Gotta stop reading the dis

[Schmeck]

What I've found interesting about the OP's post is that over on the disABILITIES community forum, there's a lot of complaining/venting about the unfairness of the world towards the special needs community, but there just doesn't seem to be a tolerance of the opposite. It's one reason why I stopped posting on that forum, the hypocrisy was pathetic. There were a lot of complaints about the 'neurotypicals', and links/posts about threads in other forums, which I was informed by mods wasn't allowed?

 

[FireDancer]

What I've found interesting about the OP's post is that over on the disABILITIES community forum, there's a lot of complaining/venting about the unfairness of the world towards the special needs community, but there just doesn't seem to be a tolerance of the opposite. It's one reason why I stopped posting on that forum, the hypocrisy was pathetic. There were a lot of complaints about the 'neurotypicals', and links/posts about threads in other forums, which I was informed by mods wasn't allowed?

Neurotypicals, really? That's a new one. Isn't that just a longer way to say normal?

 

[Hollywoodhaha]

I'm sorry, but I need to stop you right there. Where exactly is your proof? I suppose in this exact thread that you have seen many times before a charming, witty and incredibly good looking poster named Wall-E1...

did not believe your statement in those previous threads also.

A new years party in which plenty of tags were received just came to mind.
Wall-E1, forever a YAGE expert.

 

[C.Ann]

I'm sorry you're having a horrible time/day/experience. I hope it gets better.

I'll second that - and add that, yes - it can get rough here.. Sometimes downright brutal..

I've taken breaks in the past - maybe a little one would be helpful for you right now..

And thank you SO much for giving those children a wonderful Mom..

 

[monkeyboy]

I really want bacon....or something with bacon in or on it.
j/s

 

[YodaGirl]

I really want bacon....or something with bacon in or on it.
j/s

Mmm...bacon...

I just got a coupon for bacon cheddar fries at Rally's.

I can't imagine how much I'd have to run to counteract those.

 

[Ceila]

Because it is a violation of the board rules to get into a personal debate with another poster, and going back and pointing out these inconsistencies requires that level of personal confrontation. In other words, it is a direct violation of the Dis forum rules, and it is broken every day.

Wow, that's some pretty creative spin you've put on the forum rules there!

Why is it broken every day? Because people on the Dis want to get personal - they want to tear down other posters. What other reason could you have for going back and looking for a way to attack a poster with content from a previous post, sometimes made YEARS before?

No, the vast majority of people don't look for ways to tear down other posters. But that doesn't mean that they like hypocrites, either. When I see someone posting about other person's previous posts, it's usually to call out their hypocricy.

In intelligent debates, the points are discussed, not the person making the point. One person can argue one side of an issue today, and the opposite side tomorrow. It is not important which side you argue - just the points made. But not on the Dis.

The flaw in your argument here is that this is NOT a formal debate board. It's a discussion board, where people discuss things and sometimes even remember what their fellow posters have written in the past. If you're looking for something different, I'm sure that there are boards out there that are more to your liking. But it seems that you are trying to convince everyone that this board should be what YOU want it to be.

 

[DebIreland]

Sure sounds like it. I pulled a YAGE a few months ago when I felt like I was being overflamed for an issue with my teenagers. I left, lurked awhile. Someone on here (can't remember who) told me to thicken up my skin and that's stuck with me. I'm not gonna say I won't get upset in the future. But I can understand where the OP is coming from. There are some on here that I should put on ignore, but I haven't. Some days it's just too much to take. But I'm doing a whole lot better now.

Is that an option here? (She asks excitedly )

 

[crashbb]

Is that an option here? (She asks excitedly )

It is indeed (doesn't help if people quote the poster that you have on ignore though).

Go to your "User CP". On the left hand side, about halfway down "Your Control Panel", choose "Edit Ignore List". Type in the name of the poster that you'd like to ignore and presto changeo!

 

[hambirg]

OMG! I you guys!

I'm going to print and frame this just so I can remember that I am loved enough to have a Dis board stalker.

Creepily, the upside down lady closely resembles me (read: my younger, thinner "me" of my youth). Is there something you're not telling me robinb? Can you see me?
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[Anjelica]

I've never understood why folks got really upset over anomoyous (sp)postings on an internet forum.

since I've been here, I've been flamed, called stupid when I made a mistake on a piece of history, told I was unpatriotic because the airport scanners didn't bother me, told I was a welfare queen who only wanted some thing from the government because of the way I voted, and called a liar. but I've also been thanked for some advice, laughed with many nice people, gotten great advice and read post that affirmed my belief that there are many nice people out there.

Take the good with the bad.

P.S. I try and take a break from the dis and the internet every weekend though. Some times it helps with the mental attitude to unplug.

Well put Eliza!!! I think sometimes just walking away and taking a breather really does help.

OP - I can sympathize with your frustrations but there really are alot of nice people on the DIS and they more than make up for the not so nice DISers. There are always going to be folks who tell you are wrong because you may have an opinion on something (the recent Avatar thread on the Theme Park forum was a fun one).

