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Kathleen Kennedy to Step Down at Lucasfilm

After a mixed 13-year run, the legendary movie producer has informed Disney, as well as friends and associates, that she will exit as Lucasfilm president by the end of the year.

By Matthew Belloni
February 24, 2025

It’s happening: After years of speculation, and polite urging from observers like me, Kathleen Kennedy has informed Disney, as well as friends and associates, that she will exit as Lucasfilm president by the end of the year, per three sources. Disney and Kennedy’s personal publicist declined to comment.

Not a huge shock, of course. Kennedy will be 72 in June, and the legendary movie producer will have run Lucasfilm for 13 years as George Lucas’s handpicked steward under Disney. Kathy was actually planning to leave last year, I’m told, and had even set up an exit interview with a journalist, but she decided to stay for one more year.
 
https://puck.news/kathleen-kennedy-to-step-down-at-lucasfilm/

Kathleen Kennedy to Step Down at Lucasfilm

After a mixed 13-year run, the legendary movie producer has informed Disney, as well as friends and associates, that she will exit as Lucasfilm president by the end of the year.

By Matthew Belloni
February 24, 2025

It’s happening: After years of speculation, and polite urging from observers like me, Kathleen Kennedy has informed Disney, as well as friends and associates, that she will exit as Lucasfilm president by the end of the year, per three sources. Disney and Kennedy’s personal publicist declined to comment.

Not a huge shock, of course. Kennedy will be 72 in June, and the legendary movie producer will have run Lucasfilm for 13 years as George Lucas’s handpicked steward under Disney. Kathy was actually planning to leave last year, I’m told, and had even set up an exit interview with a journalist, but she decided to stay for one more year.

Some people will be dancing in the streets, but she is leavng of her own accord and not being forced out. I am sure that a certain side of the fanbase will try to spin it that way, heralding it as a new day for Star Wars, only to viciously hate her replacement and everything they produce as well. Personally, I wouldn't want to take the job - you can't win no matter what you do.
 
Her hits were a lot greater than her misses.

I definitely think so. I mean, creatively, I enjoyed all of it. The Acolyte was the closest thing to a miss, but I still didn't hate it or anything - I would have wanted to see some asjustments for season 2, and a cleaner execution, but I'd have been up for it. I know some of the series didn't have the best viewership, but Solo was the only theatrical failure (at least for Star Wars), and it's still a good movie, if a bit unnecessary. Rogue One was also unnecessary, but it is pretty highly praised, and it gave us Andor!

Is her tenure perfect? No, but generally I have enjoyed it. I don't know who will come in, but I wish them luck. They will be blamed for anything that is deemed bad and never given a shred of credit for the things that are good - assuming the fans choose to deem anything at all as "good." Which they won't. They might for a short time, like Mandalorian, but they will eventually turn on it too. It's a thankless role, which is why George didn't want to do it anymore. My advice to the fans - calm down and have fun with it!
 

https://puck.news/kathleen-kennedy-to-step-down-at-lucasfilm/

Kathleen Kennedy to Step Down at Lucasfilm

After a mixed 13-year run, the legendary movie producer has informed Disney, as well as friends and associates, that she will exit as Lucasfilm president by the end of the year.

By Matthew Belloni
February 24, 2025

It’s happening: After years of speculation, and polite urging from observers like me, Kathleen Kennedy has informed Disney, as well as friends and associates, that she will exit as Lucasfilm president by the end of the year, per three sources. Disney and Kennedy’s personal publicist declined to comment.

Not a huge shock, of course. Kennedy will be 72 in June, and the legendary movie producer will have run Lucasfilm for 13 years as George Lucas’s handpicked steward under Disney. Kathy was actually planning to leave last year, I’m told, and had even set up an exit interview with a journalist, but she decided to stay for one more year.
Thank the Lord! She is an absolutely terrible studio boss. Her tenure has been an abject failure in almost every respect.

