Groups skipping through lines...

I'm totally fine with it.

people save spots for friends/family all the time, what's the big deal?

Movie theater seats, barstools, golf outings (you can register a foursome with one person), heck even ordering a bunch of sandwiches for your group can be considered "saving a spot" right? Do you get bent out of shape when the person ahead of you an Pinocchio's Village House orders food for more than just themselves? Or do you demand the other lunch patron should have to stand in the line like you if they want food?

It's really no big deal.
 
I'm totally fine with it.

people save spots for friends/family all the time, what's the big deal?

Movie theater seats, barstools, golf outings (you can register a foursome with one person), heck even ordering a bunch of sandwiches for your group can be considered "saving a spot" right? Do you get bent out of shape when the person ahead of you an Pinocchio's Village House orders food for more than just themselves? Or do you demand the other lunch patron should have to stand in the line like you if they want food?

It's really no big deal.

Actually you do know that during busy seasons, CMs will check your receipt and won't let you "save a table" until you have your food at many restaurants including Pinocchio Village Haus. Yes in general, it isn't a big deal. I have learned, however, that at theme parks multiple times where 5 people may not seem like a big deal. It can be the difference between getting the last seat in the theater for that showing or being the family to meet Pocahontas before her 20! minute break.

I also say things to people at the movie theater and I've even helped myself to their "saved" seats before.
 
It's not okay, but it's also not worth stressing over. It really doesn't happen often enough to worry about it. CMs are trying to be peacekeeprs. I nobody is upset about it, then they won't start anything. If a guest is upset about it and addresses that concern, then they have to try to smooth it over. Honestly, I don't mind official policy on this. I don't want WDW have to be so restrictive and punitive. Sure, some peopel are gonna be jerks, but boarding a ride an extra 30 seconds sooner isn't a big deal for me. They'll do what they do. I'll enjoy myself. Karma will reward us both accordingly.
I'm with you. I've rarely seen this happen, but on one of the few occasions it did, a man "held his ground" against one half of a group joining the other. It made everyone around him, including his own family, feel uncomfortable. How much faster did he get on the ride? His family was sent to numbers 6 & 7, and the other group was sent to 8 & 9 - all in the same load process. Totally not worth it.
 
Actually you do know that during busy seasons, CMs will check your receipt and won't let you "save a table" until you have your food at many restaurants including Pinocchio Village Haus. Yes in general, it isn't a big deal. I have learned, however, that at theme parks multiple times where 5 people may not seem like a big deal. It can be the difference between getting the last seat in the theater for that showing or being the family to meet Pocahontas before her 20! minute break.

I also say things to people at the movie theater and I've even helped myself to their "saved" seats before.

I re-read the original post and I wold say that 10 joining 2 is rude and yeah it would bother me. 2 joining 10 is no big deal. So I guess we all have our own personal "justice scale" lol

I agree with the last two posts though...totally not worth it to me to be bothered even by 10 joining 2, since I see it so rarely (actually, never seen that).
 

I'm with you. I've rarely seen this happen, but on one of the few occasions it did, a man "held his ground" against one half of a group joining the other. It made everyone around him, including his own family, feel uncomfortable. How much faster did he get on the ride? His family was sent to numbers 6 & 7, and the other group was sent to 8 & 9 - all in the same load process. Totally not worth it.
But if the first person, at the back of the line, had stopped them, it would have mattered.

I ride a scooter. It isn't easy to get by me. I have actually had people try to step over, or around, my scooter, while they are cutting in line. How crazy. Saying "no" to someone, says no to having someone's butt in my face. Yes, it is worth it.
 
I'm with you. I've rarely seen this happen, but on one of the few occasions it did, a man "held his ground" against one half of a group joining the other. It made everyone around him, including his own family, feel uncomfortable. How much faster did he get on the ride? His family was sent to numbers 6 & 7, and the other group was sent to 8 & 9 - all in the same load process. Totally not worth it.

What about the times like I mentioned. Once my mom almost let people cut in front of us and I stood my ground. We were literally the last 2 people let into the theater and my mom even said "Yeah, I guess it can be a big deal when people cut. I wanted to be nice, but I'm glad we didn't miss the show because they were rude."

