Ha! This "snowflake" behaviour is hard to beat!

[tmarquez]

I like little Sarah. She has ALL the power. What's really funny is that she didn't even throw a fit....just pouted and they did whatever she wanted.

My sister and I witnessed a good "snowflake" story over the weekend. We ate at a character breakfast at Disneyland on Sunday. Next to us was a family with a little girl about 7 and a little boy about 4. At the end of their meal a few waitresses brought the little girl some fruit with a candle in it and quietly sang her happy birthday. She blew it out and the little boy went ballistic! We assumed the parents might make this a learning experience for the little boy (it's not always about you, it's nice to celebrate other people, etc), but no! While the dad rightfully took the little boy away, and while they were gone the mom asked the waitress to bring a lighter so she could relight the candle! The little girl was so mad and the mom kept saying you'll get to eat all the fruit. So here it was her birthday and she had to wait for her brother to get back to eat her birthday fruit.

So my sister and I assumed the dad would not approve of the mom's behavior, but no when he came back they all sang happy birthday to the little boy and they the little boy ate the sister's fruit! The little girl seemed so sad and exasperated.

I suppose it's possible the little boy was on the autism spectrum or had some other sort of disorder, but to me his tantrum didn't seem any different than seeking attention or jealousy. Even if he was autistic it wasn't fair to the little girl on her birthday. They could have easily deflected the situation another way.

Birthday fruit?! Sorry it just struck me as funny. Not only does she have to wait for bratty little bro to fake blowout birthday candles...all she gets is fruit.

 

[Mrs. Charming]

My sister and I witnessed a good "snowflake" story over the weekend. We ate at a character breakfast at Disneyland on Sunday. Next to us was a family with a little girl about 7 and a little boy about 4. At the end of their meal a few waitresses brought the little girl some fruit with a candle in it and quietly sang her happy birthday. She blew it out and the little boy went ballistic! We assumed the parents might make this a learning experience for the little boy (it's not always about you, it's nice to celebrate other people, etc), but no! While the dad rightfully took the little boy away, and while they were gone the mom asked the waitress to bring a lighter so she could relight the candle! The little girl was so mad and the mom kept saying you'll get to eat all the fruit. So here it was her birthday and she had to wait for her brother to get back to eat her birthday fruit.

So my sister and I assumed the dad would not approve of the mom's behavior, but no when he came back they all sang happy birthday to the little boy and they the little boy ate the sister's fruit! The little girl seemed so sad and exasperated.

I suppose it's possible the little boy was on the autism spectrum or had some other sort of disorder, but to me his tantrum didn't seem any different than seeking attention or jealousy. Even if he was autistic it wasn't fair to the little girl on her birthday. They could have easily deflected the situation another way.

What the *bleep*?!!! First of all, all the poor little girl gets is FRUIT.. don't get me wrong, I love fruit, DD loves fruit... for for her birthday?! Yikes.

And the brother gets a huge fuss made over him, made his poor sister wait only to have her birthday fruit earen on her, and gets Happy Birthday sung to him when it's not his birthday?? Cripes. Just when you think you'd heard it all.

 

[Myothername]

Even if this snowflake had some type of disability who is to say she is still not manipulating? Just because you are autistic or have OCD doesn't mean you can't manipulate situations. I have seen 9 month old babies manipulate.

We have a neighbor with a snowflake child. They drive me crazy. When they come up to the pool mother and father will put water wings, life vest, and blow up ring on the child. He is 5!!! The 2 year olds are jumping off the diving board with just wings on. When he comes without his parents he swims with nothing and goes all over the pool.

