Happy Holidays, Holiday tree no problem but come on...

[2funny2c]

SO if you saw someone in a Yarmulke you would wish them Merry Christmas? How about someone with a headscarf on?

I would. What they are wearing doesnt change they fact that its Christmas.

Nor does it remove the obligation of the Great Commission.

 

[JennyMominRI]

It has been Christmas in this country since the founding fathers settled here. Why does it have to be changed now?? I will continue to wish everyone a Merry Christmas-if they don't like it-that's they're problem, not mine.

!!

Actually The Pilgrims did not celebrate Christmas.. They were Puritans

In Puritan New England, Christmas remained a working day, the violation of which was punishable by fine or dismissal. In 1659, the Massachusetts Puritans declared the observation of Christmas to be a criminal offense by passed the Five-Shilling Anti-Christmas Law:

Whosoever shall be found observing any such day as Christmas, or the like, either by forbearing labor, feasting, or any other way upon such account as aforesaid, every such person so offending shall pay for each offense five shillings as a fine to the country.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I would. What they are wearing doesnt change they fact that its Christmas.

Nor does it remove the obligation of the Great Commission.

Now that is just wrong!

 

[JennyMominRI]

Now that is just wrong!

Yup...

 

[JennyMominRI]

I would. What they are wearing doesnt change they fact that its Christmas.

Nor does it remove the obligation of the Great Commission.

It is also Chanukkah.Whether you like it or not.

 

[BelleMcNally]

Hey---on a lighthearted note, I saw a really funny Christmas card the other day.

It had a picture of Jesus and he was singing "Happy Birthday to Me!"

If I hadn't already bought our cards for this year, I would have definitely gotten those.

 

[2funny2c]

Yup...

Why is that wrong?

We cant wish anyone of a different faith Merry Christmas? Should we do a faith check before extending this pleasantry?

If a Jewish person came up to me and said Happy Hannukah or Merry Yom Kiphur<sp> I wouldnt be offended.

 

[2funny2c]

It is also Chanukkah.Whether you like it or not.

Fine. If you wish me Merry Chanukkah, I am OK with that.

 

[JennyMominRI]

Why is that wrong?

We cant wish anyone of a different faith Merry Christmas? Should we do a faith check before extending this pleasantry?

If a Jewish person came up to me and said Happy Hannukah or Merry Yom Kiphur<sp> I wouldnt be offended.

When you clearly know that someone doesn't celebrate that holiday,why would you wish them a Merry one?
I'm only talking about cases when you can clearly see someone is Jewish or Muslim etc.. Not the anonymous shopper of undetermined religious belief. I don't care if someone wishes me a Merry Christmas... I also wish people the same back...

 

[2funny2c]

When you clearly know that someone doesn't celebrate that holiday,why would you wish them a Merry one?
I'm only talking about cases when you can clearly see someone is Jewish or Muslim etc.. Not the anonymous shopper of undetermined religious belief.

because it doesnt change the fact that its Christmas. And just because someone is wearing something that identifies them as Jewish or Muslim doesnt necessarily mean that they dont celebrate Christmas.

I went to school with some Jewish students that celebrated Hannukah and Christmas because of the mixed faith marriage of their parents.

 

[Crankyshank]

How many people do you know wearing a Yarmulke celebrate Christmas instead of Hannukah?

 

[BelleMcNally]

I think the issue here, 2funny, is that when you bring up the Great Commission, you make it seem like your Holiday Greeting is an attempt to convert whomever you're talking to, rather than truly extending warm wishes to them--as if there's some kind of hidden agenda.

I could be wrong, though.

 

[2funny2c]

How many people do you know wearing a Yarmulke celebrate Christmas instead of Hannukah?

Like I said, there was this jewish guy in my school that wore a Yarmulke and celebrated Christmas because his Father was Jewish and his mother was Catholic.

 

[frndshpcptn]

"wow that was hard---even a search of "secular holiday songs" yielded songs with the word Christmas in the title and Santa. So I'm not sure the definition of secular anymore. If as long as it doesn't mention Jesus--then there are lots of them."