What if a storm is on the horizon and that group goes in front of you and then the ride is stopped for lightening. There are LOTS of cases in which your experience can be harmed by letting people break the rules and get in front of you.
 
That's fine, and judging by the inactivity by others every time it happens, there are many who either share your attitude, are they're too afraid or non-confrontational to say anything.

I go a different way, and guess what....it doesn't get in the way of my vacation, either.

I really admire you for standing your ground against rude people - I would be really annoyed if 8-10 people joined 1 or 2 waiting in line, but probably wouldn't say anything to avoid screaming, fighting and scenes, as it would only be counter productive: I'd be the one feeling upset for the rest of the day and wouldn't be able to shake it off. (I'm not saying I'm happy about that...just know that's the way I am unfortunately, so it's more a selfish thing to just let it go.)

I am curious though...how far would you take the situation? What would you do if they were real jerks and wouldn't back down? In the example you gave, if the person flat out ignored you and their family/friends, started to threaten you physically or were somehow able to push their way in ahead of you despite your best efforts, would you force the CM to intervene at that point? Make a physical threat to them? Or let it go eventually? Again...just curious. :)
 
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I re-read the original post and I wold say that 10 joining 2 is rude and yeah it would bother me. 2 joining 10 is no big deal. So I guess we all have our own personal "justice scale" lol

I agree with the last two posts though...totally not worth it to me to be bothered even by 10 joining 2, since I see it so rarely (actually, never seen that).

I agree. I am non-confrontational so if I saw someone cut, I would grumble but probably would do nothing about it. But I am more willing to let it go if its one or two people joining a large group, rather than a large group meeting one or two people. There is absolutely no good reason why you sent Mom to stand in the line by herself and ALL four of you had to join her halfway through. One or two yes, but not everyone.

Also, from someone who sometimes has digestive issues due to anxiety, sometimes adults need emergency potty breaks too halfway through waiting on a 30-minute line.

EDIT to ADD: If I had a REAL emergency and had to leave the line knowing I would cut back, I would probably at least be polite and let the person behind me know what is going on and why I am leaving and coming back. I've done it before at like Subway for example, while waiting in line to get served.
 
I will never say anything again after how the Soarin CM treated me. Everyone in line around me was just as aggravated by the cutting. Everyone knows how out of control the Soarin line is. We had waited for RD for 40 minutes. We took the time to be there early, get a position and get to the ride. I hate the mob scene at Epcot RD. I guess that's why I said something.

I will keep my mouth shut from now on. It's not worth it.
 
I will never say anything again after how the Soarin CM treated me. Everyone in line around me was just as aggravated by the cutting. Everyone knows how out of control the Soarin line is. We had waited for RD for 40 minutes. We took the time to be there early, get a position and get to the ride. I hate the mob scene at Epcot RD. I guess that's why I said something.

I will keep my mouth shut from now on. It's not worth it.

How did the CM treat you?
 
It's one thing when it's like 2, even 5 people. I'm okay with that. It's totally different when it's like 10...20...possibly 30 people. We had this happen at a few rides during a February trip. There would be 2 people in line ahead of you and all of a sudden a large group of loud chanting teenage girls push past you and the CM just shakes there head like "How crazy is this!?!, but there is nothing I can do, they don't speak English" look.
 
I hate it also, but I don't like being touched by strangers which makes it almost impossible to stand my ground. The only time I speak up is when people behind me repeatedly hit me but by then I am fuming. I get once or twice on accident - everyone does that from time to time. I don't get why people have to stand back to back with me and keep nudging me with their rear or flicking their hair in my face. My husband had to get between me and a teenager in the space mountain line last time I snapped. I had already asked her once nicely... the second time I was apparently not so nice and I asked her boyfriend instead. :mad:

I've also had groups from other cultures purposely stand at my heels - literally up against me in the kilimanjaro line - as if they are daring me to stand my ground (my feeling, probably not theirs). In that instance an elder woman with them even started moving around me since that queue is so wide so I HAD to start body checking ugh... I held my tongue in that instance but it was really hard. I was getting run over!
 