 

[LuvOrlando]

Young girls do this sort of thing all the time. Boys do the "might makes right' nonsense to try and impose their will on the world and girls try to manipulate since they don't have the brawn. My DD is 11 and I talk with all her friends' Moms so the kids' behavior isn't weird. What was horrible was the way the mother totally dismissed her husband. Sometimes DH and I disagree but we find a compromise and when it comes to discipline I try to keep out of it because my DH is a much sharper tack then I am when it comes to our kids. If I was in that situation ALONE and one of my kids just preferred a different lane and all things were equal, admittedly I might move just because I want them to feel powerful in making day to day choices and would ask the reason for the preference. It's just my parenting style (which tends on the egalitarian unless disrespect shows itself then I'm hard). However, if my DH/ their Dad had an opinion his would trump theirs, sometimes a Mom just has to keep her mouth shut and let Dad take the lead. Assuming he's a good guy he's just as much a parent as she is and entitled to just as much power and voice.

I really don't like women who behave like the mother the OP described.

 

[FireDancer]

Leave it to the DIS to make everything about a disability. The vast majority of the time whatever behavior you are witnessing that could be explained by some disability is just a perfectly normal person (adult or child) acting like an idiot/brat/dimwit.

This is an example of a kid who will have a rude awakening once they arrive in the real world and I would love to witness the landing when she is brought down to Earth.

 

[dzorn]

I see this suggestion all the time "if you just leave then your kids won't misbehave" but many kids, especially kids with disabilities, are reinforced by leaving challenging situations. If you have a child like that, one who doesn't like the grocery store, then leaving is essentially making the tantrum pay off. It's no different than giving them the cookie they're crying for.

Yep for kids with disabilities the typical punishments don't necessarily work. DD got in trouble in school her punishment was missing recess the next day. DD is autistic likes to be by her self and hates to go out for recess if it is hot. I called school the next day and asked if they were trying to promote or punish the behavior. They understood after I had to explain.

For the other poster at our house if Dad says no it is no. If Mom says no it is no. If you ask one and don't like the answer don't ask the other because the answer is go to be Did you ask your Dad what did he tell you.

Given the little we know yep snowflake.

Denise in MI

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

What the *bleep*?!!! First of all, all the poor little girl gets is FRUIT.. don't get me wrong, I love fruit, DD loves fruit... for for her birthday?! Yikes.

And the brother gets a huge fuss made over him, made his poor sister wait only to have her birthday fruit earen on her, and gets Happy Birthday sung to him when it's not his birthday?? Cripes. Just when you think you'd heard it all.

Funny, I was thinking "wow, candles for breakfast, isn't that excessive -- can't she wait for the birthday cake for dinner?" But then maybe they were driving back that night and this was their only chance to celebrate at WDW. I think I'd probably have stuck the candle in a stack of pancakes, but maybe she likes fruit better.

However, I don't have a lot of sympathy for her (Note: I don't have any for him either). When you get something special, it doesn't become less special because your brother pretends to have it too. Being upset because your brother got something is total spoiled brat, whether it's your birthday or not. I wouldn't have relit the candles for him, because of the way he asked, but I also wouldn't have tolerated whining and carrying on from the older child about the fact that the little brother pretended to do something she did. I certainly wouldn't have told her "it's OK, because you get the fruit and he doesn't." The implication there is that causing pain to someone else, or rubbing it in to someone else is enjoyable.

 

[golfgal]

Yep for kids with disabilities the typical punishments don't necessarily work. DD got in trouble in school her punishment was missing recess the next day. DD is autistic likes to be by her self and hates to go out for recess if it is hot. I called school the next day and asked if they were trying to promote or punish the behavior. They understood after I had to explain.

For the other poster at our house if Dad says no it is no. If Mom says no it is no. If you ask one and don't like the answer don't ask the other because the answer is go to be Did you ask your Dad what did he tell you.

Given the little we know yep snowflake.

Denise in MI

But in this case the mom did exactly that, promoted her bratty behavior-disability or not, the girl got what she wanted.

 

[goodeats]

Birthday fruit?! Sorry it just struck me as funny. Not only does she have to wait for bratty little bro to fake blowout birthday candles...all she gets is fruit.

Well it was a character breakfast. I think the mom was into healthy eating because she had the waitress bring toast with no butter. I wasn't eavesdropping I swear! I'm just nosy ! I can respect not wanting your kids to have a cupcake after breakfast even if it was her birthday. Hopefully she got some cake later in the day.