That's interesting. I guess the next question is what defines secular. I think any song with "Christmas" or "Santa" in it is a "Christmas song" for the Christian celebrants. But that may be because of my Jewish background. So, for example, if a school holiday program had the following songs, I'd see it clearly as mostly Christian. But maybe other would not?

Frosty (Christian)
Jingle Bells (Christian)
Winter Wonderland (Christian)
Rudolf the Reindeer (Christian)
Deck the Halls (Christian)
O Hannukkah (Jewish)
Dreidel Song (Jewish)

 

[castleview]

"wow that was hard---even a search of "secular holiday songs" yielded songs with the word Christmas in the title and Santa. So I'm not sure the definition of secular anymore. If as long as it doesn't mention Jesus--then there are lots of them."

That's interesting. I guess the next question is what defines secular. I think any song with "Christmas" or "Santa" in it is a "Christmas song" for the Christian celebrants. But that may be because of my Jewish background. So, for example, if a school holiday program had the following songs, I'd see it clearly as mostly Christian. But maybe other would not?

Frosty (Christian)
Jingle Bells (Christian)
Winter Wonderland (Christian)
Rudolf the Reindeer (Christian)
Deck the Halls (Christian)
O Hannukkah (Jewish)
Dreidel Song (Jewish)

My Christian, public schooled kindergartner just learned the Dreidel Song in school the other day. Hasn't stopped singing it yet. I'll admit, it's very catchy.

 

[BelleMcNally]

"wow that was hard---even a search of "secular holiday songs" yielded songs with the word Christmas in the title and Santa. So I'm not sure the definition of secular anymore. If as long as it doesn't mention Jesus--then there are lots of them."

That's interesting. I guess the next question is what defines secular. I think any song with "Christmas" or "Santa" in it is a "Christmas song" for the Christian celebrants. But that may be because of my Jewish background. So, for example, if a school holiday program had the following songs, I'd see it clearly as mostly Christian. But maybe other would not?

Frosty (Christian)
Jingle Bells (Christian)
Winter Wonderland (Christian)
Rudolf the Reindeer (Christian)
Deck the Halls (Christian)
O Hannukkah (Jewish)
Dreidel Song (Jewish)

I agree with the "Christmas" and "Santa" classification..but I don't think Jingle Bells, Winter Wonderland or Frosty have those...
I think those are just "winter" songs.

 

[JennyMominRI]

My Christian, public schooled kindergartner just learned the Dreidel Song in school the other day. Hasn't stopped singing it yet. I'll admit, it's very catchy.

It's cute,but there is no doubt that Christmas gets the better songs

 

[JennyMominRI]

I think the issue here, 2funny, is that when you bring up the Great Commission, you make it seem like your Holiday Greeting is an attempt to convert whomever you're talking to, rather than truly extending warm wishes to them--as if there's some kind of hidden agenda.

I could be wrong, though.

I just don't see what's so hard about saying happy Chanukah to someone who is cleary Jewish. Whether or not they also celebrate Christmas is irrelevent really. Or if you can't bear to say Chanukah ,than Happy Holidays works...
And I don't believe for a second that some people would be just fine being wished a Blessed Yule,, Blessed Ramadan or Happy Chanukah.

 

[2funny2c]

"wow that was hard---even a search of "secular holiday songs" yielded songs with the word Christmas in the title and Santa. So I'm not sure the definition of secular anymore. If as long as it doesn't mention Jesus--then there are lots of them."

That's interesting. I guess the next question is what defines secular. I think any song with "Christmas" or "Santa" in it is a "Christmas song" for the Christian celebrants. But that may be because of my Jewish background. So, for example, if a school holiday program had the following songs, I'd see it clearly as mostly Christian. But maybe other would not?

Frosty (Christian)
Jingle Bells (Christian)
Winter Wonderland (Christian)
Rudolf the Reindeer (Christian)
Deck the Halls (Christian)
O Hannukkah (Jewish)
Dreidel Song (Jewish)

From my perspective, these are secular Christmas songs because they dont refer to the birth of Jesus in any way.

 

[JennyMominRI]

I agree with the "Christmas" and "Santa" classification..but I don't think Jingle Bells, Winter Wonderland or Frosty have those...
I think those are just "winter" songs.

Jingle Bells was actually written in the 1900's for Thanksgiving