Guest charge for parking rumors

[lisaviolet]

You know, I wanted to respong to this post before but thought better of it.

Risking sounding mean, and I'm not: If the cost of parking, food and tickets is too much for your family then you should sell DVC and NOW.

DVC is for those that have the disposable income to cover ALL of the related trip expenses.

If $10 a day to park is stretching your budget you shouldn't have bought DVC in the first place.

I've always understood what I think is your point. Too many people buy beyond their means. And I've always appreciated the guidance. But "DVC is for" really irks me. Really? Any of us can know who "DVC is for" ?

But I suspect you're okay with that, eh Dumbo????? Irked and then smiling. What an effect....

 

[bicker]

It feels like a disney/DVC vacation is turning into getting less, but costing more.

I find that is true of every single vacation experience I research. Tourism is an industry, and in good times, their objectives are to price offerings so as to take advantage of the glut of disposable income in the economy.

 

[DVC Jen]

You know, I wanted to respong to this post before but thought better of it.

Risking sounding mean, and I'm not: If the cost of parking, food and tickets is too much for your family then you should sell DVC and NOW.

DVC is for those that have the disposable income to cover ALL of the related trip expenses.

If $10 a day to park is stretching your budget you shouldn't have bought DVC in the first place.

Excuse me?

The day you know how much DH and I make together, the day you know how much disposable income we have is the day you can decide if we should sell DVC or not. No - scratch that. That is our decision not yours.

The point I was making is that I personally feel we could vacation elsewhere for less $$$. And since we will for the next 8 years have DDs in college - if Disney decides to add a charge that we feel (and we have every right to our opinion) is ludicrious - we may just take that option. We could have paid our DVC mortgage off last month if we wanted to.

Next time you feel like telling someone else what they should do financially - you might want to stop and reconsider. You didn't sound mean - you sounded rude, assuming and basically just weren't minding your own business.

At least to me (and your reply was directed my way) you were.

I wasn't asking you nor ANYONE on this forum for financial advice. Nor would I ever.

Have a pleasant day.

 

[DVC Jen]

I don't think you're sounding mean dumbo, just don't agree with you for the most part. I'm sure there are some that cannot and should not be vacationing in wdw as much as they do......BUT.........
We always use disposable income to vacation, and I'm with DVC Jen on this. It's the principle of it. It feels like a disney/DVC vacation is turning into getting less, but costing more. It's about how we value where we spend our disposable cash (i.e. prefer to spend our "disposable" cash on a place where we feel we're not getting nickel'd and dime'd to death.....where quality remains (i.e. food/housekeeping etc).
So I surely don't think DVC Jen or I (or those who feel like us) cannot "afford" to vacation at wdw, but rather, we feel we want to stop and evaluate where we are getting the better deal for our money. Even though we use "fluff" money to vacation, I still prefer to use it wisely and in a way where I feel I'm getting the best use of it.

Exactly - we paid cash last June for a 7 night Disney cruise - not just one cabin but two (our DDs had thier own across the hall). Then we used our points for 5 nights at Vero. This was during a 3 week vacation period. We paid CASH for it all - we were not piling up debt.

What and how i choose to spend my vacation money on is my (and my DHs) choice. Do I find buying 4 adult tickets to be a lot - yes. Can we afford it - yes. Do I feel like paying for food at Disney for 4 adults is expensive - yes. Can we afford it - yes.

If we couldn't - we would NOT.

I simple can not believe the gall of some people to tell another how they should handle their finances - especially when they do not know that person - and even if they were best buds - it wouldn't be any of their business then either.

 

[dumbo71]

Surely you aren't suggesting that only those with an unlimited travel budget buy into DVC? Everyone budgets part of their income for recreation and travel.

You have been stating that DVC/Disney service and quality is degrading, but now you think it is OK to charge for parking that was included when we bought, even though our dues pay the upkeep?

Where did I say it is OK to charge DVC members for parking? Never said that, sorry. I DID say I don't believe it will happen and if it did it would be double dipping DVC members. I'm not sure where you got that I said it is OK to charge DVC members? Cash guests, fine, DVC NO.

I'm also not suggesting DVC is for those with an "unlimited" travel budget. I am suggesting and standing by the fact that if a nominal parking fee is going to mean less trips or no DVC trip at all then the person should sell. Trips to WDW may not be their most important thing to focus on at the moment.

As for the degrading standards that has nothing to do with this thread and I have not posted anything about that here. In fact I haven't posted about that in a while. I've moved on. There is only so many times you can beat that dead horse.

Not sure why you've attacked my post in this thread? I in fact agree with what you've posted here for the most part.

 

[dumbo71]

I wasn't asking you nor ANYONE on this forum for financial advice. Nor would I ever.

Have a pleasant day.

Ahhh,

But you were stating that you might have to cut down the number of trips due to the parking fee.

