Hand scanning for park entrance ? start date

Originally posted by KNWVIKING
Just be sure and pack your fingers just in case and you shouldn't have any problems. I believe most airlines allow them as carry-on so they won't get lost with the rest of your luggage.

lol BUT you missed the point of the OP. He wants to sell the extra days on E-Bay. He just has to include his right hand as part of the auction.

Someone posted that they are already doing the hand scan for the Great Britain tickets. Assume the only way you're going to be able to sell the tickets in E-Bay is by screwing the bidders.
 
He is a SHE, and I dont want to loose my ratings on ebay or to sell someone something they cant use! Has anyone from the UK been to disney recently, used a 10 day pass and had a finger scan? My auction is closing in a day or so - probably have to withdraw from selling unless i can get a definate yes or no soon!
thanks
 
IS THIS DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH SHOWING YOUR PASS??
 
Come to think of it they probably have to put names on the passes first.
Annual Passes already have your name on them.
I dont want to loose my ratings on ebay or to sell someone something they cant use!
So your Ebay rating is more important than violating Florida law?
 

Originally posted by janasshe
He is a SHE, and I dont want to loose my ratings on ebay or to sell someone something they cant use! Has anyone from the UK been to disney recently, used a 10 day pass and had a finger scan? My auction is closing in a day or so - probably have to withdraw from selling unless i can get a definate yes or no soon!
thanks

Read this very carefully and you should have your answer.

Not that I would ever think of doing this but, what stops two people from sharing a multi-day pass? I heard something about finger printing, but when I was there last year, I don't remember anyone getting their fingers scanned. In fact, the gate people barely glanced at our tickets.

You are right, finger scanning is only used for Annual and Seasonal Passports and selected multiday tickets sold internationally. Walt Disney World has never really been *that* concerned about the use of tickets by different individuals per se. What they have always been against was the *selling* of partially used tickets to other individuals.


I would guess this means you need to remove this from the auction site.
 
Originally posted by safetymom
I have never had my hand stamp checked when I park hopped.

Actually it is checked without you knowing about it, there are black lights placed in a manner that the stamp glows under it when you pass through the turnstyle.
 
I was there last week, and bogus or not, I would not risk it. If you pitch a fit a the gate when your scan doesnt work and they ask for ID, you are busted. They ID'd us several times when our scans were rejected. Especially the men.

We bought the Military 5 day passes and 4 of us went thru and weren't scanned but others in my party were. I didnt even know about scanning until we all got back together and they told me.

No one is going to risk buying on Ebay and get to the park and passes not work. It's a long haul from the parking lot to the entrance of MK and I would hate to go that far and get disappointed. Let alone from another state or Country.

All entrances were equipped with the scanners as of last week and we went to each park. They don't always read correctly and it's always when you have a crowd of people behind you so we tried to avoid them but couldn't. They could basically start now as the system is in place. Even if it wasn't connected to anything, or unplugged, it is enough of a deterrent to shut down auction sales and trades. Even if they did it randomly it's still not worth the risk, considering how much WDW vacations cost.
Sorry I can't help with your current auction or any dates, but from what I saw it can't be far off.
 
Do those passes expire? Sorry that I'm not familiar with the specifics of the pass you are asking about. If they do not expire I would just save them for some time down the road.
 
I was under the impression that the hand stamp was only checked when the system is down.

As far as lights viewing the stamp it isn't always on the same hand so I find that hard to believe.
 
Safetymom...
There are indeed blacklights installed at each turnstyle. They are often on a stand just behind the slot where your ticket comes through the reader. Thus, as you pick up your ticket, your hand passes under the light and the stamp is illuminated. I know you don't always get the same hand stamped, however, typically people will offer their dominant hand for the stamp and that is normally the hand used to retrieve the pass.

And yes, there are instances where the CM is paying attention to another turnstyle so you just go in without any question. However, if you go from one park to another within a short time span, the computer will flag the CM and they will need to see the handstamp before they can let you in the park. This is to prevent people from using the same pass to get several people into the park on the same day.