Financially, every Stars Wars episodic film (7-9) made less than its predecessor. That is significant in a very bad way. One of the last Star Wars films, Solo, actually lost money (a lot of money). Indy 5 ended up one of the larger financial disasters for Disney in the vein of John Carter, the Marvels and The Lone Ranger. Except, Indy is a character and franchise that is far more beloved than John Carter, the Lone Ranger and the ladies that make up the Marvels. That makes the financial disaster for Indy 5 that much larger of a stain.

Speaking of Disney+, I've been told The Skeleton Crew was a decent show. I didn't watch it. And the thing is that the streaming numbers reflect that I'm not the only one not watching. Why? Because the prior shows have been such a disaster that the general public doesn't seem to invest into the Star Wars streaming programs moving forward. I literally stopped watching Acolyte after the third episode because of how dumb that show was. My DW finished the show in its entirety and she told me that I made the correct decision to bail. She rarely agrees with me. If folks around here love all the new Star Wars D+ programming, then God Bless you. Then there is the cost of Lucasfilm D+ productions, which is absolutely insane given how much they use the volume for production (which looks like crap -- and which is why Andor's on location shooting looks better than other productions -- and which is why Andor's budget is insanely high). Otherwise, the only other D+ non-Star Wars show was Willow. That show was so poorly received that D+ has now removed it from its programming and banished it from further viewing by anyone ever again. FYI - I loved the original movie and despised the TV show. So, I am very biased.

Artistically, Lucasfilm is a disaster. Lucasfilm has somehow announced and "fired" or moved on from the following people: Lord/Miller, Benioff/Weiss, Jenkins, Trevorrow, Trank, Connelly, Lindeloff, Taika, Feige, R. Johnson, Waldron, del Toro, Steven K. and even the great Rogue One ended up with Terry Gilroy instead of Edwards to complete the project. This suggests that Kathleen Kennedy has no strategic vision and as a studio head that is really important. You need to have talent that are understanding of the project as a whole. For instance, J.J. Abrams and Rian Johnson's vision for the episodic films was more disjointed than cohesive. Actually, I think making the argument to bring J..J. Abrams back to Star Wars for Episode 9 was a mistake is ultimately correct. The decision not to re-cast Princess Leia after Carrie Fisher's death was a major mistake and then ramming CGI old footage to "honor" her memory was unnecesary and only helped make Episode 9 a mess of a movie. On top of it, they took Han Solo, a dead character, and then turned him into a quasi-force ghost speaking to his injured son that killed him. There is a cloned Emperor and he's now the bad guy. Rey announces she is a Skywalker in the end. These are examples whereby the story and characters were ram rodded together and the audience was told to accept it because it's Star Wars. It was all a schizophrenic movie trilogy and why the company is still wasting time about brining Rey back is beyond me.

Moving forward, here's the biggest question for TWDC and fandom: Is Star Wars better off? Under Kathy Kennedy, I would submit that Star Wars is in a far poorer position now than when she took over Lucasfilm. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Bluey were a more valuable franchise right now than Star Wars. Bluey! Not only has the existing franchises (Star Wars, Indy and Willow) been damaged, there is absolutely no new creative projects/franchises under the Lucasfilm banner either since she started. What is the brand new project or franchise that Lucasfilm is developing that has folks excited? What movies do they have in development that exists outside of existing franchises? This is not a creative vision that has left the production company better off. It has been over 5 years since the last Star Wars movie was released. I guess next year there is the new Mando & Grogu movie to be released. So, it took 6 years and exchanging a D+ show season to get a film into theaters? That's winning? How Kathleen Kennedy has been able to hold on so long is really quite confounding. And, I'm a person who loathes seeing people lose their jobs. And I think she is a Hall of Fame producer in Hollywood too.