 

[morethananyonex]

Leave it to the DIS to make everything about a disability. The vast majority of the time whatever behavior you are witnessing that could be explained by some disability is just a perfectly normal person (adult or child) acting like an idiot/brat/dimwit.

This is an example of a kid who will have a rude awakening once they arrive in the real world and I would love to witness the landing when she is brought down to Earth.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

"Hidden Disability" just seems like the new term for brat. Sorry if that offends people, I understand that there are some cases where the person truly is disabled, but having it brought up every single time someone does something wrong is not necessary.

 

[luvmy3]

No, Dad should have left bratty Sarah in the supermarket with her idiot daughter.

Real nice. Even a child with behavior issues (that the parents allow and enable) doesn't deserve to be called an idiot

Okay, I'm thinking you meant mother so I apologize if thats the case, and I agree

 

[Imzadi]

Leave it to the DIS to make everything about a disability. The vast majority of the time whatever behavior you are witnessing that could be explained by some disability is just a perfectly normal person (adult or child) acting like an idiot/brat/dimwit.

I was thinking the same thing. Is every "snowflake" thread going to be a debate about disabilities now?

 

[cheermom1]

Leave it to the DIS to make everything about a disability. The vast majority of the time whatever behavior you are witnessing that could be explained by some disability is just a perfectly normal person (adult or child) acting like an idiot/brat/dimwit.

This is an example of a kid who will have a rude awakening once they arrive in the real world and I would love to witness the landing when she is brought down to Earth.

We seem to agree a lot huh? I think the same thing. Especially about the last part about she is in for a rude awaking when she gets in the real world.

 

[Imzadi]

I see this suggestion all the time "if you just leave then your kids won't misbehave" but many kids, especially kids with disabilities, are reinforced by leaving challenging situations. If you have a child like that, one who doesn't like the grocery store, then leaving is essentially making the tantrum pay off. It's no different than giving them the cookie they're crying for.

So instead, you reinforce the behavior in which you spend an extra hour in a different line?

 

[AlleyKat]

Leave it to the DIS to make everything about a disability. The vast majority of the time whatever behavior you are witnessing that could be explained by some disability is just a perfectly normal person (adult or child) acting like an idiot/brat/dimwit.

This is an example of a kid who will have a rude awakening once they arrive in the real world and I would love to witness the landing when she is brought down to Earth.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

"Hidden Disability" just seems like the new term for brat. Sorry if that offends people, I understand that there are some cases where the person truly is disabled, but having it brought up every single time someone does something wrong is not necessary.

Thank you x 2!

 

[minkydog]

"Hidden Disability" just seems like the new term for brat. Sorry if that offends people, I understand that there are some cases where the person truly is disabled, but having it brought up every single time someone does something wrong is not necessary.

I am right there with you, and I have two kids with special needs. Neither of whom were allowed to act out in public, scream or throw things at the table, or in any way impinge on another patron's good time. If that means we get up and leave, then we get up and leave. Just because my boys have difficulty sitting still doesn't mean I have the right to let them run wild "because they're disabled, ya know." NO!

We started teaching our kids from an early age how to act at the table, in the store, at church, at Chuck E.Cheese, etc. Even Christian is expected to behave himself at the table. Especially Christian! Because it takes him so long to learn, so many repetitions of the *right* behavior for him to get it, we had to start from the age of 2. When he'd try to throw a cup or flip his plate, we pounced right on that. What might elicit an "awwww, ain't that cute" at age 2 will NOT be so cute at 22.

The same goes for non-disabled kids, too. IT's much easier to train kids when they're small. If parents don't do their job, then you have kids who don't have the grounding they need and they become attention-seeking, petulant tyrants.

