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Sorry guys, I always do that. I wish I could let it all go...I've been having nightmares about it all again...

I know that no one outside of ICAN is ever interested (except for the billing part and the 42 hours part), so I'm sorry I spewed my toxins all over. :(

:hug:
Its fine! Next time just call me! I am 3ish hours away!! I have a big mouth, I will advocate for you. Or atleast get the point across in meanest mommy voice, or I will call Cheryl & have her use her lawyer voice!!
I am sorry you went through all of that.

So we are gonna do a bachelorette for Wendy and a group un baby shower? Cool beans!



Don't be sorry.

Whaa....Wendy's gettin hitched???
YAY!!!!!!
 
Keep the pictures of the cute guys coming! :woohoo:

Big hugs to Molly and Kelly. :hug:

Yay for Beth and Jen having a fun night!

There's more I wanted to say, but I have to do some work for the boss lady. :rolleyes: Whatever pays the bills!

Have a great day everyone! :goodvibes
 
This brought stuff "up" for me, as I wait for phone calls and emails (sent an email to the other local sister to ask for insight)...



OK so some of you might know I'm not so much into hospitals, doctors, OBs, etc (and not even midwives except for one in OR that I would trust). I hired idiot midwives who did just about everything in their power to mess things up, pulled a big (illegal!) powerplay on me (pretending they were leaving me), hubby, and my aunt, forced me to the hospital b/c their "time" was up (but they didn't SAY that of course), then the OB on call was getting ready to go on his memorial day weekend trip (seriously, not kidding) and coerced me into absolutely unneeded, unnecessary, useless stupid surgery and cut DS's nose b/c NO ONE knew that he was at +3 station (despite my being only 9 cm!) AND posterior. NO ONE KNEW, b/c no one was checking. They just decided I was too old to have a kid (34!) and too heavy (only food I could eat from around 3 months on was ice cream, basically), and no one thought to figure out WHY labor was so completely funky (for anyone who doesn't know, posterior babies aren't impossible to get out, but you're going to have a WEIRD, long, slow, labor, along with the back labor! emphasis is on the WEIRD part...everything else can be dealt with, but the weirdness was the really super hard part).

So anyway, I was the Dreaded Homebirth Transfer, I fired my "midwives" almost as soon as we got there, I had a husband who had gone mute, an aunt who was an idiot, a "best friend" who was just so GLAD I had "come to my senses" blah blah blah, I was my ONLY advocate and I failed myself.

Anyway, Eamon was taken out at 7:45pm.

I had a FULL BREAKFAST at 8am the next morning. And a full lunch at noon. Full dinner.

Next morning? They started the process to discharge me, while feeding me the whole time.

I was discharged 42 hours post-op. Having eaten from only 12 hours post-op. Never had even a bowel sound, let alone the other things that competent doctors and hospitals generally require to be discharged after major abdominal surgery.

Exciting, eh?

I lived in a 3rd floor walkup apartment an hour away. 43 hours postop I was walking up 3 flights of stairs.

The nurses kept telling me it's just my insurance company's policy. No, no, WA law requires them to allow a 96 hour stay post-op. I didn't even get the 48 hours that a normal Birth gets. And I was fed the whole time.

I had a cyberfriend who had a baby who was brow presentation. She was in the hospital 6 days (wasn't sick, they just figured she had worked hard and deserved to stay). She wasn't fed A THING until 4 days had passed.

And it turns out the hospital had my insurance company wrong; I was given an OB who was with Group Health, and they thought I had GH. I had Great West. They had it wrong (and gosh I cannot believe that GH's policy is to boot patients at 42 hours postop).

And then adding insult to injury, the OB billed as though it was my CHOICE, when HE was the one screaming emergency all over the place. I got to pay for an out of network doc, b/c he REFUSED to rebill correctly. I went to an in network hospital, never expecting an out of network person to be there.

Doesn't that all sound like FUN???


Now here are the two things that I can come up with as positives (DS was always going to be here and healthy, and they only made him LESS healthy by taking him out before he was ready (he had signs of prematurity b/c long pregnancies run on both sides...hubby was a 44 week'er...so even though he was "old" by OB standards, he wasn't "cooked" yet) and cutting his nose):

1. the food was AWESOME. it's a catholic hospital and the food is donated by catholic charities, so I wasn't even billed for that food (donated to the partner, too, so hubby got fed).

