Gender Specific Races

Men, if Disney (or anyone else) offerred a men's only race, how likely would you be t

  • I would LOVE a men's only race and would register for it.

  • A men's only race hold NO APPEAL to me and I probably would not register.

  • Something else (please share)


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Again, though some people seem to think it's having the opposite effect, I think this is Disney trying to act as an equalizer, not a discriminator.

I agree that is probably the intent, but I don't see how discrimination is the way to end discrimination. If Disney believes that women want their own race, give it to them. If they think women would prefer to run with just women, consider having the men and women run the course in opposite directions (yeah, logistics would suck, but I have faith in Disney).

Again, I don't care about the theme. I wouldn't care if it was women-only. I care about the fact that the race is willing to take the same amount of money from me, and treat me as a second class participant.
 
I'm about to head out the door (for a run, actually - got new shoes yesterday, need to break them in before a marathon next week), so this is jumbled and brief:

It seems that, when men dominate an area (STEM subjects in college, sports, etc), there is an inequality that needs to be addressed in order to achieve parity. When women dominate in an area (in this specific case, women being the majority of half marathon runners), then it is because women want to do these things (or men do not), and women's participation should be increased, or, at the very least, not questioned.

Hooters markets to men. They don't even make a pretense about doing anything else. But they routinely get called sexist, mysogynistic, neanderthals, etc. But marketing to women is just good business sense.
 
I'm about to head out the door (for a run, actually - got new shoes yesterday, need to break them in before a marathon next week), so this is jumbled and brief:

It seems that, when men dominate an area (STEM subjects in college, sports, etc), there is an inequality that needs to be addressed in order to achieve parity. When women dominate in an area (in this specific case, women being the majority of half marathon runners), then it is because women want to do these things (or men do not), and women's participation should be increased, or, at the very least, not questioned.

Hooters markets to men. They don't even make a pretense about doing anything else. But they routinely get called sexist, mysogynistic, neanderthals, etc. But marketing to women is just good business sense.

Yep. As I posted here it is the double standard that infuriates me. If Disney decided to do the exact same thing but in reverse it would be perceived differently.
 
I don't like the idea of gender specific races at Disney. It goes against what Disney is all about. I was pretty disappointed with this race announcements on several levels.
 

FireDancer, I'm surprised you're so fired up not to support Disney's sexism only now... Have you not seen any Disney films? They're filled with sexism and racism.

You say, "Running isn't other sports. The separation that happens in other sports based on gender doesn't, well shouldn't, happen here. In other sports like baseball, football, or hockey you would also never see a 70 year old man compete with the 20 year old guys that do play but running is different. Here my grandpa or grandma could line up right beside me."

Do you boycot professional sports organizations? You should, ir you're choosing not to support any "sexist" organizations.

I'm not trying to cause controversy here; I can (kind of) understand the frustrations from the male perspective here. You can't win...though men do seem to finish first in every other Disney race. You do get a medal. I guess what would really anger me if I were a man is that I wouldn't get a men's race t-shirt.
 
FireDancer, I'm surprised you're so fired up not to support Disney's sexism only now... Have you not seen any Disney films? They're filled with sexism and racism.

You say, "Running isn't other sports. The separation that happens in other sports based on gender doesn't, well shouldn't, happen here. In other sports like baseball, football, or hockey you would also never see a 70 year old man compete with the 20 year old guys that do play but running is different. Here my grandpa or grandma could line up right beside me."

Do you boycot professional sports organizations? You should, ir you're choosing not to support any "sexist" organizations.

I'm not trying to cause controversy here; I can (kind of) understand the frustrations from the male perspective here. You can't win...though men do seem to finish first in every other Disney race. You do get a medal. I guess what would really anger me if I were a man is that I wouldn't get a men's race t-shirt.

Except for baseball, hockey, golf, and basketball, each of which has had a women compete in at least minor league games. Also, professional sports are merit based. You get there because you can perform your job as well or better than anyone else the team can get.

Slightly different case than a fun run.
 
FireDancer, I'm surprised you're so fired up not to support Disney's sexism only now... Have you not seen any Disney films? They're filled with sexism and racism.

You say, "Running isn't other sports. The separation that happens in other sports based on gender doesn't, well shouldn't, happen here. In other sports like baseball, football, or hockey you would also never see a 70 year old man compete with the 20 year old guys that do play but running is different. Here my grandpa or grandma could line up right beside me."

Do you boycot professional sports organizations? You should, ir you're choosing not to support any "sexist" organizations.

