Have you ever had a shock?

[AllyCatTapia]

caste system! CASTE.
Sorry found it distracting. Otherwise interesting post.

 

[Squirlz]

Rejobako, I think it would make more sense to you if you weren't confusing "culture" with "people". No one's talking about eradicating people here, just the culture.

 

[rejobako]

Rejobako, I think it would make more sense to you if you weren't confusing "culture" with "people". No one's talking about eradicating people here, just the culture.

Actually, I wasn't confusing the terms. I certainly did not think the poster was suggesting that people be eradicated. Yikes. Cultures are multifaceted and complex. Not one of them is flawless, not even ours. So should we advocate eradicating an entire way of life because we have a problem with one aspect of it? People have been picking on Brazilians in this thread, so lets use the Brazilian culture as an example. There are many aspects of Brazilian culture that are fascinating and wonderful. I would object to the suggestion that the culture is inherently ripe for "eradication" because some of the citizens there don't have much of a problem with public urination/defacation.

Don't misunderstand me -- I have said repeatedly that public urination/defacation is not to be tolerated. I object to the suggestion that cultures where there is not yet a stigma against it are completely unworthy, and I especially objected to the suggestions as to how to deal with it when we see it.

As an aside, my wife is a runner, and she ran a big race in Paris last September which started at the Eiffel Tower and ended at Palace of Versailles. We're talking 20,000 people. She was shocked to see hundreds of people preparing for the race by relieving themselves on the street and in sports-drink bottles. She said no one else batted an eye, and she had to slosh around in puddles of it for most of the first mile of the race. \

Is that disgusting? You bet it is. But for now, the fact remains that many Europeans don't have a problem with that sort of behavior any more than we would take offense at a baseball player hocking a loogie onto the field. It's just something in your body that doesn't need to be in there any more, so out it goes.

Attitudes are changing, and thank goodness for that. In the meantime, however, I don't think it's appropriate to condemn an entire culture or to advocate committing battery on another person simply because your standards of public health are more involved as applied to this specific issue.

 

[Muziqal]

Actually, I wasn't confusing the terms. I certainly did not think the poster was suggesting that people be eradicated. Yikes. Cultures are multifaceted and complex. Not one of them is flawless, not even ours. So should we advocate eradicating an entire way of life because we have a problem with one aspect of it? People have been picking on Brazilians in this thread, so lets use the Brazilian culture as an example. There are many aspects of Brazilian culture that are fascinating and wonderful. I would object to the suggestion that the culture is inherently ripe for "eradication" because some of the citizens there don't have much of a problem with public urination/defacation.

Don't misunderstand me -- I have said repeatedly that public urination/defacation is not to be tolerated. I object to the suggestion that cultures where there is not yet a stigma against it are completely unworthy, and I especially objected to the suggestions as to how to deal with it when we see it.

As an aside, my wife is a runner, and she ran a big race in Paris last September which started at the Eiffel Tower and ended at Palace of Versailles. We're talking 20,000 people. She was shocked to see hundreds of people preparing for the race by relieving themselves on the street and in sports-drink bottles. She said no one else batted an eye, and she had to slosh around in puddles of it for most of the first mile of the race. \

Is that disgusting? You bet it is. But for now, the fact remains that many Europeans don't have a problem with that sort of behavior any more than we would take offense at a baseball player hocking a loogie onto the field. It's just something in your body that doesn't need to be in there any more, so out it goes.

Attitudes are changing, and thank goodness for that. In the meantime, however, I don't think it's appropriate to condemn an entire culture or to advocate committing battery on another person simply because your standards of public health are more involved as applied to this specific issue.

I agree. Eradicating a culture is somewhat narrow minded, extremist, and the train of thought is in line with some elitist American values. The world is a big place...and I think some imperialistic ideals have been created in the American culture that I bet some cultures/people abhor. Should we eradicate the culture of the red, white and blue because of the way some of you live and because of what some of you believe is acceptable?

Hmmm...I think there's a lot more to be concerned about inside your own borders, in terms of cultural intolerance and cultural embarrassment, than the visitors peeing and pooping in WDW...

