Going to WWoHP...have never been to US/IOA

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I have never been to US/IoA so I have no clue as to the how/what/when of it all. I will be taking my DD to visit the WWoHP for a day in mid March. I would really like some advice on everything....when to be there, where to go, what to do etc.

I'm a WDW vet so this is making me a little nervous....I can plan a WDW trip in a few hours in detail but not knowing anything about IoA is freaking me out. I'm a micro planner and I have no plans right now.


Please walk me through it :worship:
 
Universal Orlando Resort is north of WDW, right next to Interstate 4. You can see many of the taller rides from the interstate. The Resort is home to two (2) theme parks, three (3) onsite resorts, and Citywalk, a nightime entertainment area very similar to Downtown Disney.

The two theme parks are Islands of Adventure and Universal Studios. Universal Studios opened in 1990 and the resort quickly expanded to open Citywalk, the Portofino Bay Hotel (1st on site resort) and Islands of Adventure in 1999. Since then, they've added 2 more on site hotels: Hard Rock Hotel and Royal Pacific Resort.

The Wizarding World of Harry Potter is a themed area inside Islands of Adventure. It is an area with a themed Hogsmeade Village, Hogwarts Castle, Hagrid's Hut, Hogwarts Express and the Three Broomsticks. It also has shops, such as Honeydukes, Dervish and Banges, Zonko's, Owl Post, Filch's Emporium, and Ollivander's (small show where the wand chooses the wizard).

The three attractions inside the World are Dragon's Challenge, Flight of the Hippogriff and Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey.

Dragon's Challenge is a dueling inverted roller coaster, meaning that their are two DIFFERENT tracks that move all around and come very close to each other. One track is the Chinese Fireball, the other is the Hungarian Horntail. Both tracks go upside-down 5 times and the height requirement is 54 inches for both. Loose articles are not permitted, and their are free lockers located inside the Hogwarts Express train station for this.

Flight of the Hippogriff is a small coaster right next to Hogwarts Castle. It is themed to be learning how to approach a hippogriff. The line takes you past Hagrid's Hut and near the ride is BuckBeak, who you bow to, who then bows back. The height requirement is 36 inches, and loose articles ARE permitted.

Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey is a ride which takes place inside Hogwarts Castle. The ride is a dark ride, with combined live sets, and domed screens, and audio animatronics. You will go come face to face with a dragon, Aragog, spiders who spit at you, the Whomping Willow, Several dementors, and more. If you've ever been on Sum of all Thrills at EPCOT, it uses that kind of ride system, but the robotic arms move around on a track, and you DO NOT go upside down. The ride is the only ride of its kind in the world, and it already has won several awards. It's a must see. The height requirement is 48 inches and loose articles are NOT permitted. Free lockers are located just inside the castle on the right.

The queue for the ride takes you through Hogwarts Castle and you see the dungeons, the mirror of erised and the greenhouses. Then when you go back in the castle you see moving portraits, Dumbledore's office, defense against the dark arts classroom, the gryffindor common room. You see other smaller things as well, such as statues and the house points counters, and Dumbledore and Harry, Ron and Hermione make an appearance via hologram.

The area is small, but very intricately themed. There are other areas in Islands of Adventure as well, such as Jurassic Park, Toon Lagoon, Marvel Superhero Island, Suess Landing and Lost Continent. Any other questions, let us know!

One more thing. Don't go in expecting Disney. It is the same theme level, guest service, and cleanliness level as Disney, but some things are different, such as the locker situation on some rides (mostly roller coasters).

I forgot to add the Express option. Years ago, Universal had the same system that Disney has, it was called Universal Express. They since did away with that, and offered an up-charge program to skip the lines, using the same name. You now have to purchase an additional add on to your ticket. Prices vary per day, ranging from $19.99 up to $59.99. The price is determined based on how crowded the park is. They are per person and non refundable. If you do plan on buying them, wait until you're in the park to purchase them to look at the crowd level.

However, if you purchase them, they are good at putting you in the Express line (very similar to Disney's FastPass Line) ONLY ONCE per attraction with Express*. They will get scanned prior to you entering the line, and if you come back to that ride again in the Express Pass line, it will deny you. It's like buying a FastPass for every ride in the park for everyone in your family, for any time.

