food court. We stay at the values when the parks are our main focus. (Otherwise, we're at the campground).

So if you can't afford to stay at a Deluxe, you're not entitled to a relaxing resort? Holy cow.

 

[Canyon girl]

The Value resorts ARE NOT a place to relax and enjoy a quiet vacation. They are a hotel, a bed, a shower, and a food court.

Actually, if you want to get nit-picky, the values are not hotels. They are motels.

I really hope the OP has found peace somewhere and is enjoying her time. Hopefully, Disney will sometime wake up and figure out how to fix the situation.

 

[verticalchaos]

So if you can't afford to stay at a Deluxe, you're not entitled to a relaxing resort? Holy cow.

Apparently. And also you're apparently supposed to not complain about having a soda dumped on you head from above.

(eta: NOT my thinking. The poster who implied all of that's thinking.)

 

[sdemore]

Princess Erin, please come back, the animals are getting restless and may begin eating their young

 

[clkelley]

So if you can't afford to stay at a Deluxe, you're not entitled to a relaxing resort? Holy cow.

Hmmm, yeah. Plain and simple, the values are not relaxing, even without the "groups".

We stay there, but we realize what they are. We use them for a bed and a shower. We get out the door early, we go to the parks, we "relax" in the public areas of a mod or deluxe at lunch and dinner. (Everything but the pool).

We get back after late EMH and go to bed.

 

[clkelley]

Apparently. And also you're apparently supposed to not complain about having a soda dumped on you head from above.

(eta: NOT my thinking. The poster who implied all of that's thinking.)

No, shouldn't tolerate having a soda dumped on your head. But then I wouldn't have been around the resort long enough for that to happen.

 

[JennMouse32]

well thats a bit offensive..​

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Hmmm, yeah. Plain and simple, the values are not relaxing, even without the "groups".

We stay there, but we realize what they are. We use them for a bed and a shower. We get out the door early, we go to the parks, we "relax" in the public areas of a mod or deluxe at lunch and dinner. (Everything but the pool).

We get back after late EMH and go to bed.

Honestly, good for you, but just because you can't afford a mod or a deluxe doesn't mean you should be forced to go commando. Or that you should have to go to a different hotel for some peace and quiet. How offensive.