2. by being booted out, no one knew that it took until the 5th full day for my milk to come in, no one was watching over me urging formula. DS and I just holed up in our treehouse apartment (that's how it felt to me) with my minions (husband and aunt, at whom I was BEYOND angry and they knew it,knew they'd messed up, and just did my bidding as long as I wanted it), and we played cavemama and cavebaby. With no one breathing down our necks, we got to that 5th day, colostrum started changing over, it was lovely.


Sure do wish I'd fired the "midwives" BEFORE they got me to the hospital, though...turns out I just don't "work" when watched. I'm like a cat. I should have holed up in my closet.


I also had a typical American baby shower that had people I didn't know well (b/c the friend that took over for the friend I'm worried about today decided I had too few friends and invited HER OWN FRIENDS out of pity), when I wanted a very small, intimate, blessingway...

So I'm doing things differently next time, but completely opposite from what most people want! (though I'm throwing my own blessingway, not relying on friends to do it, LOL, and I'm giving myself the presents I really want) :goodvibes

This is why I'm afraid to have a baby.

It's kind of interesting, at Disneyland my mom and I sat for a coffee break and started talking...about me. First she asked me if there were any guys I liked and I'm like :confused: uh, no but why are we talking about this?! :laughing: I said I don't know of any because I'm not looking, pretty much.

I truthfully told her that if I don't get married, it wouldn't bother me one bit but I would definitely be adopting because I really want a kid(s) and I was not about to go into the artificial insemination (its weird for me:confused3) but if I did get married I would have no problems staying at home with the kids. I told her, it's all good with me, whatever God has planned, I'm cool with it. I tell ya, I'm a very easy going kind of person.

Interestingly, I've somehow learned that stressing over life just makes it shorter.
 
Oh Molly, that sounds awful.:sad1:

I had a few friends come by with flowers and relatives visit. I would be very sad indeed if no one came to see me. And I don't even have very many friends! But you know what? I've been married twice and never had a nice wedding. Both times in our home with only family there. No pretty white (or cream;)) colored dress, no walking down the aisle, nobody doting or fawning over the beautiful bride. *Sigh*. One of my regrets in life. So, suffice to say that my one and only child is having an all out fancy, beautiful wedding where she will feel like a princess and I will live it through her as the mom of the bride. :lovestrucOf course, Breezy has no objections to my desires. Now, she just has to find a husband....of course, a boyfriend would be a good start.:sad2:


I have been engaged twice, no wedding, but 2 or um 3 beautiful wedding dresses, spent a fortune on a day that never happened. But my friend Amy has dubbed me 27 Dresses. I love gushing over the brides...sigh I love it when my friends get hitched!!

Ok so we have a do over baby shower's & gushing over how beautiful Linda is!!
 

DebbieLouWho... You should have had a very merry Unwedding day!
i bet when alice in wonderland grew up she had a very merry Unwedding day!:thumbsup2
 
This is why I'm afraid to have a baby.

:hug:

Sometimes when I tell my story, it sounds like all situations are like that...mine is a bit unique b/c I was very unprepared for pregnancy and hubby and my communication was awful and we couldn't figure out how to say the simplest things, let alone something like "Molly the midwives are scaring me, are you OK b/c if you and the baby are OK I'll send them home and call other midwives that we interviewed, but I won't divorce you like you think I'm going to if you don't go to the hospital" and I just messed up really bad with everything.

And I figured out much much later that the hospital just didn't know what to do with me, b/c I was there, of course they thought I WANTED to be there...but no one ever told them that I was forced to be there b/c the midwives wanted a NICU "just in case" (nothing was ever ever wrong with me or baby in labor, they were just tired and wanted to go home to their families), but I wanted to just be left ALONE. No one told them that, so they were just mystified by me...

There are stories like mine out there...but I think most people aren't as diehard homebirth as I am, and if they are, they prepare themselves a bit more than I did. Gawd I was dumb.


I've never stayed in the hospital longer than 48 hours after having a baby. It was probably an insurance thing, but truthfully I didn't mind. I hated being in the hospital. Between the nurses checking me for various reasons day and night, and checking the baby for various reasons day and night, and people in the hallways talking loudly day and night, and the doors that close very loudly (like hotel room doors) day and night, I couldn't get any rest or sleep.