I have often felt that Star Wars couldn't get any worse with Kathleen Kennedy gone, but then again, there is what is happening with Dr. Who and James Bond. Those franchises have turned into a debacle for the BBC and Broccolis that they are pulling the plug. So, Bob Iger could make a bigger mess of things. After all, he did recommend and vote for Bob Chapek to be TWDC CEO, right.

At least we have the Galactic Star Cruiser memories and Galaxy's Edge.
 
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Her hits were a lot greater than her misses.
I disagree completely.

Kennedy oversaw the decline of the Lucasfilm brand in almost every way. Indiana Jones latest entry flopped. Willow flopped. Sequel trilogy started great and then went off the rails with TLJ. Disney plus stuff has been sporadic at best with most of the recent stuff not drawing very many viewers. She needed to be let go years ago. She managed the lucasfilm franchises into a steep decline.

I’m am very thankful she is finally leaving, and hope someone that actually wants to please legacy fans takes over studio.
 
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All the Hollywood rags chime in...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/kathleen-kennedy-lucasfilm-run-ambitious-023626226.html

Kathleen Kennedy’s Lucasfilm Run: Ambitious Expansion Clashing With Corporate Necessity | Analysis
by Drew Taylor - The Wrap
Tue, February 25, 2025 at 8:36 PM CST

https://variety.com/2025/film/news/...wars-exit-who-runs-franchise-next-1236320393/

Feb 25, 2025 - 3:59pm PT

Who Will Run ‘Star Wars’ After Kathleen Kennedy Leaves? One of Hollywood’s Hottest — and Hardest — Jobs Opens Up

By Brent Lang, Rebecca Rubin

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/m...ennedy-replacement-favreau-filoni-1236146500/

Disney’s Star Wars Succession Problem: Who Will Replace Kathleen Kennedy?
Favreau? Filoni? Feige? Here's what insiders are saying about who will — and should — become Disney's new Star Wars emperor: "There is no credible alternative."

By Borys Kit, James Hibberd
February 25, 2025 - 3:01pm PST
 
Disney’s Star Wars Succession Problem: Who Will Replace Kathleen Kennedy?
Favreau? Filoni? Feige? Here's what insiders are saying about who will — and should — become Disney's new Star Wars emperor: "There is no credible alternative."

If it is any of those three people then I am going to vomit. Throw J.J. Abrams and Bad Robot into the mix and I will be vomiting for days.

Look I am neither naive nor an idiot. It would make all the sense in the world for Bob Iger and TWDC to keep truckin' along with the status quo. Kathleen Kennedy and the rest of the folks at Lucasfilm have smashed the 3 major Lucasfilm franchises (Willow, Indy and Star Wars) into pieces, without any significant consequence. After all, the head of the studio gets leave on her own terms. Just keep doing the same thing and hope things get better, not worse. Hire Dave Filoni. He has no experience and is one of the creative leads that has helped get Lucasfilm in the pickle it is in today.

If TWDC wants to fix this problem, they need to back up the Brinks truck and hire a legitimate, real studio boss. You cannot go back to John Lasseter or Alan Horn to fix the problems at Lucasfilm. That is not a realistic solution for TWDC moving forward. TWDC needs to pay (big money) to get a person like a Jason Blum, John Quinn, or David Fenkel to come aboard. This is an illustrative and non-exhaustive list. I realize that none of these folks have run a studio that has huge franchises, like Star Wars. Heck, I don't even know that they would want to run Lucasfilm in its current condition. But, do you know what each of these persons has experience in and some success doing? Operate a movie studio.

Watch TWDC will hire Pete Docter and we will get the cross-over Star Wars Inside Out - featuring emotions of Wookie ambition, Sith hate and Rebellion heartbreak.
 
...the 3 major Lucasfilm franchises (Willow, Indy and Star Wars)....

Okay, now hold on, Willow is by no stretch of the imagination a "major franchise." It's barely a minor one. As much as I like it, it just never was anything too big or special. The show didn't exactly sink that ship - it was already there. Honestly, I liked the show too - it was sort of weirdly insane, but so was the movie, which is probably why it was never all that popular to begin with. People didn't not watch the show because it was bad, they didn't watch it because it was Willow, and few people actually cared to begin with.
 
