GRAND OPENING - GRAND CLOSING (Florida)

[wombat_5606]

I haven't found that to be an accurate source in all honesty. They still haven't updated the contact tracers where we have at least double what they state for my state and that was over a month ago so I imagine there's been more hired. I can't seem to match up their positivity rate either for my state, for my County in particular they aren't discriminating enough on the ICU beds because we share beds in the metro area, etc.

I'm sure for some places it's more accurate than others but for mine over time I just haven't found it to be the source to use for my particular area.

Where do you get your information from?

 

[Pyotr]

Wow. I see they did test more though according to the Orlando sentinel...coming in at 99,000 tests, also a record for the state.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.or...6xbdgbdjag7mdx7g3u4-story.html?outputType=amp
As this article states host, the virus is spreading more prolifically in only one other State, Arizona.

And sadly, there are several articles today reporting that the virus is now predictably moving beyond the young bar-hopping cohort and into nursing homes.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...cilities-hit-record?__twitter_impression=true

The numbers provided by the Sentinel are wrong. There were 142,000 tests reported. It is still bad, but I guess a little better?

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

The numbers provided by the Sentinel are wrong. There were 142,000 tests reported. It is still bad, but I guess a little better?

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf

It's certainly not any better. More testing is good. 15k cases is inexcusable.

 

[wombat_5606]

@Mackenzie Click-Mickelson

When I look at my state Covid19 information, they state they are using a rolling 7 day average. So, their information is not the same as what the CovidActNow people are using.

It's going to make a difference. If you are seeing different numbers, there could be myriad reasons for it. I just think this is a good easy, visual that seems to align with what is happening in the US. If you don't, that's your prerogative. I just won't agree with you that it's not accurate. They aren't making numbers up. They are getting information from reliable sources.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Stay Home WDW ad (Parody)

 

[cakebaker]

The new case positivity rate for Saturday was 11.2%, down from 18+% a few days earlier. That rate is the rate of new positive cases, divided by the total number of results (15,299/136,711). Inconclusive results are not counted one way or another.

If you use the 142,000 number, 15,300 divided by 142,000 = 10.8%.

Still too high.

It is still too high and those that take comfort in the positivity rate going down are fooling themselves. The number will go down when you run more tests. Running 11% or more when you test 134k people is insanely bad. In my state, where we are going to have a mandatory mask order next week, we're running around 10k tests a day with a pop of under 3%. I guess some people are so used to horrible numbers in Florida they've forgotten what bad means. There is no good news here.

 

[dvcgirl67]

The numbers provided by the Sentinel are wrong. There were 142,000 tests reported. It is still bad, but I guess a little better?

http://ww11.doh.state.fl.us/comm/_partners/covid19_report_archive/state_reports_latest.pdf

I wonder if some of these results are lagging...which has happened over weekends. But yeah, still really bad.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Stay Home WDW ad (Parody)

I saw that one....really well done, and IMO....right on point.

 

[JimMIA]

It is still too high and those that take comfort in the positivity rate going down are fooling themselves. The number will go down when you run more tests. Running 11% or more when you test 134k people is insanely bad. In my state, where we are going to have a mandatory mask order next week, we're running around 10k tests a day with a pop of under 3%. I guess some people are so used to horrible numbers in Florida they've forgotten what bad means. There is no good news here.

Absolutely, and that also illustrates my point about looking at one data point. Yeah, our positivity was 10-11% yesterday. But for the last TWO WEEKS, it's been at or close to 20%.

You have to look at the entire picture.

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

Absolutely, and that also illustrates my point about looking at one data point. Yeah, our positivity was 10-11% yesterday. But for the last TWO WEEKS, it's been at or close to 20%.

You have to look at the entire picture.

It's possible the positivity rate hasn't moved at all, just the testing.

 

[JimMIA]

I wonder if some of these results are lagging...which has happened over weekends. But yeah, still really bad.

There is always some lag and variance in reporting. If you look at the Channel 10 numbers I linked above, you'll see the big spread in test results from day to day.

 

[Pyotr]

It's certainly not any better. More testing is good. 15k cases is inexcusable.

Sure it is. It’s a lower percent of positives....

