Global Warming - A Giant Lie.

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I give zero credence to that article. Beware of what a 'hacker' says he obtained by hacking into computers. One of the cited pieces of evidence was 'too perfect' (supposedly an email from one scientist to another bragging how he manipulated evidence from the past twenty years to hide an actual decline in the world's temperature.

I did enjoy reading that the author of the article claims to be absolutely right about everything. Nothing like confidence in oneself.
 
I give zero credence to that article. Beware of what a 'hacker' says he obtained by hacking into computers. One of the cited pieces of evidence was 'too perfect' (supposedly an email from one scientist to another bragging how he manipulated evidence from the past twenty years to hide an actual decline in the world's temperature.

I did enjoy reading that the author of the article claims to be absolutely right about everything. Nothing like confidence in oneself.

I picked up on that as well. Not to mention - this is a worldwide scientific endeavour, not just in the hands of one group of scientists with the power to manipulate all the data at hand. Whilst the two 'sides' of the issue have completely opposite viewpoints, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle, isn't it?
 
Global warming?!?!? What a minute.... I thought we weren't allowed to talk about religion here anymore! :confused3
 

Relligion? Nothing.

Politics? A whole lot.

I think this one is dangerous.
 
I did enjoy reading that the author of the article claims to be absolutely right about everything. Nothing like confidence in oneself.

Got that far and it was all over for me.. :rotfl:
 
Why has the earth cooled the last several years??

The billion dollar question.

The earth was formed a little under 5 billion years ago. We started recording the weather a couple hundred years ago give or take a few years.

What was the weather like in those unrecorded years?

Some reputable scientists believe the temperature of the sun runs in cycles and has more to do with warming/cooling of the earths climate.
 
I really like the title of one of his books :rolleyes1
 
I saw this earlier. My son's best friend came home today saying he heard that Dr. Phil revealed he was suffering from some condition and was dying. So, I started searching Dr. Phil (nothing turned up by the way, except Oprah giving up her show next year). Funny though, in the middle of the Oprah links, I saw a link stating it's now proven GW is a hoax.

Well, I read the article (wasn't the same one as in the OP), but when I went to download the entire files, I was taken to 2 sites. 1 was a porn site, the other was a weight lifting site of sorts, so I didn't put much weight on it at all.

Having said all that, I fully believe GW is a hoax. I'm just not sure that this alone will prove it.
 
Why has the earth cooled the last several years??

The billion dollar question.

The earth was formed a little under 5 billion years ago. We started recording the weather a couple hundred years ago give or take a few years.

What was the weather like in those unrecorded years?

Some reputable scientists believe the temperature of the sun runs in cycles and has more to do with warming/cooling of the earths climate.

there have been 12 ice ages. if global warming wasn't real and natural, why aren't we still in one?
 
Having worked with Anthony Watts (the blogger) in the past, I found him pretty credibly. With that said, nothing is verified yet. But if this does get verified, it'll be a huge scandal...
 
Global warming is not a lie per se. The earth goes through cyclic changes constantly. It warms up, cools down. That man had any negligible impact, yeah, that was a lie.
 
I think the blogger is desperately seeking attention. The debate over global warming has ended. The scientific evidence is abundant. Of course there will always be a segment of the population that believes it is a myth. These same people also tend to believe that the moon landing was faked and that the earth is about 6,000 years old.
 
I think the blogger is desperately seeking attention. The debate over global warming has ended. The scientific evidence is abundant. Of course there will always be a segment of the population that believes it is a myth. These same people also tend to believe that the moon landing was faked and that the earth is about 6,000 years old.

Love the argument that when a person doesn't buy into a particular notion that it's ok to toss absurd statements like, "these same people also tend to believe that the moon landing was faked and that the earth is about 6,000 years old," into the equation. All you're doing is trying to belittle anyone who disagrees with you. It will NEVER work, I can assure you of that.