Okay, now hold on, Willow is by no stretch of the imagination a "major franchise." It's barely a minor one. As much as I like it, it just never was anything too big or special. The show didn't exactly sink that ship - it was already there. Honestly, I liked the show too - it was sort of weirdly insane, but so was the movie, which is probably why it was never all that popular to begin with. People didn't not watch the show because it was bad, they didn't watch it because it was Willow, and few people actually cared to begin with.
So I assume you agree the Kennedy ran SW and Indiana Jones in the ground, but just not Willow?
 
So I assume you agree the Kennedy ran SW and Indiana Jones in the ground, but just not Willow?

I'm not going to get into that - my opinion on the matter is on record. What I will say, is that people are trying to pile on "Willow" as "yet another ruined franchise" to make her look worse, but, come one, It's WILLOW! It was never much to begin with. The show was actually quite good - people didn't watch because there was a lack of interest. The only real mistake was in trying.

Which, to be fair, is the problem with pursuing Star Wars and Indiana Jones too. Nothing that anyone makes will ever satisfy these fans who insist that what they want is what everyone wants and it is impossible for anything that is even slightly different than their expections to have any redeeming qualities whatsoever. It wouldn't matter who makes it or what they make. Even George himsels couldn't please anybody, which is why he got out. The idea that things would be any different under different leadership is a pipe-dream.
 
If you want to fix Lucasfilm and actually make the brands valuable again a few things are required:
- Hire someone committed to making amends with all the legacy fans who were ostracized under Kennedy’s leadership
- Hire someone who is willing to put a cohesive plan together for how you want the franchises to move forward
- Do what sells and brings excitement to the franchise. If Luke, Leia, Han, and Vader are what sells, find a way to embrace that instead of trying to minimize those characters.

If I was the boss, here is what I would do:
- focus on young Indy and hire you a great set of writers and actors to revive the love for Indiana Jones.
- On SW abandon the sequel trilogy garbage, and either go back and fill in the gaps in the Lucas creations, or go to a new era well away from any skywalker saga.
- Tell stories with a true hero’s arc, as that’s what people want to see. Stop subverting expectations, stop worrying about anything other than telling great stories in the tradition sense. Stop destroying legacy characters in an effort to make your new characters be liked. Tell a good story period.
 
Okay, now hold on, Willow is by no stretch of the imagination a "major franchise." It's barely a minor one. As much as I like it, it just never was anything too big or special. The show didn't exactly sink that ship - it was already there. Honestly, I liked the show too - it was sort of weirdly insane, but so was the movie, which is probably why it was never all that popular to begin with. People didn't not watch the show because it was bad, they didn't watch it because it was Willow, and few people actually cared to begin with.
I'm not sure that's a fair comment or quote of me. Willow is a "major Lucasfilm franchise" and I didn't say it was a "major franchise".

Admittedly, there isn't much in the production history for Lucasfilm so pickins' are slim, which supports your point. American Grafitti, Land Before Time, Strange Magic, Red Tails, Labyrinth, Howard the Duck and Radioland Murders are all examples of franchises outside of Indy and SW.

But, do you know who agrees with me that Willow is a major Lucasfilm franchise: Kathleen Kennedy. I didn't choose to produce a D+ show using the Willow characters or story that cost the company over $172M (reportedly) to produce. I repeat, Lucasfilm spent $172,000,000 on Willow. Kathleen Kennedy made the decision to green light the Willow TV show and spend over (reportedly) $172M on Willow's production. No one else made that decision, because she's the studio head. She's in charge. And she obviously felt that Willow was a franchise worth spending (reportedly) over $172M to make one season totaling 8-episodes. And wouldn't her decision to greenlight and okay a production budget of this magnitude for a franchise like Willow [that you described as "by no stretch of the imagination a 'major franchise'"] telling that she was a bad studio head?

