Heartbreaking news...a big reminder to be aware of wildlife on property

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From FL official site. ....
Living with Alligators
In Florida, the growing number of people living
and recreating near water has led to a steady rise
in the number of alligator-related complaints.
The majority of these complaints relate to
alligators being where they simply aren’t wanted.
Because of these complaints, the Florida Fish and
Wildlife Conservation Commission’s Statewide
Nuisance Alligator Program permits the killing of
approximately 7,000 nuisance alligators each year.
Using this approach, and through increased public
awareness, the rate of alligator bites on people has
remained constant despite the increased potential
for alligator-human interactions as Florida’s human
population has grown.
Alligators are an important part of Florida’s
landscape and play a valuable role in the ecology
of our state’s wetlands. Alligators are predators
and help keep other aquatic animal populations in
balance. A better understanding of the facts and
information presented in this brochure will help
ensure that people and alligators can continue to
coexist.
Visit MyFWC.com/Gators for more information
about alligators and the latest nuisance alligator
program statistics.
Alligators and People
Alligators are a fundamental part of Florida’s wetlands,
swamps, rivers and lakes, and they are found in
all 67 counties. Florida continues to experience
human population growth. Many new residents seek
waterfront homes, resulting in increased interactions
between people and alligators.
Although most Floridians understand that we have
alligators living in our state, the potential for conflict
exists. Because of their predatory nature, alligators
may target pets and livestock as prey. Unfortunately,
people also are occasionally bitten. Since 1948, Florida
has averaged about five unprovoked bites per year.
During that period, a little more than 300 unprovoked
bites to people have been documented in Florida, with
22 resulting in deaths.
In the past 10 years, the Florida Fish and Wildlife
Conservation Commission has received an average of
nearly 16,000 alligator-related complaints per year.
Most of these complaints deal with alligators occurring
in places such as backyard ponds, canals, ditches and
streams, but other conflicts occur when alligators
wander into garages, swimming pools and golf course
ponds. Sometimes, alligators come out of the water to
bask in the sun or move between wetlands. In many
cases, if left alone, these alligators will eventually move
on to areas away from people.
Safety Tips
n Generally, alligators less than four feet in length
are not large enough to be dangerous unless handled.
However, if you encounter any alligator that you
believe poses a threat to people, pets or property,
call the Nuisance Alligator Hotline at 866-FWC-
GATOR (866-392-4286). Please be aware, nuisance
alligators are killed, not relocated.
n Be aware of the possibility of alligators when
you are in or near fresh or brackish water. Bites
may occur when people do not pay close enough
attention to their surroundings when working or
recreating near water.
n Do not swim outside of posted swimming areas
or in waters that might be inhabited by large
alligators.
n Alligators are most active between dusk and
dawn. Therefore, avoid swimming at night.
n Dogs and cats are similar in size to the natural
prey of alligators. Don’t allow pets to swim, exercise
or drink in or near waters that may contain
alligators. Dogs often attract an alligator’s interest,
so do not swim with your dog.
n Leave alligators alone. State law prohibits
killing, harassing or possessing alligators. Handling
even small alligators can result in injury.
A young alligator wanders onto a porch in a residential
neighborhood.
Tim Donovan, FWC
Do not swim outside of posted swimming areas or in
waters that may be inhabited by alligators.
Lizabeth West, FWC
Tim Donovan, FWC
 
But that's just it. Animals don't always know where they can or can't go. That bear may just end up in the suburb one day, all confused and scared because it's unfamiliar to it. We get moose into the city, even though it's not something we usually see and then people just needs to be careful until it hopefully find its way back out.
I have more than once seen deer on Wisconsin Avenue in DC!! It happens, but it's not common for them to be there. It IS common for gators to be in those lakes. NOT common that they attack, obviously, but common that they are PRESENT. Clearly many don't know that. Disney should inform them when they're drawing people there. And then people can make more informed choices.
 
This is from the WDW website re Poly:
"Escape to an enchanting oasis of swaying palms, white sandy beaches and tropical surroundings that evokes the languid spirit of the South Pacific. Disney’s Polynesian Villas & Bungalows makes its home at one of the original—and legendary—Walt Disney World Resort hotels."

"Tiki torches will light your way across sandy beaches around a tranquil lagoon dotted with palms. Exotic island refreshments and music will inspire you to abandon the cares of the outside world you've left behind.

Whether it's a relaxing family vacation in Disney's first over-the-water Bungalows, or a fun-filled getaway in our beautifully designed Deluxe Studios, you will find your place in paradise—and a favorite vacation getaway that your family will treasure for years to come."

"Lush, tranquil beauty abounds on the sandy beaches along the shores of Seven Seas Lagoon. You can enjoy the view from one of the lounge chairs and hammocks placed throughout the beach area. When the sun goes down, the beaches are also a favorite location for viewing the Electrical Water Pageant and the Magic Kingdom Park fireworks. Swimming is not permitted in Seven Seas Lagoon."

And the Grand Floridian:
" Bask on the white-sand beach, indulge in a luxurious massage and watch the fireworks light up the sky over Cinderella Castle."
"Watch favorite Disney films at complimentary movie screenings on the beach near Beach Pool"
 
This is a horrible, horrible tragedy. I am just gutted for these parents. How horrible to come on vacation with your whole family and leave with it broken and your heart shattered.

From what I gathered, they were watching a movie on the beach and the 4-year-old was in a playpen while the 2-year-old was splashing around in about a foot of water. Dad heard the splash and ran to his baby, which made it sound like he was not right there with him. Maybe 10 - 20 feet away? I am not blaming the parents or Disney. Mom and Dad probably assumed the water was controlled and Disney has never had an incident like this before and assumed "no swimming" was common logic to all not to get in the water. It is a terrible tragedy.