We all have the right to spend our dollars where we see fit. I have no issues with you deciding to spend your dollars elsewhere. The problem I do have is that you post on a public forum and then are surprised/offended by the answers given. I'll post a quote from your post when I'm done.

Do I think a POTENTIAL parking charge to DVC members stinks, sure but it won't happen. Chuck has pointed out that we already pay in our dues for this.

I'm not trying to offend or be the financial police but your post just made it seem like the fee would tip the scales of your budget. Sorry if I misinterpreted.


DVCJen states " Paying for food and tickets for four adults is tough for us as it is."

 

[DisneyMomOK]

If someone took a poll, I doubt if many would think that Disney would ever charge DVC owners a parking fee. It would 1) make present owners mad (and rightfully so, since it would be a new expense that would be required if you had a vehicle); 2) present DVC as more attractive to new purchasers if Disney could reference another positive reason to own, rather than stay at the resorts (on or off site); and 3) other timeshares would have a finger to point as how "friendly" Vistana or whatever were to owners, as opposed to Disney.

JMHO, but Disney would behoove themselves to charge parking at the resorts to keep out those folks that use whatever method they can to avoid parking fees at the parks. I pay for parking at the Loew's hotels at Universal and I see no reason why Disney guests (who haven't paid for a share of the Magic and are Members of DVC) shouldn't be charged a fee at WDW.

Sharon

 

[dumbo71]

I've always understood what I think is your point. Too many people buy beyond their means. And I've always appreciated the guidance. But "DVC is for" really irks me. Really? Any of us can know who "DVC is for" ?

But I suspect you're okay with that, eh Dumbo????? Irked and then smiling. What an effect....

Wow, this thing has exploded off topic. For the record despite how my post came off I am not OK with charging DVC members for parking.

I am also in complete agreement that should WDW and DVC continue this nickel and diming of guests that they will and likely should take thier money elsewhere.

I also do not think DVC should only be for the rich. I do have a problem with DVC financing individuals who they know full well cannot afford DVC. What does DVC care? They'll just take back the points when they default. DVC is also WRONG to not include DVC on credit statements. This allows those borderline individuals to further run up the debt. Not very responsible of DVC really. Theer bottom line is the only thing they care about and that is simply wrong.

The poster who is irate that I dared to question their finances???? I didn't question anything I simply stated that if what was written in her post was true then they should consider selling. I stand by that statement. My INTENT was never to judge or specualte about anyones finances, I went by what was posted.

Back on topic: Parking fee will not be applied to DVC memebrs. I'd be willing to bet that fact also. We have free valet now how can they charge to self park??? Not going to happen despite this pot stirring thread.

 

[DebbieB]

I wish they would charge non-WDW resort guests for parking at the resorts. It would stop (or lessen) the people who use them for free parking and go to the parks. When I've stayed at BWV in a standard view room, there was a steady stream of people parking and pushing strollers up the hill around 9:00am. Spoodles and the bakery are the only things open at that time, I doubt they were all going there. If you do eat in a restaurant, then get the parking validated.

 

[Chuck S]

I'm also not suggesting DVC is for those with an "unlimited" travel budget. I am suggesting and standing by the fact that if a nominal parking fee is going to mean less trips or no DVC trip at all then the person should sell. Trips to WDW may not be their most important thing to focus on at the moment.

For any family on a budget, that extra $10 for parking per day could have an impact on their vacation, and could mean the difference in the number of days they spend at Disney. After all, over a week it is nearly enough to pay for the dining plan for a day for 2 adults.

Does it make a difference? Of course it does, if Disney is double dipping on Dues and then Charging for parking. But to judge who should and who should not own DVC?

As for the degrading standards that has nothing to do with this thread and I have not posted anything about that here. In fact I haven't posted about that in a while. I've moved on. There is only so many times you can beat that dead horse.

Perhaps I misusunderstood your post but "If $10 a day to park is stretching your budget you shouldn't have bought DVC in the first place." seemed to imply that you were OK with them charging to park. Most people would consider that a drop in service, something that seemed to be a priority to you in other threads.

Not sure why you've attacked my post in this thread? I in fact agree with what you've posted here for the most part.

What attack? You gave a response to a poster concerned about the possibility "If the cost of parking, food and tickets is too much for your family then you should sell DVC and NOW.

DVC is for those that have the disposable income to cover ALL of the related trip expenses.

If $10 a day to park is stretching your budget you shouldn't have bought DVC in the first place

I questioned whether you feel only those folks with an unlimited travel budget should buy DVC, after all, that is sort of what this implies "DVC is for those that have the disposable income to cover ALL of the related trip expenses." And you're telling complete strangers, of whom you have no personal knowledge, that they should sell DVC and NOW.