NO the scientific evidence is NOT all in. Thousands upon thousands (tens of thousands actually) of scientists have gone on the record to say that global warming has nothing to do with man, and more importantly, CO2. CO2 has NEVER driven temperature. As a matter of fact, CO2 actually lags temperature by about 100 years (I believe that the number, but would have to look to say it 100%). If I am off, it doesn't change the fact that temperature drives CO2.

The ocean and volcanoes release the vast majority of CO2 that's in Earth's atmosphere. CO2 is only one gas that makes up the greenhouse gases in our atmosphere and it only makes up a very small percentage of all greenhouse gases. Then when oceans and volcanoes make up the vast majority of that TINY greenhouse gas, it's absurd to believe that man causes temps to rise.

Historically speaking (assuming you don't selectively make a hockey chart graph like Al Gore did that totally ignored the entire ice core record), what we are going thru (or should I say went thru?) is nothing new. The planet has ALWAYS gone thru these types of temperature changes.

It's also interesting to note that the temperature peaked in 1998. This was OVER a decade ago, yet we're so foolish that we can't see that?

I'm sure you'll hang on to ice caps eroding and such, but that too is nothing new.

Solar rays have the most effect on the temperature.

So, when we get the sun, the oceans and volcanoes (among other causes) under control, then maybe we'll stand a chance of fighting an imaginary global warming.

As for the debate being over, the only person who believes that is Al Gore. Scientists have asked him, have even BEGGED him to debate the issue, but he simply refuses. As a matter of fact, the man who started the weather channel had thought about suing Gore because of his carbon tax credits JUST to get him under oath so he could answer questions.

Oh, and there are more scientists who have gone on the record stating global warming is not man made than sat on the panel who decided it's some catastrophic event waiting to happen. AND, lest we not forget, environmental activists also sat on the panel that was put in charge to determine if GW is really happening. How ridiculous is that. Politicians also sat on that panel. These people simply were NOT qualified to make such a determination, not to mention they went in with a bias so they most definitely had ulterior motives.

Some scientists who did sit on the IPCC panel have had to threaten a lawsuit to have their names removed from the list of scientists who deemed GW was a huge threat.

Even scientists who have retired from NASA have been speaking out. Once they retired, there were no repercussions.

So, maybe you're just one of those who refuse to look at the facts and then just espouse the same boring rhetoric?
 
Global warming is the biggest hoax in my lifetime, and is nothing more than a money grab. It gets hot, it gets cold. It always has been that way, and it always will be that way.
 
there have been 12 ice ages. if global warming wasn't real and natural, why aren't we still in one?

spoken like someone has truely no knowledge on the subject.

I will give you a clue. There is not a scientist in the world that does not acknowledge that the earth naturally warms and cools. It is the RATE of change now that is concerning not the fact that it doe and will do it.
 
I will give you a clue. There is not a scientist in the world that does not acknowledge that the earth naturally warms and cools. It is the RATE of change now that is concerning not the fact that it doe and will do it.
Speaking of rates of change, when it comes to the the issue of "global warming" one thing I think is certain: The real world will continue to refuse to conform to the virtual world and scientists will continue to scratch their heads in wonder. The problem is that it's the virtual world, where it indeed is getting quite hot, that seems to be driving policy.
 
I have no knowledge if global warming is happening or not. However, I will speak of one experience.

In 1980 I went to Grindelwald, Switzerland, and camped out at the base of the glacier. The tourist information stated that it was retreating at a rate of ten feet a year or so. This glacier was easily viewed from town, and easy to walk up to.

In 2005 a friend visited the region. The glacier had retreated several miles up the valley. No tourist center, since there was nothing to be seen. The photos my friend brought back appalled me: the glacier was simply gone. The camp site had closed down. No reason to camp on a rocky field.

Global warming? Well, I don't know. However, it is obvious that in Switzerland there is warming taking place and causing all of the glaciers to retreat.
 
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