But more to the point...why waste a good thread on debating whether Americans should eradicate cultures!?

Let's have some more shocking stories!

 

[AnaheimGirl]

OMG! I can't believe I'm posting about this subject, but here goes...

Let's not forget that there is a big difference between public urination and defecation. Urine is relatively sterile. You can actually drink it without it making you sick. Gross, yes, and no one wants to try it unless they are stranded somewhere without water, but it can be done and generally will not hurt you. Feces are full of bacteria, not to mention their composition keeps them around much longer.

I still know of no cultures where it's considered OK to defecate on a public walkway or on the floor of a bathroom. If someone knows of one specifically, let me know, I'm curious, and yea I agree that they need some education about disease.

But cultures where public urination is common, healthwise are no worse than ours, where we sneeze or cough into our hand, then immediately shake someone else's with it.

When my hubby was in Japan, he thought it odd that the men will urinate in the street, but then, they would wear surgical masks in public when they had a cold. Seems backwards to us, but I'm sure we seem backwards to them.

 

[IloveWINNIEthePOOH]

So... is the subject of "eradicating" cultures and whether or not we agree w/ what ALL Darian had to say? Great points, yes! Do we all agree with every single one of them? Probably not. But remember, this is a thread about shocking things at WDW. If some want to continue this discussion could it please be moved somewhere else so those of us wanting to read shocks don't have to skip through multiple posts about something that we didn't intend on reading?

Thanks!!!

 

[NatalieO]

This past May, me and my kids were waiting in line for the Jungle Cruise and this husband had his son on his shoulders and he was screaming well the mom was on her cell phone texting someone and gave the kid a sippy cup to keep him quiet. Well he threw it, and it hit the lady in front of the dad and the dad apologized over and over and the mom was just texting away. She picked up the cup and gave it back to the boy. This time he throws it again and it hits my daughter-7 on her toe (she is wearing flip flops) and I know it hurts her but she closes her eyes and tries not to cry and the mom said nothing. The dad put his son down and apologized to my daughter and even offered her a ice cream bar. Okay to the shocking part, the wife turned to us and said "damn the cup was only halfway full." Yeah then I became the shocking one that someone is probably writing about on this board. The next shocker was she was still texting and the dad took the phone out of her hands closed it and threw it. GO DAD!!GO DAD!!

 

[rejobako]

Apologies. It was not my intent to hijack the topic, or to get in the way of those who look forward to hearing about parents whacking their children on Main Street. Carry on!

 

[Darian]

So... is the subject of "eradicating" cultures and whether or not we agree w/ what ALL Darian had to say? Great points, yes! Do we all agree with every single one of them? Probably not. But remember, this is a thread about shocking things at WDW. If some want to continue this discussion could it please be moved somewhere else so those of us wanting to read shocks don't have to skip through multiple posts about something that we didn't intend on reading?

Thanks!!!

I join my dear DIS friend rejobako and offer my apologies as well for turning the shock thread into the scatological debate forum.

rejobako Lets meet at the Rose & Crown and I'll buy the first round. Between us we can discuss all the world's ills both cultural and political over beverages both cold and delicious.

 

[Darian]

This past May, me and my kids were waiting in line for the Jungle Cruise and this husband had his son on his shoulders and he was screaming well the mom was on her cell phone texting someone and gave the kid a sippy cup to keep him quiet. Well he threw it, and it hit the lady in front of the dad and the dad apologized over and over and the mom was just texting away. She picked up the cup and gave it back to the boy. This time he throws it again and it hits my daughter-7 on her toe (she is wearing flip flops) and I know it hurts her but she closes her eyes and tries not to cry and the mom said nothing. The dad put his son down and apologized to my daughter and even offered her a ice cream bar. Okay to the shocking part, the wife turned to us and said "damn the cup was only halfway full." Yeah then I became the shocking one that someone is probably writing about on this board. The next shocker was she was still texting and the dad took the phone out of her hands closed it and threw it. GO DAD!!GO DAD!!

That mom and dad need serious intervention. What did you do? Say, were you the woman I saw beating the living heck out of another woman over by the jungle cruise?