The numbers should be higher. I know a lot of people who have symptoms and can’t get tested because the sites are full.

If I didn’t live in Florida I certainly wouldn’t come here.

 

[JimMIA]

It's possible the positivity rate hasn't moved at all, just the testing.

People who only look at ONE number will never know.

 

[wombat_5606]

If I didn’t live in Florida I certainly wouldn’t come here.

I have a daughter that lives and works there, though. I'm half hoping she loses her job. She's in close contact with people in her job and I hate it.

She's been thinking of changing careers and I would be more than happy for her to come home for the next year while she figures it out. If any employer wants to know why there was a gap in her resume, I've got the answer.....I was trying to survive Florida by leaving the state!

 

[JimMIA]

I have a daughter that lives and works there, though. I'm half hoping she loses her job. She's in close contact with people in her job and I hate it.

She's been thinking of changing careers and I would be more than happy for her to come home for the next year while she figures it out. If any employer wants to know why there was a gap in her resume, I've got the answer.....I've was trying to survive Florida by leaving the state!

Where does she live, and what kind of work is she in?

 

[wombat_5606]

Where does she live, and what kind of work is she in?

I will tell you she lives in Tampa, but I can't tell you what kind of work. The job is too specific, that she could be easily identified.

 

[JimMIA]

I will tell you she lives in Tampa, but I can't tell you what kind of work. The job is too specific, that she could be easily identified.

OK. I haven't been following Hillsborough County's numbers but I don't think they've been hit as badly as other urban areas -- certainly not as bad as Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade.

Hopefully she will stay safe.

 

[wombat_5606]

OK. I haven't been following Hillsborough County's numbers but I don't think they've been hit as badly as other urban areas -- certainly not as bad as Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade.

Hopefully she will stay safe.

Thanks. I appreciate that.

I've followed their numbers but haven't followed the ones you mention. I don't think they have been hit as hard, but they are in worse shape than I like. I just have to hope for the best.

She's a strong, healthy girl with a science background, so I know she's taking good precautions, but her job puts her in risky positions that I feel aren't necessary right now. She's sent emails to her bosses and they have implemented some of her recommendations, but it's the people she can't control that are the largest problem.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Where do you get your information from?

My county's Dashboard (daily updates), my state's Dashboard (though that is updated MWF once updated the numbers are broken down daily), my local news which heavily covers my metro (daily updates). Pretty much what is considered the main hospital system for our metro gives their daily update, etc.

@Mackenzie Click-Mickelson

When I look at my state Covid19 information, they state they are using a rolling 7 day average. So, their information is not the same as what the CovidActNow people are using.

It's going to make a difference. If you are seeing different numbers, there could be myriad reasons for it. I just think this is a good easy, visual that seems to align with what is happening in the US. If you don't, that's your prerogative. I just won't agree with you that it's not accurate. They aren't making numbers up. They are getting information from reliable sources.

Both my state and county gives the daily numbers. I do appreciate there's a simplicity to it but that doesn't do a whole lot if what I'm getting is an inaccurate reflection of the situation which I should note goes both ways. You wouldn't want to look at that and say "oh gee this state is doing well" and someone comes along and says "ehh...yeah no not really".

I never said they were making the numbers up and I dislike that would be thrown out there as if that's the reason I would have an objection. The number of contact tracers for my state I wrote about that issue back on June 12th on the DIS with respects to this source. That number hasn't budged since and back then we had double what they stated at that time; I can only imagine how many we have now. I'm not making that up. Despite the text of "updated as of July whatever" they haven't changed the contact tracing numbers for the state at all and that's just an example.

I've got to run now for lunch (sorry pre-arranged plans) so I'll politely leave it at that and move on in the discussion

 

[RamblingMad]

It is still too high and those that take comfort in the positivity rate going down are fooling themselves. The number will go down when you run more tests. Running 11% or more when you test 134k people is insanely bad. In my state, where we are going to have a mandatory mask order next week, we're running around 10k tests a day with a pop of under 3%. I guess some people are so used to horrible numbers in Florida they've forgotten what bad means. There is no good news here.

You want the rate to be 5% or less, so FL is still not testing enough, which is insane given the test numbers.