OH gosh isn't that the truth?

I hated being there, I wasn't letting them help me with anything, but I also didn't think it was right that I should be kicked out.

It turned out, we figured out later, that I should not have anything percocet-like, it really messes with me. I can't think and can't physically speak when I'm on it (big time cotton mouth even once I get a thought to my brain), and that's what they had me on. Along with 800 mg ibuprofen. A 200mg taken at home makes me "high"...I was overdrugged and could'nt figure it out or communicate it. Figured out the percocet part a year later when hubby had to take it and had the same inability to speak problem.

But anyway, I felt like "you did this to me, now you get to take care of me"...even though I certainly wasn't having fun there.

Of course, Breezy has no objections to my desires. Now, she just has to find a husband....of course, a boyfriend would be a good start.:sad2:

Kind of her to have no objections! Have you considered an arranged marriage? :rotfl:
 
OK I've had a call from friend's sister (the lawyer-employer of the sis who is with friend). They are doing scads of testing, and will keep her overnight. If it's happening, it will happen tomorrow.

So I will be there tomorrow. But not today.

If any of the Seattle-area dis'ers have O- blood, she needs donors. I have positive, can't do it. :(



Gotta go feed Ds, he needs a second sandwich. And he'll get a hug while I'm at it, as I snapped at him a few times while waiting for friend's sister to call/email/facebook/whatever me with updates.
 
DebbieLouWho... You should have had a very merry Unwedding day!
i bet when alice in wonderland grew up she had a very merry Unwedding day!:thumbsup2

I did the first time. I called it off the day before with my kids dad. We just a had a very NICE partay!!
The second time, it was 1 month prior to the date.
I think I may be broken?

Kind of her to have no objections! Have you considered an arranged marriage? :rotfl:
:lmao::rotfl::rotfl2:
 
I don't know about you all, but I want a girl sooo bad.

If I could guarantee that the next one woud be a girl I would have another in a heartbeat!

When I had my ultra sound & I found out Jordan was a boy. I cried and cried and cried and cried and cried.
I wanted a girl so badly.

I actually planned my 3rd to be a girl, and what a GIRL she is!! High maintenance and everything else that comes with it!! Right, Cheryl?

I had charted a lot of my "stuff" and had read up on how to have a girl, in relation to the little swimmie things (not sure if I can actually say that word) and timing, did the deed once, and knew she was a girl. We didn't even have a boy's name picked out, like with the first 2, because I was so sure. And I never found out what any of mine were before they were born. I have also helped a couple of friends get pregnant when they were taking longer than they wanted to. I mean, I shared information with them... what are you thinking??? :rolleyes1
 
So we are gonna do a bachelorette for Wendy and a group un baby shower? Cool beans!
To quote you, "Darn skippy!" :cool1: :rotfl:
It's gonna be a week long party complete with nekkid massages. :rolleyes1 :lmao: Or something like that. lol




No pretty white (or cream;)) colored dress, no walking down the aisle, nobody doting or fawning over the beautiful bride. *Sigh*. One of my regrets in life.
Linda! Don't regret it. Do it now. Renew your vows and have the wedding you always wanted. Or at least a close version of it. We'll all be there and we'll fawn all over you. And better still, we'll throw you a bachelorette party the night before. :banana:



:yay:BoUnCe BoUnCe BoUnCe:yay:
I want whatever she's on.



OMG! I love your new tag! :rotfl2:
:lmao::lmao::lmao: Where did that come from?? I mean I know from the tag fairy, duh, but how did you two end up sisters?? :rotfl2:
 
I actually planned my 3rd to be a girl, and what a GIRL she is!! High maintenance and everything else that comes with it!! Right, Cheryl?

I had charted a lot of my "stuff" and had read up on how to have a girl, in relation to the little swimmie things (not sure if I can actually say that word) and timing, did the deed once, and knew she was a girl. We didn't even have a boy's name picked out, like with the first 2, because I was so sure. And I never found out what any of mine were before they were born. I have also helped a couple of friends get pregnant when they were taking longer than they wanted to. I mean, I shared information with them... what are you thinking??? :rolleyes1

Well I know who I am coming to when I am ready to have a girl!!!