I was in Soaring line once, and 2 kids ran past me. Then 1. Then 2 more. I clued in, moved the wheelchair and myself, blocking the queue. Another kid tried to get past, but I explained to him that I wouldn't tolerate line jumping. He said he wanted to get to his friends, so I suggested that they come back behind me and join them. The friends ahead told the CM and the CM had this kid move up and join them.
 
Group of people cutting in line is not acceptable. Something needs to be done to those illegal cutters. That's why Donald should make Disney great again.:rolleyes1
 
It's one thing when it's like 2, even 5 people. I'm okay with that. It's totally different when it's like 10...20...possibly 30 people. We had this happen at a few rides during a February trip. There would be 2 people in line ahead of you and all of a sudden a large group of loud chanting teenage girls push past you and the CM just shakes there head like "How crazy is this!?!, but there is nothing I can do, they don't speak English" look.

You're talking about the tour groups, typically from Central America (lots from Brazil). They are everywhere during the summer months. In my experience, they rarely do the line jumping thing. However, if we see them heading toward an attraction we're about to go to without a FP+, we will hustle to get in front of them. I have zero problems with them being there, it must a trip of a lifetime for them, but they sure do clog up the standby queue. And I can do without the chanting. On the rare occasion I have had them try to cut through my family, I am definitely not one to say nothing. While they may or may not understand English, they sure can read body language, a shake of the head and finger point. Not a rude finger mind you, but simply pointing to where they belong (at the back of the line).
 
That's fine, and judging by the inactivity by others every time it happens, there are many who either share your attitude, are they're too afraid or non-confrontational to say anything.

I go a different way, and guess what....it doesn't get in the way of my vacation, either.

Except that it obviously enraged you enough that you are still thinking about it now.

This is the number one Dis issue that always confounds me. A bunch of adults getting all up in arms about "line cutting" (an expression I stopped using at about age seven). You know all those people you are shaking your head at because "why don't people plan"? Those same people assume WDW works like almost every other place you would ever go, and that it is no big deal to save a spot for your spouse or kid in a line. (Although on the Dis it is always people "pushing" by you in chanting groups of 30.)
 
A friend of mine was telling me about a time she was in line for Soarin'. She said that she and her boyfriend were in line and a couple standing a few parties in front of them. Then, the couple's 3 teenage children pushed ahead in the line to go stand with their parents. The group behind the couple said something to teh family about the kids cutting in line and the parents responded about how they are a family and want to experience stuff together but the Soarin' line is always so long long and the kids wanted to ride other stuff and blah blah blah. Supposedly, the gentleman in front of the couple then said something along the lines of, "Oh, I didn't realize that family was allowed to cut to be with the rest of the family. That's my brother and his wife. And those behind him are my cousins. And that's my aunt. Hey you guys, come up here and join me!" and a bunch of people ended up getting back in front of the 3 teens as well as their parents.


Not that I really think that is the right way to handle it, but I thought it made for an amusing story and wonder what the faces of the family who cut looked like.
 
I will first state that we are a party of 3 and we enter lines together. If we have to leave a line, we just leave. This is partially b/c I used to be much bigger and DH still is a big guy, so the act of leaving a line is not easy. Especially at DL, where we started in the disney-world (so to speak). And the act of coming back into a line is nearly impossible, especially for DH.

We had one trip where each time we tried Jungle Cruise we got to this one spot and DS *had to go*. So we left. Tried again another day. Same issue. I can't recall if we ever got on JC that trip LOL. We just see little point in leaving somewhere, going elsewhere for the bathroom, then all the way back. I'd rather just switch it up. One day DS *had to go* just as we were being let through for Casey Jr (again, at DL). We coudln't physically go back. So once they opened the gates for us to board, we told the CM we had to go. The CM who saw us out the gate told us to come back to the exit spot and they would seat us. We considered it, but didn't do it. The line was quick enough when we felt like riding later.

So I don't "defend" because we do it. We simply don't do it.


You're welcome to feel that way about it, but I'm going to stand my ground and not get run over by folks who know they're not doing the right thing.

That sort of ground-standing has caused physical fights before at Disney. Have fun.

They know they're not doing the right thing.

Do they?

Or do they simply have different beliefs than you do?