You may be wondering why anyone would stay onsite for only 2 theme parks? The answer is UNLIMITED Express Access. If you stay onsite at any of the 3 onsite hotels, your room key gets you unlimited access to the Express Pass lines. Want to ride Dragon Challenge 6 times in the Express Line? Go for it. There is no limit to the amount of time you can use those room keys as Express, at every attraction*.

*Rides and shows that operate with Express are EVERY ride and show in both parks EXCEPT for the following:
Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit - Roller Coaster at Universal Studios
Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey
Pteranadon Flyers - small coaster in Jurassic Park at Islands of Adventure

Parking Situation

Once you're on Universal Property, follow the dark blue signs to Theme Park Parking. You may be wondering why you're parking away from the parks instead of right next to them? All parking for the parks put you in 6 story parking structures. (The largest ones in the world actually). You then walk through CityWalk, then choose whether you want Islands of Adventure of Universal Studios. Go straight for IOA, turn right for USF. Also, Preferred Parking is not worth it, so don't do it. It only puts you on the same level as the walkway towards CityWalk, so you don't have to take escalators. However, you still have to walk through Citywalk. If you have problems with walking, you can do Valet Parking, which is $5 more than the Preferred Parking price.
 
We did both parks in a day a couple of weeks ago. It was a really long day, and we didn't do the two big coasters because DD wasn't tall enough. The Express pass was worth its weight in gold - we never could have done the parks in one day without it, at least not during a busy time. In the morning, everyone heads straight for Harry Potter, so we did the opposite - we did all of Islands of Adventure except HP then we did Universal and then returned to Islands of Adventure for just HP in the evening. The crowds were definitely thinner in the evening. We were able to ride Forbidden Journey twice (INCREDIBLE ride), see the rest of WWOHP, and eat at The Three Broomsticks.

We did the character breakfast at Confisco Grill because I wanted to see the Grinch. The characters were great, but the food was just so-so.
 
WOW :worship: excellent info. You could have saved me quite a bit of research time...thanks.


How about a plan for the day. The goal to to see the HP area mainly. Can you give me a play by play of how to best go about seeing the HP area? I guess what I'm meaning is a touring plan.

I should say that we don't like flipping roller coasters generally so I'm a little concerned that there won't be a ton for us to do after HP.
 

WOW :worship: excellent info. You could have saved me quite a bit of research time...thanks.


How about a plan for the day. The goal to to see the HP area mainly. Can you give me a play by play of how to best go about seeing the HP area? I guess what I'm meaning is a touring plan.

I should say that we don't like flipping roller coasters generally so I'm a little concerned that there won't be a ton for us to do after HP.

If flipping coasters are not your thing, then you only lose two rides: Dragon Challenge and Hulk. Nothing else goes upsidedown.

For a plan of attack, GET THERE EARLY. If the park is scheduled to be open at 9, be at the gates by 815. There will be people waiting, and they usually open the gates around 845-855. 95% of the crowds will be heading to WWOHP, especially Forbidden Journey or Ollivander's. These two spots build up lines the fastest. There will already be people in WWOHP, as anyone staying at an onsite hotel gets to enter WWOHP at 8am.

To avoid a Long Line, get butterbeer in the Hog's Head Pub. The line is shorter there than at the main butterbeer cart.

If you really want to maximize your experience, head to Ollivander's first (wand show), then head to Forbidden Journey. If the line is too long for your liking, use the single riders line. You'll skip 90% of the cool stuff, but will get on the ride FAST (I've never waited more than 10 mins in the single rider line). After that, you can ask one of the Hogwarts Students about the Castle Tour Line. That line allows you to see most of the castle at your own pace. you can take as much pics/vids as you want without being hurried along.

At the least, walk through the Dragon Challenge queue. You can skip out at the end, as there are some cool props and decor in the queue.
 
Tim -

That's the best write up I've seen on general information on Universal.
:thumbsup2
 
If flipping coasters are not your thing, then you only lose two rides: Dragon Challenge and Hulk. Nothing else goes upsidedown.