The little swimmie things...:lmao::rotfl2:
 
Linda! Don't regret it. Do it now. Renew your vows and have the wedding you always wanted. Or at least a close version of it. We'll all be there and we'll fawn all over you. And better still, we'll throw you a bachelorette party the night before. :banana:

Yes yes! Perhaps you guys could plan a renewal for, oh, let's just say, pulling dates out of my brain...March 2nd or so? Have it the DLH or some place nearby? :dance3:
 
To quote you, "Darn skippy!" :cool1: :rotfl:
It's gonna be a week long party complete with nekkid massages. :rolleyes1 :lmao: Or something like that. lol

I want the massage!!



Linda! Don't regret it. Do it now. Renew your vows and have the wedding you always wanted. Or at least a close version of it. We'll all be there and we'll fawn all over you. And better still, we'll throw you a bachelorette party the night before. :banana:

DO IT!!! It would be so much fun!!

I want whatever she's on.


Ditto!! Maybe I should run for Sbux & I will be all bouncy like her!

:lmao::lmao::lmao: Where did that come from?? I mean I know from the tag fairy, duh, but how did you two end up sisters?? :rotfl2:

Ok so when I was in high school my good friend Christina, her BF started calling me Debbielou. Hmmm...about a year ago my other friend at my friends bridal shower was yelled, Hey DebbieLouwho would like a.....so DebbieLouWho has stuck. I think on the Christmas planning there I told Dawn so she put Jordansmomma/Debbielouwho Wendylouwho's sister...yada yada!
 
:hug:

Sometimes when I tell my story, it sounds like all situations are like that...mine is a bit unique b/c I was very unprepared for pregnancy and hubby and my communication was awful and we couldn't figure out how to say the simplest things, let alone something like "Molly the midwives are scaring me, are you OK b/c if you and the baby are OK I'll send them home and call other midwives that we interviewed, but I won't divorce you like you think I'm going to if you don't go to the hospital" and I just messed up really bad with everything.

And I figured out much much later that the hospital just didn't know what to do with me, b/c I was there, of course they thought I WANTED to be there...but no one ever told them that I was forced to be there b/c the midwives wanted a NICU "just in case" (nothing was ever ever wrong with me or baby in labor, they were just tired and wanted to go home to their families), but I wanted to just be left ALONE. No one told them that, so they were just mystified by me...

There are stories like mine out there...but I think most people aren't as diehard homebirth as I am, and if they are, they prepare themselves a bit more than I did. Gawd I was dumb.

It's not just your story, though. I could deal with getting and being pregnant but when it's time for that sucker to come out...:eek: I freak out just thinking about it. :laughing:

I did the first time. I called it off the day before with my kids dad. We just a had a very NICE partay!!
The second time, it was 1 month prior to the date.
I think I may be broken?

or just dark & twisty to quote Grey's anatomy ;)
 
A few years ago my DD was in the hospital, she loved the food. After she recovered, she asked if we could go back and eat there :confused3 But she also loves hospital cafeterias as well. She is a special one.

My DS also LOVES hospital food :scared1: We spent a LOT of time in hospitals when he was younger, so I guess he just got used to it (that and all the Popsicles that he got from the nurses!).

Sorry guys, I always do that. I wish I could let it all go...I've been having nightmares about it all again...

I know that no one outside of ICAN is ever interested (except for the billing part and the 42 hours part), so I'm sorry I spewed my toxins all over. :(

Don't be sorry - it's how you are/were feeling and it's good to get it out. It's not nice if that stays inside, brewing up a storm!

I have also helped a couple of friends get pregnant when they were taking longer than they wanted to. I mean, I shared information with them... what are you thinking??? :rolleyes1

:scared1: (j/k)

Yes yes! Perhaps you guys could plan a renewal for, oh, let's just say, pulling dates out of my brain...March 2nd or so? Have it the DLH or some place nearby? :dance3:

March 2 sounds like a fab date! :thumbsup2


BTW - I really wish I could go to Vegas. I have never been! I'm not much of a drinking/gambling type person, but I know there is lots more to do there.....
 
It's not just your story, though. I could deal with getting and being pregnant but when it's time for that sucker to come out...:eek: I freak out just thinking about it. :laughing:



or just dark & twisty to quote Grey's anatomy ;)


I love Grey's, but really I think I am broken, or slightly cracked.
 
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