I'm not trying to cause controversy here; I can (kind of) understand the frustrations from the male perspective here. You can't win...though men do seem to finish first in every other Disney race. You do get a medal. I guess what would really anger me if I were a man is that I wouldn't get a men's race t-shirt.

Many professional sports have physiological reasons why men and women can't compete together. I'm not delusional, I think there are situations in which the sexes can compete together and some where they just can't. Running and triathlon are one of the rare instances where men and women can compete because they are not directly competing against each other. On an NFL field everyone competes directly with everyone on the other. It doesn't matter if 200 men cross the finish line before the first woman in racing. That 201st finisher, if she is the first woman, is just as much the winner as the 1st man was. Mirinda Carfrae is just as much the current Ironman World Champion as Chris McCormack is.

I do, however, fully support any woman who is good enough to play in any professional sports league. If a woman is good enough to pitch in the major leagues or play goalie in the NHL I think they should be able to play in that professional league. You get no argument there from me. There also isn't a double standard in most professional sports because both men and women are allowed single gender leagues. Here, only women are allowed gender-specific races. You also have things like Title IX that mandate equality because women weren't being treated as equal. The problem was addressed not explained away with a balance sheet. On another note though I wouldn't consider golfing at Augusta because they don't allow women and that is just as wrong, IMO, as Disney not allowing men to fully participate.

Most of the Disney films that people point to as sexist or racist are historical stores told at a point in history when those things were unfortunately a fact. A story that takes place in the pre-civil war era and depicts African Americans as slaves isn't racist, it is historical accuracy. A fairytale that takes place in the 17th century and treats women as not equal to men isn't sexist, it is historically accurate. It doesn't matter when a film is made, it matters what point in history the film depicts. It doesn't make those things right but it tells the story from the standpoint that the story would have been told at that point in time. Contemporary stories, absolutely, but then you have characters like Lilo who are contemporary and as far as I know are treated as equal citizens. If there is a modern-time based story that depicts women as inferior that is wrong but at the same time these stories, as bad as they may be, are fiction. Fiction isn't real but I assure you half marathons are real. Al Pacino was portrayed as a murderous drug dealer in Scarface but despite that depiction no one thinks he is actually one.

Most importantly, even though I think they are often not protesting the right thing, those fairytale stories that portray women negatively or those old stories that portray African Americans negatively do get protests, do get boycotts by groups of people, do get books written about their influence on young women. When men are the ones marginalized we don't get those same things and definitely don't get those same things on the same level.

That went kind of long. FWIW I haven't been to a professional sports game in a while. Women have a lot of situations where they are treated unfairly as do homosexuals, minorities, and just about everything else. None of those things are right but all of them get a lot more attention than when men are treated unfairly.

All of this is merely my opinion. I have no problem agreeing to disagree.
 
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There are physical differences in most other sports. And (usually) men are physically better than women by a significant difference. That's why I don't boycott things like the NBA. I would if the women could compete but weren't allowed to. (some are getting pretty close though) I don't boycott the NBA for discriminating against short people either. It's just a physical difference. And age plays the same role. Some sports can be played for 20-30 years (golf) and some maybe a decade (football).

That's the beauty of running. Everyone can run the same race and the slower runners don't really detract from the performance of the elite runners. Everyone can run the Disney marathon, get a PR, get a medal, and walk away happy.

I guess I just think that the trend is bothering me. We (women) fought for years to be allowed to compete. Now we're separating ourselves out again.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a girly girl and these races would never appeal to me on that level anyway. I'd never run a race in wings, or a sparkle skirt, or a tiara. Some of us just don't do pink ;)
 
Firedancer--
I didn't mean to jump into your argument. I think we posted at the same time.
 
Firedancer--
I didn't mean to jump into your argument. I think we posted at the same time.

No problemo, that is the beauty of a forum.

You bring up a very good point too about height. I'm pretty short, 5'6", and I don't care that in the vast majority of sports I would never be able to play. If, however, Disney decided that any male under 6' tall wasn't eligible for an award I'd be annoyed because in this instance height doesn't matter.
 
I would not seek out such a race. It would not make me feel comfortable. I enjoy the knowledge, spirit and enjoyment that diversity brings with it.

But if it was a race that I had an interest in due to some aspect, I don't know that I would boycott it, either.
 
A bunch of guys should sign up for the Tink race and wear shirts that say QUEER, FAT, DIABETIC MALE RUNNER.
 
I guess I just think that the trend is bothering me. We (women) fought for years to be allowed to compete. Now we're separating ourselves out again.