 

[Val]

I got attacked by a snowflake mother this weekend. At a track meet...brought 5 people, so I brought 5 chairs....and snacks and water. Come back after watching my DS14 run.....family is sitting in our chairs, eating our snacks and drinking our water out of the cooler. Okay, willing to share. BUT....then their son starts throwing my fruit snacks at me and complaining because they are generic. THEN he pours MY open bottle of water all over my chair because "he is hot". I told him to knock it off or his a** was grass....okay, shouldn't have used the word a**....mom went ballistic. She started with "unlike you, I am a Christian" and went on to accuse me of cussing her son out (we must be terrible parents because that word isn't all that bad at our house), accusing him of criminal behavior, and attacking him. Told me she was keeping her DH close by "in case".......her hubby just sat there, and her son had moved to one of our dry chairs and continued to eat his way through our "generic" snacks.

Wanted to smack her....but that WOULD have been unChristian. Went for a walk and sat in the stands instead of the tent for the rest of the meet (About 4 hours). Calmed down, but have a terrible sunburn. Afraid if I went back I might say something I shouldn't....and this kid IS on OUR team....oh, and the kid is 15, almost 16....not a small child.


Guess my potty mouth (hey, it's a word you can say on TV) and my ungiving attitude make me a heathen.......well, so be it! Next time I am hiding my generic snacks!

 

[luvmy3]

I got attacked by a snowflake mother this weekend. At a track meet...brought 5 people, so I brought 5 chairs....and snacks and water. Come back after watching my DS14 run.....family is sitting in our chairs, eating our snacks and drinking our water out of the cooler. Okay, willing to share. BUT....then their son starts throwing my fruit snacks at me and complaining because they are generic. THEN he pours MY open bottle of water all over my chair because "he is hot". I told him to knock it off or his a** was grass....okay, shouldn't have used the word a**....mom went ballistic. She started with "unlike you, I am a Christian" and went on to accuse me of cussing her son out (we must be terrible parents because that word isn't all that bad at our house), accusing him of criminal behavior, and attacking him. Told me she was keeping her DH close by "in case".......her hubby just sat there, and her son had moved to one of our dry chairs and continued to eat his way through our "generic" snacks.

Wanted to smack her....but that WOULD have been unChristian. Went for a walk and sat in the stands instead of the tent for the rest of the meet (About 4 hours). Calmed down, but have a terrible sunburn. Afraid if I went back I might say something I shouldn't....and this kid IS on OUR team....oh, and the kid is 15, almost 16....not a small child.


Guess my potty mouth (hey, it's a word you can say on TV) and my ungiving attitude make me a heathen.......well, so be it! Next time I am hiding my generic snacks!

wait a minute, another family was eating and drinking your stuff?????

 

[aaarcher86]

I got attacked by a snowflake mother this weekend. At a track meet...brought 5 people, so I brought 5 chairs....and snacks and water. Come back after watching my DS14 run.....family is sitting in our chairs, eating our snacks and drinking our water out of the cooler. Okay, willing to share. BUT....then their son starts throwing my fruit snacks at me and complaining because they are generic. THEN he pours MY open bottle of water all over my chair because "he is hot". I told him to knock it off or his a** was grass....okay, shouldn't have used the word a**....mom went ballistic. She started with "unlike you, I am a Christian" and went on to accuse me of cussing her son out (we must be terrible parents because that word isn't all that bad at our house), accusing him of criminal behavior, and attacking him. Told me she was keeping her DH close by "in case".......her hubby just sat there, and her son had moved to one of our dry chairs and continued to eat his way through our "generic" snacks.

Wanted to smack her....but that WOULD have been unChristian. Went for a walk and sat in the stands instead of the tent for the rest of the meet (About 4 hours). Calmed down, but have a terrible sunburn. Afraid if I went back I might say something I shouldn't....and this kid IS on OUR team....oh, and the kid is 15, almost 16....not a small child.


Guess my potty mouth (hey, it's a word you can say on TV) and my ungiving attitude make me a heathen.......well, so be it! Next time I am hiding my generic snacks!

You are a lot nicer then I would have been if they were in your chairs and eating your snacks.

I would have kicked that mom in the shin.

 

[hereyago]

Val-


Sometimes, you have to have a "Come to Jesus" moment with people.