 

[Squirlz]

Actually, I wasn't confusing the terms

My apologies in that case

 

[rejobako]

I join my dear DIS friend rejobako and offer my apologies as well for turning the shock thread into the scatological debate forum.

rejobako Lets meet at the Rose & Crown and I'll buy the first round. Between us we can discuss all the world's ills both cultural and political over beverages both cold and delicious.

You're on! And I promise not to pee in my pint glass afterwards.

 

[a*lil*bit*goofy]

rejobako Lets meet at the Rose & Crown and I'll buy the first round. Between us we can discuss all the world's ills both cultural and political over beverages both cold and delicious.

Uh hello, Don't forget me! If I recall, I have an invite to join ya too. We can just make it a threesome. LOL! Not sure what the s/o's would say to that. LOL! Now THAT would be shocking ;o)

 

[dwheatl]

I was down in Disney last week and I saw a really sad thing. My Dad and I were in line for Splash, and there were two women in front of us with two little girls that looked to be about 7 and 5. The little one cried the entire time we stood in line-they didn't speak English so I don't know if she was afraid, but I felt really bad for her. It seemed like one of those cases where 3 people wanted to go on and one didn't so they were dragging the one that didn't on anyway.

I saw something similar in Blizzard Beach. It was one of the really high slides, and a mom had got to the top of the slide with her child, who had just barely cleared the height requirements. The mom was dangling the kid, kicking and screaming, onto the slide. The CM was telling her she should NOT force the child to go down the slide. People were offereing to watch the child at the top while mom went down the slide (which she obviously wanted to do after the long wait) and then she could come back for her child. Finally, she took the child back down the steps, but I felt sick when she was holding the child over the slide, thinking of how traumatized he was and how much he was going to hate his mom in the future if that's how she treated her child's feelings and fears.

 

[Jobie]

I know the "argument" is over but man rejobako you got pwned by Darian! (If you do not know what pwned is ask your video game playing kids)

Anyways, glad to see the two people can end a debate peacefully in today's world.

I have yet to have a true "shocking" moment, but hopefully I will have one to post this coming August.

 

[Sonno]

I encountered a couple doing the naughty naughty on Tom Sawyers Island once. That was kinda funny actually.

 

[SWHorn]

I was in line for the monorail and this lady was attempting to shove by people and move up the line. I didn't move out of the way for her, so she kicked me. KICKED me. I was so shocked that by the time I decided I was going to call for security they were long gone. I had a massive bruise on my leg for a couple of weeks. I still can't believe she kicked me. People can be really messed up sometimes.

 

[Dislifer]

I was in line for the monorail and this lady was attempting to shove by people and move up the line. I didn't move out of the way for her, so she kicked me. KICKED me. I was so shocked that by the time I decided I was going to call for security they were long gone. I had a massive bruise on my leg for a couple of weeks. I still can't believe she kicked me. People can be really messed up sometimes.

Wow! I have never had a physical confrontation with anyone ever, but I would have just had to react to this one!!!

 

[Corryn]

I encountered a couple doing the naughty naughty on Tom Sawyers Island once. That was kinda funny actually.

Well, wasn't it once intended to be a couple's only island?

 

[Amps]

I've got my own to add though I'm not really sure which part was really the most shocking. We were in line for Kiliminjaro Safari (suppossed to be a 35min wait) and when we got in the last little covered area just before splitting off to load onto the trucks and the CM that was controlling who went forward decided that the standby line was not worth letting go on the attraction. We actually stood in the same spot, not moving an inch for over 20mins while the CM kept letting Fast Pass users through but no a single standy rider. There was one guy and his wife right at the front that were getting extremely irritated because the CM was just ignoring them and the husband started to tap on the CMs shoulder pretty insistantly. Well about 2mins later the CMs manager showed up and took the husband aside to ask him about the situation. He explained that the CM obviously needed some education but since the man had been physically touching the CM that he suggested the man walk away from the situation. The whole situation put a huge damper on the afternoon.

However, when we went back a few days later, the same CM had obviously had a little sit down since she was now the one in charge of checking that the gates were closed on the train to the conservation station.