That is how I feel. Putting research, statistics and demographics aside, a race here and there is fine. The Princess theme is great at WDW. It allowed for that one unique race for a lot of first timers and because you could dress up like a Princess it mostly catered to ladies. But, although I love Tinkerbell and will probably run the first race just to run in an inaugural race, I think that Disney would have done far better with the Peter Pan theme because it could still appeal to ladies for the Princess aspect but not alienate everyone else. It probably would have been the most fun that way because there were so many options for dressing up if you wanted to!
 
IT IS SEXISM

It bugs me, But I also have double standards I suppose cause I am stilll entering other disney races, ultimatly you vote with your feet(literally in this case)
if the race gets full they dont care, I wouldnt participate in a gender specific race.

DISprincessWANNABE ........excellant post, although I dont agree with you ,you do make an excellant argument.
 
Many professional sports have physiological reasons why men and women can't compete together. I'm not delusional, I think there are situations in which the sexes can compete together and some where they just can't. Running and triathlon are one of the rare instances where men and women can compete because they are not directly competing against each other. On an NFL field everyone competes directly with everyone on the other. It doesn't matter if 200 men cross the finish line before the first woman in racing. That 201st finisher, if she is the first woman, is just as much the winner as the 1st man was. Mirinda Carfrae is just as much the current Ironman World Champion as Chris McCormack is.

I do, however, fully support any woman who is good enough to play in any professional sports league. If a woman is good enough to pitch in the major leagues or play goalie in the NHL I think they should be able to play in that professional league. You get no argument there from me. There also isn't a double standard in most professional sports because both men and women are allowed single gender leagues. Here, only women are allowed gender-specific races. You also have things like Title IX that mandate equality because women weren't being treated as equal. The problem was addressed not explained away with a balance sheet. On another note though I wouldn't consider golfing at Augusta because they don't allow women and that is just as wrong, IMO, as Disney not allowing men to fully participate.

Most of the Disney films that people point to as sexist or racist are historical stores told at a point in history when those things were unfortunately a fact. A story that takes place in the pre-civil war era and depicts African Americans as slaves isn't racist, it is historical accuracy. A fairytale that takes place in the 17th century and treats women as not equal to men isn't sexist, it is historically accurate. It doesn't matter when a film is made, it matters what point in history the film depicts. It doesn't make those things right but it tells the story from the standpoint that the story would have been told at that point in time. Contemporary stories, absolutely, but then you have characters like Lilo who are contemporary and as far as I know are treated as equal citizens. If there is a modern-time based story that depicts women as inferior that is wrong but at the same time these stories, as bad as they may be, are fiction. Fiction isn't real but I assure you half marathons are real. Al Pacino was portrayed as a murderous drug dealer in Scarface but despite that depiction no one thinks he is actually one.

Most importantly, even though I think they are often not protesting the right thing, those fairytale stories that portray women negatively or those old stories that portray African Americans negatively do get protests, do get boycotts by groups of people, do get books written about their influence on young women. When men are the ones marginalized we don't get those same things and definitely don't get those same things on the same level.

That went kind of long. FWIW I haven't been to a professional sports game in a while. Women have a lot of situations where they are treated unfairly as do homosexuals, minorities, and just about everything else. None of those things are right but all of them get a lot more attention than when men are treated unfairly.

All of this is merely my opinion. I have no problem agreeing to disagree.

Another excellant argument, you guys thought about going into politics?:dance3:
 
There are physical differences in most other sports. And (usually) men are physically better than women by a significant difference. That's why I don't boycott things like the NBA. I would if the women could compete but weren't allowed to. (some are getting pretty close though) I don't boycott the NBA for discriminating against short people either. It's just a physical difference. And age plays the same role. Some sports can be played for 20-30 years (golf) and some maybe a decade (football).

That's the beauty of running. Everyone can run the same race and the slower runners don't really detract from the performance of the elite runners. Everyone can run the Disney marathon, get a PR, get a medal, and walk away happy.

I guess I just think that the trend is bothering me. We (women) fought for years to be allowed to compete. Now we're separating ourselves out again.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a girly girl and these races would never appeal to me on that level anyway. I'd never run a race in wings, or a sparkle skirt, or a tiara. Some of us just don't do pink ;)

+1 and then some!!!

I do use a running skirt because I've found it's the most comfortable for me as the weather warms up, but I'm staying far, far away from "team sparkle" because I absolutely do not want sequins, etc. all over my skirt. My black ones (one with pink trim b/c it's a breast cancer support product) do just fine.
 














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