For a plan of attack, GET THERE EARLY. If the park is scheduled to be open at 9, be at the gates by 815. There will be people waiting, and they usually open the gates around 845-855. 95% of the crowds will be heading to WWOHP, especially Forbidden Journey or Ollivander's. These two spots build up lines the fastest. There will already be people in WWOHP, as anyone staying at an onsite hotel gets to enter WWOHP at 8am.

To avoid a Long Line, get butterbeer in the Hog's Head Pub. The line is shorter there than at the main butterbeer cart.

If you really want to maximize your experience, head to Ollivander's first (wand show), then head to Forbidden Journey. If the line is too long for your liking, use the single riders line. You'll skip 90% of the cool stuff, but will get on the ride FAST (I've never waited more than 10 mins in the single rider line). After that, you can ask one of the Hogwarts Students about the Castle Tour Line. That line allows you to see most of the castle at your own pace. you can take as much pics/vids as you want without being hurried along.

At the least, walk through the Dragon Challenge queue. You can skip out at the end, as there are some cool props and decor in the queue.

That's great...thanks. Exactly the type of info I want. Going in the single rider line for anything will not be an option...my DD is only 11 and she will not ride anything alone. If we ride FJ and want to ride again is it best to do it immediately or wait until later in the day?

I really should have said that we aren't that crazy about coasters in general. I can't take the big drop. Having said that though, I have been on Tower of Terror a few times and liked as well as Rock N Roller coaster. RnR is in the dark so I can't see it coming :rotfl2:
 
Thanks! Theme parks are kind of my passion (graduated with a degree in theme park management lol) so I frequently visit them several times a week, and have work experience in almost all of them.
 
Dancin.... I'm right there with you. Been to WDW many times, but now my teenagers want to visit WWoHP and I'm panicky because I don't know what I'm dealing with at US!!!

We're looking to go to Orlando week of Memorial Day with 4 days at WDW and 1 day at Universal. I have TGM's best days for best parks, but I'm trying to add in what's the best day to go Universal. My kids just want to see the HP attractions, so we'll just be visiting IAH. We are used to getting up early being there for RP and hitting major attractions before noon at WDW, so we'll do that for Harry, too.

What would you guys recommend is the best day of the week to visit IAH during Memorial Day week? If we are only doing IAH one day, is it worth it to stay onsite or is it a necessity to see everything?

I was initially thinking of doing IAH on Sunday or Monday staying onsite or at a partner hotel, then moving to Dolphin using SPG points/govt rate OR doing Disney first then moving to Universal when the Gay Day/Star Wars weekend crowds would be coming. But then I thought that maybe we should just stay at WDW all week and just drive over to IAH mid-week when crowds would possibly be lessr and buy the express pass if need be ??? I really like this idea, but will we get to see enough of HP without the unlimited express pass???

I know some schools are out by then, but I know that not all...

Please advise??!!!???
 
Express pass only works on two rides at WWoHP and that is Dragon's Challenge and Flight of Hippogryff. The Forbidden Journey ride in Hogwarts castle does not take Express Pass at all as of now. Really, the express pass doesn't do you all that much good in the WWoHP. Most of the longest waits are for FJ and the shops, especially Ollivander's Wand Shop(waits here can hit 2 hours well before noon).

The main advantage when it comes to Potter when staying onsite or on the Potter package at an Partner hotel is the one hour early entry. Basically it's Extra Magic Hour for the WWoHP, so you get into the land one hour before the regular day crowds. You only get this privilage by staying at one of the 3 on site hotels or if you stay at a Partner hotel on the Harry Potter package(you must have the package, otherwise just staying at a partner hotel does not give you early entry access).

Keep in mind that in busy times there is often a standby line just to get into the WWoHP(this week the standby line was a steady 2 hours to get into the land), you then have to wait in the lines for the attractions. Getting to the park before opening gives you an advantage, even if you do not to early entry, you will be some of the first guests outside of the early entry people allowed in. Universal usually lines non-package/resort guests up on the other side of WWoHP opposite of the side the onsite/package guests use to enter and hold them there until officially opening then let them in. This is the best bet on busy weeks if not staying on the package/onsite. Get there early and get in that line ASAP.
 
How intense would you say FJ is? For those of you familiar with WDW, we have no problem with Space Mountain, Rockin Roller Coaster or Exhibition Everest. Is it safe to assume we'll do okay with FJ? What about the other WWoHP coaster? I don't recall the name of it.
 