All film, TV and art in general is subjective. If you liked Willow D+ show, I celebrate it. Frankly, I think Ron Howard's Willow is absolutely awesome! I love it.

However, Willow, the D+ show, wasn't successful by any metric whatsoever. It was such a disaster that TWDC banished it from D+ forever and took a tax write off. That's a terrible outcome. And I don't know what else to say to people, who disagree.

It's okay to celebrate Kathleen Kennedy as one of the greatest producers in the history of Hollywood. Put her movies up against any other producer in history, and she's as good as anyone. She was a terrible studio boss. Willow's D+ show is a prime example of how bad she ran the studio.
 
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I'm not going to get into that - my opinion on the matter is on record. What I will say, is that people are trying to pile on "Willow" as "yet another ruined franchise" to make her look worse, but, come one, It's WILLOW! It was never much to begin with. The show was actually quite good - people didn't watch because there was a lack of interest. The only real mistake was in trying.

Which, to be fair, is the problem with pursuing Star Wars and Indiana Jones too. Nothing that anyone makes will ever satisfy these fans who insist that what they want is what everyone wants and it is impossible for anything that is even slightly different than their expections to have any redeeming qualities whatsoever. It wouldn't matter who makes it or what they make. Even George himsels couldn't please anybody, which is why he got out. The idea that things would be any different under different leadership is a pipe-dream.
At the end of the day KK took a 4 billion dollar studio and made it worth likely less than half of that. She destroyed what the creative geniuses before her created.

Her name is attached to some of my favorite movies of all time, and for that I thank her. As a studio head however, she was a disaster.
 
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I'm not sure that's a fair comment or quote of me. Willow is a "major Lucasfilm franchise" and I didn't say it was a "major franchise".

Admittedly, there isn't much in the production history for Lucasfilm so pickins' are slim, which supports your point. American Grafitti, Land Before Time, Strange Magic, Red Tails, Labyrinth, Howard the Duck and Radioland Murders are all examples of franchises outside of Indy and SW.

Those are not "franchises" they are movies. A single movie does not a franchise make. Granted, I suppose Willow is a franchise now that it also has a series, but major is a pretty big stretch. I agree that spending that much on Willow of all things was a bad idea.

It's still a good show. People might have liked it if they had watched it, or if it wasn't tied to some old movie that people might not have felt the need to watch, but didn't want to.

Also, The Land Before Time is not from Lucasfilm. It is however a "Franchise" as it has about a thousand sequels!
 
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- Hire someone committed to making amends with all the legacy fans who were ostracized under Kennedy’s leadership

I'll say this again, but then I'm done. I AM a Legacy Fan and I was NOT ostracized in any way.

Had Lucasfilm done things the way some fans would have preferred them, then I might have felt ostracized. Suppose they had given you what you wanted and it somehow offended me? I guess me and my ilk would have stopped supporting the franchise. Then we'd be in the same boat. It's a lose-lose scenario.
 
I'll say this again, but then I'm done. I AM a Legacy Fan and I was NOT ostracized in any way.

Had Lucasfilm done things the way some fans would have preferred them, then I might have felt ostracized. Suppose they had given you what you wanted and it somehow offended me? I guess me and my ilk would have stopped supporting the franchise. Then we'd be in the same boat. It's a lose-lose scenario.
I disagree with your take. The majority of the legacy fans hated the direction that Lucasfilm chose to take the franchise. It started great with TFA and then began its decline with TLJ. The proof is in the declining interest, toy / merch sales, and viewership of SW content in general. It’s a brand in decline and that is a direct result of how Lucasfilm managed the brand.

Maybe you thought differently, but the interest in the brand currently suggests you are an outlier and not the norm. Sorta like your hate of Tom Cruise, you are an outlier there also if I remember correctly.
 
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