I know I've had this happen with my AP when I've gone to the MK to pick something up on Main Street and then headed straight to another park. I always get a handstamp in such a situation so the CM can quickly verify that I was in another park that day without my having to dig out my ID.

Its not a perfect system and I'm not sure it is meant to be. But it is in place to deter people from trying to cheat the system.
 
I 'fail' the finger scan often with my annual pass and 80% of the time I have to show a photo ID before they override the system.
 
Originally posted by janasshe
I have recently heard that disney will be finger scanning all guests with passes - does anyone know when this is starting - we travel to orlando in early July and were hoping to sell on our tickets unused days on ebay.

We have a 10 day unlimited admissions pass - do you think it would apply to this?

My auction is closing in a day or so - probably have to withdraw from selling unless i can get a definate yes or no soon!
Since you are going to be using the tickets this month, you should have your answer when you go. Why do you have them listed on eBay before you've even used them? Why don't you wait until you come back and decide it you still think they are sellable. I wouldn't do it though.

If you have the 10 Day World Pass then you will not be able to sell them. See: http://www.mousesavers.com/tickets.html#worldpass

The 10-Day World Pass, which is not available at the park gates, roughly equivalent to the Ultimate Hopper Pass, in that it gives you admission to pretty much everything Disney offers -- the four major theme parks, the water parks, DisneyQuest, Pleasure Island and Wide World of Sports -- but with this pass you can use those admissions for any 10 days within a 21-day span. In addition, you get a FREE character breakfast with each pass!

The 10-Day World Passes are not sold at the theme park gates. The passes look exactly like a regular Hopper Pass but have "10-Day World Pass" printed on the reverse. A finger scan is required when you use these passes (the same kind of scan used for Annual Passes) to prevent them from being shared.
 
KNWVIKING.... Interestingly enough, my husband and I accidentially switched passes this last trip and both our fingers scans worked. (I hold all 4 passes and pass them out just before we hit the park, last year I had Minnie, this year he has Minnie, I didn't realize it until I collected them back). The real interesting part is that i have very long skinny fingers and he has short fat fingers so I thought it was really strange that it worked.

As far as the stamp goes, I never get one since I have an AP I thought I really didn't need one. But one thing I did realize last time I was there that when I went to Epcot later in the evening the machines have a read out that said something like "Adult Annual AP Already used today" so this might prompt a CM to ask me to show my stamp. I do have my ID so I am not really that worried, but I guess the reason for the stamp is so others don't use your pass later that day, since I would never do that, I guess I never realized the reason for it.
 
The hand stamp is done in case the computer system goes down. They can see on the screen where you have been during the day.

One time we weren't sure which of our free passes we had used. We went to Guest relations and they gave us a printout of where we had used our ticket that day.
 
Originally posted by safetymom
The hand stamp is done in case the computer system goes down. They can see on the screen where you have been during the day.

One time we weren't sure which of our free passes we had used. We went to Guest relations and they gave us a printout of where we had used our ticket that day.

Actually that is not true, as mentioned before. You are asked at each park to get your hand stamped if you are going to another park that day, the reason: so you cannot give the pass to someone else to use. Yes, the computer can track it, but, it cannot track who used it, except with the hand stamp. Just because you don't see the black light does not mean it is not there and not used. This hand stamp procedure has been in place LONG before they had the computers and bio scans at the turnstyles.
We have annuals and even though you are not required to get a hand stamp, we do, just in case. And, each and every time, the light is arranged in a way that it shows the hand stamp for the hand selected during the day. If the computers are down, which is a rare thing indeed (if they are the annual pass holders cannot get in, your ticket will not loose a day etc), the stamp would be a decent backup for those that have used the pass that day, but what of the people that were using the pass for the first time?

You can believe what you will, but, in this instance you are totally incorrect.
 
Originally posted by LIFERBABE
I was there last week, and bogus or not, I would not risk it. If you pitch a fit a the gate when your scan doesnt work and they ask for ID, you are busted. They ID'd us several times when our scans were rejected. Especially the men.