It is horrible enough to lose a child, but even more horrific in this manner. These poor parents will live this over and over and over again. They may be angry and guilt-stricken blaming themselves and I am sure once the initial shock wears off, every lawyer in their home town as well as Florida will reach out to them to sue Disney. No amount of money will bring their lovey back. :sad::sad::sad::sad:

I was thankful to read the word "intact". At least mom and dad can have a little peace in knowing that the precious baby probably started crying straightaway and was drowned almost immediately instead of being "damaged". I am so so thankful that the baby was not "damaged" and mom and dad will not have to deal with that imagery as well.
 

In this day and age, outdated and incorrect information is everywhere, readily available via Google. As is current information. At some point, the onus has to be on the traveler to make sure information is coming from a reliable source and is current. No entity, not even Disney, has the power to comb the Internet and remove all information regarding old rules and policies. Honestly, it's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. I am not having the debate about who is at fault here - in my opinion no one was, and it was a tragic accident. But your point that a very obviously old and now obscure picture has some sort of bearing here is some serious reaching.
You know there are more current photos showing people RIGHT at water's edge. Also potentially dangerous. Less egregious but still probably not so wise. I'm not blaming, nor splitting hairs. They should inform consumers about the risk. Like many other locations do with clear signs. That's all I've been saying. Seems odd for that to be controversial at this point.
 
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But, that isn't always the case. While traveling I have gone on many tours to water holes that people commonly swim in that are dark and murky and people swim there. In Tenessee the lake we stayed on IMO was murkey with seaweed and sludgey at the shore and every house had docks with slides and everyone swam in it. There are lots of bodies of water you cannot see the bottom people go into and that are very safe. Many people are not bothered by seaweed etc. I personally have an unhealthy fear of water if it isn't a pool, so I won't go in any water clear to the bottom or murky. I try to hide it as much as I can when with my children so they don't end up like me, but it isn't easy. So some fear water regardless of clarity while others do not.
And that is their choice to go in. In my opinion, not a wise choice because they aren't all safe..again my opinion and others have a different opinion. ..
 
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I usually just read, but I felt like adding to this. I live in Europe and there are few or no signs here. We expect people to educate themselves, depending on where you go. If you go wandering the woods, you might see moose, wolves or even bears (depending on where you go). I've literally met moose around the corner of my house, so they also show up in populated areas. If you go boating, you may end up in proximity to a pack of killer whales. We also don't put fences or signs on waterfalls or mountains, people should realize the danger of falling off and keep back from the edge

What I knew of Florida (before I went for the first time) was that they are famous for palm trees, hurricanes, oranges and gators. And what is found in the area around, can presumably be found in Disney too
I knew florida had gators but I thought they were in the everglades etc.... being from another state, how am I supposed to know more than that?
 
I'm a little skeptical on this, but if it is indeed true, it's very unusual. Perhaps there needs to be a sign reminding people that it is illegal to feed alligators in Florida, with what the punishment is. Because if alligators are running onto beaches it's not to be sociable, it's because people are feeding them - and an alligator doesn't know the difference between a man throwing him a sandwich one day and a man stood with a little boy the next, both are food to him.

I think depending on certain factors, it might not be so unusual. For example, this event was supposed to happen at night, when hunting is the most active. It also doesn't say if the daughter was close to the waters edge (I am guessing she was, since she heard the noise). If she was, then she would be within "striking" distance, which would give the alligator cause to come up out of the water to try to grab her.

Also to consider, is it IS still mating season. It is possible that this gator built a nest and laid her eggs and possibly, the humans got too close to the nest when it was nearing completion.

Or maybe simply, as you stated, too many people feed it and already it was thinking food. :(
 
:thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 This is what I expected.

"Walt Disney World plans to put up signs warning visitors of alligators following an attack that killed a young boy Tuesday, a source with knowledge of the situation has told the Orlando Sentinel
...
Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler issued a statement Thursday afternoon saying "we are conducting a swift and thorough review of all of our processes and protocols. This includes the number, placement and wording of our signage and warnings."."
 
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Saying it again, gators are everywhere in Florida. The information is out there, make use of it.
 
This is from the WDW website re Poly:
"Escape to an enchanting oasis of swaying palms, white sandy beaches and tropical surroundings that evokes the languid spirit of the South Pacific. Disney’s Polynesian Villas & Bungalows makes its home at one of the original—and legendary—Walt Disney World Resort hotels."

"Tiki torches will light your way across sandy beaches around a tranquil lagoon dotted with palms. Exotic island refreshments and music will inspire you to abandon the cares of the outside world you've left behind.

Whether it's a relaxing family vacation in Disney's first over-the-water Bungalows, or a fun-filled getaway in our beautifully designed Deluxe Studios, you will find your place in paradise—and a favorite vacation getaway that your family will treasure for years to come."

"Lush, tranquil beauty abounds on the sandy beaches along the shores of Seven Seas Lagoon. You can enjoy the view from one of the lounge chairs and hammocks placed throughout the beach area. When the sun goes down, the beaches are also a favorite location for viewing the Electrical Water Pageant and the Magic Kingdom Park fireworks. Swimming is not permitted in Seven Seas Lagoon."

And the Grand Floridian:
" Bask on the white-sand beach, indulge in a luxurious massage and watch the fireworks light up the sky over Cinderella Castle."
"Watch favorite Disney films at complimentary movie screenings on the beach near Beach Pool"

Thank you for this information, KatieCharlotte.
 
The Orlando Sentinel is reporting that Walt Disney World is planning to post signs on its property warning guests of alligators.


About time! My thoughts and prayers are with the family of the deceased. I pray that they will be able to one day live as normal as one can after losing a child.


"abundans cautela non nocet"
 
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