 

[goofyernmost]

Personally, I never intend to attack an individual, just their thoughts. And that would be only when I think that their thoughts are massively out of line. (i.e. people with disabilities should just get on the bus with everyone else). Something like that shows me the total lack of understanding the mechanics of providing services to the disabled. Unfortunately, when you attempt to correct a mistaken statement it is impossible to not have it connected with the poster that actually introduced the idea. Then they think that they have been attacked personally. How can I attack someone that I don't even know. I can attempt to correct a misconception, but it isn't meant to do anything more than not let that be the last thought that everyone sees. Incorrect statements need to be challenged and there is no other way but to correct it.

 

[DebIreland]

It is indeed (doesn't help if people quote the poster that you have on ignore though).

Go to your "User CP". On the left hand side, about halfway down "Your Control Panel", choose "Edit Ignore List". Type in the name of the poster that you'd like to ignore and presto changeo!

Oh sorry crashbb, did you say something?

THANK YOU!! My finger muscles will be getting plenty of clicking exercise tonight.

 

[SaraJayne]

OMG! I you guys!

I'm going to print and frame this just so I can remember that I am loved enough to have a Dis board stalker.

Creepily, the upside down lady closely resembles me (read: my younger, thinner "me" of my youth). Is there something you're not telling me robinb? Can you see me?
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Am I the only one that wants to turn my monitor upside down to see what the rest of the cover says?

 

[Luv Bunnies]

Neurotypicals, really? That's a new one. Isn't that just a longer way to say normal?

Um, no... neurotypical is not a "new one" to the autism community. It refers to people who are "neurologically typical," or those whose neurological development falls into the "typical" range, rather than on the autism spectrum. Who is to say that autistic people are not "normal?" Their neurological development is not necessarily "typical" when looking at the population as a whole, but it doesn't mean autistic people are not "normal."

Getting back to the OP's post, perhaps we should all take a step back and read between the lines? She's obviously got her hands full with two disabled kids, and she is saddened by remarks she's read on these boards about disabled people. Rather than turning it into a big joke, how about giving her a little understanding and support? Yes, her post came across to many as an attack, but think about what she's dealing with on a daily basis, what she's read here, and determine whether her thoughts have a least a little bit of merit? Sometimes it's more productive to focus on the message rather than the way in which it was delivered.

 

[crashbb]

Um, no... neurotypical is not a "new one" to the autism community. It refers to people who are "neurologically typical," or those whose neurological development falls into the "typical" range, rather than on the autism spectrum. Who is to say that autistic people are not "normal?" Their neurological development is not necessarily "typical" when looking at the population as a whole, but it doesn't mean autistic people are not "normal."

Typical and normal are synonyms. So, if you are saying something/someone is not typical then you are saying that they are not normal. If it makes people feel better, have at it, but you are playing with word definitions to suit your (general your) desires.

 

[sparklynails23]

Anyone here think of Eric Cartman when they read this thread??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaPysXyndJ4

Abby Lee, is that you? From your siggie and area, I'm thinkin' it might be.

OP-- I'm sorry. I do think our schools are spending too much money providing medical care and therapy instead of educating. I don't think that's what public education was intended to do. Medical issues should be paid with insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid, and therapy should take place at a doctor's office.

School has also become a federal food program-- breakfast, lunch, an afterschool snack, and a backpack for the weekend, and I don't think that was the intent of public education either. So, sue me.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, but our opinions just differ.

 

[Hannathy]

Typical and normal are synonyms. So, if you are saying something/someone is not typical then you are saying that they are not normal. If it makes people feel better, have at it, but you are playing with word definitions to suit your (general your) desires.

Thank You was going to say the same thing but you said it better.

 

[Hannathy]

OP-- I'm sorry. I do think our schools are spending too much money providing medical care and therapy instead of educating. I don't think that's what public education was intended to do. Medical issues should be paid with insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid, and therapy should take place at a doctor's office.

School has also become a federal food program-- breakfast, lunch, an afterschool snack, and a backpack for the weekend, and I don't think that was the intent of public education either. So, sue me.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, but our opinions just differ.

 

[kirstenb1]

Abby Lee, is that you? From your siggie and area, I'm thinkin' it might be.

OP-- I'm sorry. I do think our schools are spending too much money providing medical care and therapy instead of educating. I don't think that's what public education was intended to do. Medical issues should be paid with insurance, Medicare, and Medicaid, and therapy should take place at a doctor's office.

School has also become a federal food program-- breakfast, lunch, an afterschool snack, and a backpack for the weekend, and I don't think that was the intent of public education either. So, sue me.

I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, but our opinions just differ.

No hurt feelings here. Just lots of lobbying in my state to get insurance to actually pay for therapies. Our policy, through Cigna, denies coverage to children who are "developmentally delayed". For example, if you were born with cerebral palsy, guess what, you get no coverage for physical or occupational therapy. As much as I hate Cigna, to be fair, most major medical denies therapy to developmentally delayed children.

If great aunt Ida has a stroke, guess what, her occupational and physical therapy is covered. If your child is born with a disability, the odds are greatly against him/her receiving therapy reimbursed by insurance. Thank goodness more states are recognizing this disconnect and passing insurance mandates. If a young child receives therapy, it can greatly affect his/her outcome as an adult to become a functioning, contributing member of society.