 

[Doctor P]

I just want to make it clear, having just started reading this thread and not taking the time to read the other posts on this thread that I think it is a great idea for Disney to start: 1) considering parking rumors guests and charging them; or 2) charging guests for parking rumors. Not sure which the OP was referring to in the title, but either one is a high priority issue, IMHO.

 

[Halle]

I am getting so uspet reading these posts!!! My DH have rented and now own commercial property. There have always been maintenance fees (based on square footage), the fees are used for everything from lighting to pavement, lawn care and the list goes on. Our maintenance fees are paid to maintain the property whatever that may be and as owners we should be happy with how well the properties are maintained.
I don't think that we should be charged to park, that would be double dipping, nickel and diming etc. and our dues may come down initially but.... you know how that goes.

 

[bicker]

I am getting so uspet reading these posts!!!

That might be a good indication that it is time to unsubscribe to the thread. This thread has seemed to get a little mean-spirited, so I'll be doing so as well, for that reason.

 

[DebbieB]

I wouldn't be upset until it happens or if it happens.

Rumors are just that, rumors. There are many people on this board who have been planning to buy points at the Contemporary DVC for years and are still waiting for that one to come true. Of course that rumor is true, CM's said so!

 

[drakethib]

I am getting so uspet reading these posts!!! My DH have rented and now own commercial property. There have always been maintenance fees (based on square footage), the fees are used for everything from lighting to pavement, lawn care and the list goes on. Our maintenance fees are paid to maintain the property whatever that may be and as owners we should be happy with how well the properties are maintained.
I don't think that we should be charged to park, that would be double dipping, nickel and diming etc. and our dues may come down initially but.... you know how that goes.

I agree with Bick, Halle.

Sometimes these threads are for the weak hearted.

I am beginning to believe that some people are just trying to get everyone mad and/or cause trouble (i.e. trolling)

 

[lisaviolet]

Wow, this thing has exploded off topic. For the record despite how my post came off I am not OK with charging DVC members for parking.

I am also in complete agreement that should WDW and DVC continue this nickel and diming of guests that they will and likely should take thier money elsewhere.

I also do not think DVC should only be for the rich. I do have a problem with DVC financing individuals who they know full well cannot afford DVC. What does DVC care? They'll just take back the points when they default. DVC is also WRONG to not include DVC on credit statements. This allows those borderline individuals to further run up the debt. Not very responsible of DVC really. Theer bottom line is the only thing they care about and that is simply wrong.

The poster who is irate that I dared to question their finances???? I didn't question anything I simply stated that if what was written in her post was true then they should consider selling. I stand by that statement. My INTENT was never to judge or specualte about anyones finances, I went by what was posted.

Back on topic: Parking fee will not be applied to DVC memebrs. I'd be willing to bet that fact also. We have free valet now how can they charge to self park??? Not going to happen despite this pot stirring thread.

I was totally off topic. I did completely understand that you don't support the parking. My post had nothing to do with your thoughts on parking at all.

"DVC is for ....." just seems like such a pompous statement. To me, just did. I just would never think that I or any other person would be in a position to know who "DVC is for". And my last remark was that you seem like a confident man or woman with your thoughts and I was teasing, and smiling to myself, that you probably don't care that I was really irked by the comment.

 

[DVC Jen]

DVCJen states " Paying for food and tickets for four adults is tough for us as it is."

And this year (the first 6 months of 2007) it IS tough(er) - because we have just totally redecorated our living room,we are painting the exterior of our home, we are putting in new flooring in the kitchen and one of our bathrooms, we are buying DD 18 a car, we are having a large family party for our DDs graduation days before we leave for our vacation.

Tough for us means our savings is being knocked down a bit - not tough as in we can't put food on the table.


And what I said still does not give anyone a right to assume we need to sell DVC or tell us (or anyone -especially unsolicititied) what to do financially.

 

[Chuck S]

This thread is going way off-topic, please limit further comments to the rumor of paying for parking at the resorts.

 

[bobbiwoz]

I sincerely hope that WDW does not begin to charge guests who stay at resorts parking fees. I understand city hotels charging fees, but I don't like it. When Budget Travel had "Park at Swan or Dolphin and save WDW parking fees" as one of it's tips, well, we knew that would be the end of free parking at the S&D and it was. Because of the DVC discount at the ice cream place there and their cafeteria, used to be Tubby's, we would park and go to eat there sometimes. We don't anymore.

I think that free parking at all of WDW parks for on site guests is a perk, before DVC, we considered that as part of the reason we stayed on site. WDW does lots of studies and if the company decides to charge, there's nothing I can do about it, but I wouldn't like it one bit.

Bobbi

 

[DVC Jen]

Dumbo71 - Thank you.

I now have an incredible amount of respect for you.

(this is not sarcastic - but 100% heartfelt)

now - getting back to this Disney penny pinching stuff - i can see it now. First they charge us to park at the resorts and next they will charge me when I sneak pool towels back to my room.

I'm kidding...