Yes, this is absolutely ok. Be in line, have a bathroom emergency with a little one...no problem whatsoever to leave and take care of it, then resume your place in line with your group.

But, to simply get in line to hold a place for the rest of your group when they arrive....not ok at all.

So you're allowed to have bathroom problems after you get in line, but not before?

My DD 17 has a health condition that requires her to use the restroom every 20-30 mins. so at times she has to leave the line and then return. I'm sick of the dirty looks!

I'm sorry you get dirty looks.

This I do not have any issues with. I have a small child, so I totally understand the need to leave the line and come back.

The child in question is 17. What happens when she's 35? Will you think back to today, when she was 17, and remind yourself that it's likely still that health problem?

What about the 35 year olds you're not letting pass today? Can't you imagine that they might have long-standing issues, and that if someone posted about them when they were 17 you might have been OK with it?

Now, if you had a bathroom emergency before he entered the line, then you caught up with him later in line, that's kinda rude.

I don't see how.

He can even say it in Spanish in case they pretend not to understand

Can he say it in Korean? How about Tagalog? French? What about Kazakh?

What if they truly do not understand? Are they allowed to go in if you deem them actually not fluent in the language you speak? Or is it only when you think they are liars?

Still, worrying or get upset about someone "getting one over on me" or getting away with breaking the rules, isn't healthy or conducive to my vacation mindset. I've learned not to give a damn.

EXACTLY.

All I can say is never go to DL Paris, French and German cultures are famously queue-adverse.

Cultural differences are amazing!

I strongly recommend that many people answering here NEVER try to get on or off of an elevator in Korea.

I go a different way, and guess what....it doesn't get in the way of my vacation, either.

I hope that no one in your party is harboring any secret "I wish he wouldn't do that" feelings.

Because occasionally, generally when he's hungry but not speaking up about it yet (his mother had him on a diet when he was 3 years old and he has the worst emotional eating issues I can even imagine, and in his mind he's still "not allowed" to be hungry), DH gets a bit annoyed at perceived "cutters". And it drives me batty. Sometimes I ask him to stop. Sometimes I don't. But I always HATE IT.

If you had already been in line and needed to leave for a moment, you would have already known where your party was in line and wouldn't need them to flag you down.

Not necessarily. What if a bunch of people left the line after you did? What if your party is way further in, or further back, than you expected? What if you don't have good spatial awareness?

And we would have seen you leave. Especially if we are close to where you are heading.

There have been plenty of times when DH sees someone coming in and swears that they weren't there before, but I did notice them leave. And vice versa.

Actually you do know that during busy seasons, CMs will check your receipt and won't let you "save a table" until you have your food at many restaurants including Pinocchio Village Haus.

The person wasn't talking about sitting down. They were simply talking about ordering.

It's the same isue people used to freak out about at FP machines. They'd see 5 people and assume they would be waiting 5-people-worth. But then they would realize that the people had more than one ticket to do. It was based on an assumption, but they would get angry at the 5 people instead of at themselves for making an assumption.

They wanted everyone to be waiting in line so they would KNOW how many people were in front of them. Even though that slows down a line as each individual figures out how to use the machine. And makes no logical sense.

I've also had groups from other cultures purposely stand at my heels - literally up against me in the kilimanjaro line - as if they are daring me to stand my ground (my feeling, probably not theirs).

Definitely your feeling.

Other cultures just don't need the space Americans do. They'll stand right up on you; not because they are daring you to do something, but because that's what they do.
 
Except that it obviously enraged you enough that you are still thinking about it now.

This is the number one Dis issue that always confounds me. A bunch of adults getting all up in arms about "line cutting" (an expression I stopped using at about age seven). You know all those people you are shaking your head at because "why don't people plan"? Those same people assume WDW works like almost every other place you would ever go, and that it is no big deal to save a spot for your spouse or kid in a line. (Although on the Dis it is always people "pushing" by you in chanting groups of 30.)

"Enraged"? Hardly

I'm sorry. I thought this board was for discussing things.

Apologies for confounding you, but cutting, or skipping, or breaking or whatever term suits you has absolutely nothing to do with planning. It has to do with common sense and courtesy...something that is sorely lacking more and more as time goes by.
 














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