We bought the Military 5 day passes and 4 of us went thru and weren't scanned but others in my party were. I didnt even know about scanning until we all got back together and they told me.

No one is going to risk buying on Ebay and get to the park and passes not work. It's a long haul from the parking lot to the entrance of MK and I would hate to go that far and get disappointed. Let alone from another state or Country.

All entrances were equipped with the scanners as of last week and we went to each park. They don't always read correctly and it's always when you have a crowd of people behind you so we tried to avoid them but couldn't. They could basically start now as the system is in place. Even if it wasn't connected to anything, or unplugged, it is enough of a deterrent to shut down auction sales and trades. Even if they did it randomly it's still not worth the risk, considering how much WDW vacations cost.
Sorry I can't help with your current auction or any dates, but from what I saw it can't be far off.

Are you talking about scanning or hand stamps?
All entrances have been equipped with scanners for years now, this is not new. They are used for Annual Passes (both types), Florida passes (all types) and the 10 day world pass. They are not used for regular park hoppers, one day passes or park hopper plus passes.
Could you clarify your post?
 
Gail, I think that the answer lies somewhere in the middle. I thought this was a discussion board. I have been many times and have a daughter that is a CM.
 
Yes, it sure is a dicussion board and last I looked we were all discussing (as it were). The fact that you have a CM for a daughter is a wonderful thing. I have also been many times and have many CM friends and I have asked why the hand stamp and have, oddly enough, been given the same answer many times and have been shown the lights. My answer or comments to you are what I have been told, many times.
 
Okay, let me attempt to clear up a couple of misconceptions.

Anyone who wants info on the finger scan itself can read about it on Deb's web site.

Hand stamps are not done on different hands depending on the day of the week. They are done on different hands by different parks. Two use the right hand (MK & MGM) and two use the left(AK & EC). It doesn't change. But the stamp they each use changes daily.

There are black lights set up at the turnstyles. There are also handheld ones that most CM's will use to check for hand stamps. Gate CM's are notoriously lax in checking for handstamps though. It doesn't mean it isn't done but it can hardly be said they do it with any regularity.

The reason for having the hand stamps has nothing to do with the computer system being down. BTW, Disney has two backup systems to the main ATS so the chances of that happening are infintessimal. The hand stamps prove that it was you who used the ticket that day.

I too have many friends who are WDW CM's. They are experts in their own area. Disney does not share policies and procedures with them that do not affect their own area. Merchandising isn't told when a CRO/WDTC policy changes, food service isn't told when a ticket procedure changes, maintenance isn't told when an office procedure changes, etc etc. Some of the worst WDW information I've personally heard given has come from CM's who attempt to answer questions from guests pertaining to things outside of their area of expertise. They are mostly wonderful people but they aren't always right. Why do you think Tyler keeps cautioning people that if they want reliable tranportation info, ask the folks in the purple pants? Because they know their own department better than any other CM's.

For the OP, if you are using your 10 day when you are at WDW, you only have 21 days from first use to use it entirely or you lose it. The unused days are not good indefinitely like regular park hoppers.
 
Safety Mom I asked about the STAMP last week also and was told that it was a backup also to prove that you used your ticket that day. In a way it protects the guest should there be any question at the entry. When leaving EPCOT we asked about the STAMP, as we were headed to Blizzard Beach and was concerned the STAMP may wash off. We were told only with soap and water and our STAMP should remain intact at the WP.

Gail please re-read my OP. At no time did I say STAMP. I also stated what type of passes we were using. I did not say that all types of passes are scanned, but that they have the capability and a very effective deterrent to purchasing on Auctions. SCANNING is the correct term for the bio readings conducted at the entry gates is it not?

You may have been told something several times, but we all ask questions and who is to say the "several" CM's you asked were correct and the "several" Cm's we asked were incorrect.

Unless they gave you the official WDW handbook of Official Answers to Guest Questions, then this is a discussion where we share all our inconsistent answers so that we can make semi-informed decisions and prepare.

This is not the debate board and no one asked to be proven wrong or incorrect, simply inputting experience and sharing information.
 

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