If you can handle those three, you should be fine with Forbidden Journey. Mix in a bit of Soarin and you've got it. FJ has a lot of things that go "BOO".

Dragon Challenge is more intense than RnR: 5 inversions per coaster, no launch though.
 
Does Dragon Challenge have a big drop at the beginning? That I can't handle. However, if my DD wants to ride I'm going to have to suck it up. Licky for me she's not overly adventurous. She won't ride Everest and it took my ages to get her to ride SpaceM.
 
Does Dragon Challenge have a big drop at the beginning? That I can't handle. However, if my DD wants to ride I'm going to have to suck it up. Licky for me she's not overly adventurous. She won't ride Everest and it took my ages to get her to ride SpaceM.
Well...both tracks do have a drop at the beginning since it's not a launch coaster but I don't think either one is big. On the blue side there is more airtime coming down the first hill but the orange side has kind of a sloping drop...neither are bad. You can watch them before you decide to ride.
 
Does Dragon Challenge have a big drop at the beginning? That I can't handle. However, if my DD wants to ride I'm going to have to suck it up. Licky for me she's not overly adventurous. She won't ride Everest and it took my ages to get her to ride SpaceM.

I think she'll take one look at that coaster and say no thanks. However take her through the queue, there are some props from the movie. Not as elaborate as Hogwart's but still neat. I'd say take the tour of the WWOHP on the Universal site. If she has been afraid of some of the Disney coasters? This may be too intense. You sit and feet dangling you go upside down. There is a DisUnplugged video of it on YouTube. Watch the video.:scared1: it was taken while ON the ride!
Now the Hippogriff is fun but kind of babyish, still a good view and you get to interact with Buckbeak briefly, see Hagrid's hut.
 
I have been trying to find some really good US reviews or forums etc....
Not having much luck....

THIS Thread is SOOOOOOOO Me !!!

Please keep the information coming....

First time US/IoA visitors too; we are WDW Pros (like previous posters)

Going to WDW in Sept for 8 days then want to try US/IoA for 2 nights...

I AM CLUELESS !! Having a tough time figuring out what works for our group....It's not clicking with me - can't visualize...

Our Scoop:
4 adults / 4 kids
All 1st timers to US/IoA
Need hotel for 2 nights and tix to parks
Don't want to spend a fortune
HELP!!

And THANKS Again:wizard:pixiedust:
 
I have been trying to find some really good US reviews or forums etc....
Not having much luck....

THIS Thread is SOOOOOOOO Me !!!

Please keep the information coming....

First time US/IoA visitors too; we are WDW Pros (like previous posters)

Going to WDW in Sept for 8 days then want to try US/IoA for 2 nights...

I AM CLUELESS !! Having a tough time figuring out what works for our group....It's not clicking with me - can't visualize...

Our Scoop:
4 adults / 4 kids
All 1st timers to US/IoA
Need hotel for 2 nights and tix to parks
Don't want to spend a fortune
HELP!!

And THANKS Again:wizard:pixiedust:
The Universal web site is pretty awesome. Lots of interactive stuff. I didn't go on it until I came back, didn't want to risk spoiling the excitement, but really it is pretty informative.
 
I have been trying to find some really good US reviews or forums etc....
Not having much luck....

THIS Thread is SOOOOOOOO Me !!!

Please keep the information coming....

First time US/IoA visitors too; we are WDW Pros (like previous posters)

Going to WDW in Sept for 8 days then want to try US/IoA for 2 nights...

I AM CLUELESS !! Having a tough time figuring out what works for our group....It's not clicking with me - can't visualize...

Our Scoop:
4 adults / 4 kids
All 1st timers to US/IoA
Need hotel for 2 nights and tix to parks
Don't want to spend a fortune
HELP!!

And THANKS Again:wizard:pixiedust:
September isn't usually too busy so you can get away with staying offsite to save some money. Keep your eye for ticket specials although I don't think you'll find much right now.

You should probably look at the website to get an idea of the park layout and is if there are any attractions you're really interested in. You can also check YouTube for ride videos of those or any other attractions you're curious about.

If you have questions, please feel free to ask!
 












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