Gator grabs 2 year old at Grand Floridian?

[Maistre Gracey]

I guess we need a signs throughout the resort saying thunderstorms contain deadly lightning for those who may not be aware.

MG

 

[rteetz]

Huh?? Disney is good, but not good enough to eliminate aligators from the Florida swamps.

MG

No you cannot eliminate alligators from Florida swamps without another one returning at some point. Disney does have a team that removes them you just can't possibly get them all.

 

[LSLS]

Disagree.

Based on what?

 

[kellyjeanie]

I guess we need a signs throughout the resort saying thunderstorms contain deadly lightning for those who may not be aware.

MG

Yes, of course. Lightning is worldwide, and alligators are generally confined to certain areas, but it's totally the same thing.

 

[dlavender]

Huh?? Disney is good, but not good enough to eliminate aligators from the Florida swamps.

MG

Never said they could. Might want to read through. I said they should just make sure people know that they routinely pull 4-5 gators out of that lagoon every day. Let them know that there are alligators in the lagoon. Stay out or assume the risk.

 

[XXRAINMANX]

You are comparing apples to oranges. I am not even entertaining that. you are being ridiculous, you do remember a child died last night on the happiest place on earth right?

im not being rediculous im being logical. theres a difference, and logic says that many things you do on a day to day basis are more likely to result in deatb than this scenario. These things all have warnings or are considered common knowledge. Using this knowledge in regards to yoyr statement leads me to believe the following.

1. IF something happens its not your fault
2. You intend to nolonger do anything because the potential of death is greater than this scenario.

 

[poison ivy]

I guess we need a signs throughout the resort saying thunderstorms contain deadly lightning for those who may not be aware.

MG

if there's a thunderstorm on the beach, movie night is cancelled. No sign needed.
But signage should not be a negative. They can warn us however they wish to, and that should include proper postings around high risk areas.

 

[LizzyS]

I feel like the gator issue will be common knowledge for a while after this incident, signs or no signs.

 

[LSLS]

I don't think that's true. I think apex predators have more regulators than alligators do in Florida, and most apexes are not prolific breeders, so they don't fit into this category, not in the suburbs. In addition, the abundance of alligators thin out large-mouth bass, which are a popular sport fish in Florida. As for the smaller reptiles, there are other predators that are getting edged out by the abundance of alligators.

They did get rid of the Muscovy ducks, which were mean and nasty. But I don't think it was a good trade off.

I know the correct thing to say is to let gators be gators, but at some point any species grows beyond it's feasible limit. In addition, the naturalization of suburban Florida lakes gives then nesting places in areas near people. You can argue that we were wrong to invade and transform their landscape, but the fact is we did, and now nature has to adjust to us, not the other way around. I understand it's not fair or right, but it is the only real option. Florida needs to aggressively cull the number of alligators in suburban areas, because without predators to limit them, the ranks will continue to explode.

An apex predator is the predator at the top of the food chain. There is no more to the definition. And national geo, science, and about every other science publication disagree with you and call them apex predators. They have a vital role in the ecosystem.

 

[angelmav]

I know that people go to great lengths to defend Disney at all costs, but I would have thought that this was ONE clear Instance that they could/should have done more and that people would have agreed. Seems VERY obvious to me, that no decent parent would knowingly let there toddler play somewhere that such a warning was present.

 

[umichigan10]

What a stupid comparison to make. You are just showing your behind with that comment.

I know that people go to great lengths to defend Disney at all costs, but I would have thought that this was ONE clear Instance that they could/should have done more and that people would have agreed. Seems VERY obvious to me, that no decent parent would knowingly let there toddler play somewhere that such a warning was present.

I don't know, I'd like to agree with you but parents let their kids do a lot of stupid stuff at Disney. Climb under railings into shrubbery (snakes there btw), stand on artificial rocks, trash cans to see a parade. Who knows whether a sign would've made a difference

 

[rteetz]

What a stupid comparison to make. You are just showing your behind with that comment.

I know that people go to great lengths to defend Disney at all costs, but I would have thought that this was ONE clear Instance that they could/should have done more and that people would have agreed. Seems VERY obvious to me, that no decent parent would knowingly let there toddler play somewhere that such a warning was present.

He does sort of have a point though. Alligator attacks are not common maybe even rare. Disney hasn't had an alligator related issue since the 1980s and that was the only previous one. There just wasn't a great need for signs especially when Disney routine traps gators in their lakes. In every situation you can say this party should have done more or that party should have done this.

 

[rteetz]

I don't know, I'd like to agree with you but parents let their kids do a lot of stupid stuff at Disney. Climb under railings into shrubbery (snakes there btw), stand on artificial rocks, trash cans to see a parade. Who knows whether a sign would've made a difference

People sometimes swim in the water despite the signs. People also feed alligators which is illegal. Signs don't always prevent everything.

 

[Maleffiecent41]

Okay so I have some information that is pretty interesting on the family. The Dad is a Disney Mutual of Omaha Board Member so you all cannot tell me he had no knowledge of the Florida ecosystem in the park.

 

[mshanson3121]

Even if you have a sign that says don't go near the shoreline that isn't going to stop everyone. Some unfortunately still will do it. Just like some still unfortunately swim in the lakes.

But just because some won't listen, doesn't mean they shouldn't still take that responsibility to warn people.

 

[umichigan10]

People sometimes swim in the water despite the signs. People also feed alligators which is illegal. Signs don't always prevent everything.

I mean I'm not saying legally they shouldn't have a sign or that they didn't have some shortcomings here. But to my knowledge the beaches are usually low lit at night and whatnot which isnt a bright idea to go out on in the first place. I'll just say like I did before, it was an awful incident and I think poking blame too deep at either party is too much

 

[rteetz]

Okay so I have some information that is pretty interesting on the family. The Dad is a Disney Mutual of Omaha Board Member so you all cannot tell me he had no knowledge of the Florida ecosystem in the park.

I don't know if that matters in this case. Many people think Disney is a safe bubble and things like this won't happen. Heck I wouldn't expect a gator to attack my child. It's just not something that commonly happens at Disney let alone the state of Florida.

 

[rteetz]

But just because some won't listen, doesn't mean they shouldn't still take that responsibility to warn people.

I agree I just think you can't really prevent something 100% like this.

 

[angelmav]

I don't know, I'd like to agree with you but parents let their kids do a lot of stupid stuff at Disney. Climb under railings into shrubbery (snakes there btw), stand on artificial rocks, trash cans to see a parade. Who knows whether a sign would've made a difference

The danger level of being at the shore line at night where alligators may be present is significant. To not post a warning to that effect...negligent. Most of the activities you describe, while dangerous, don't carry near the same degree of risk this family was put in by sheer proximity to what amounts to natures loaded weapon.

 

[mrs moon]

I guess we need a signs throughout the resort saying thunderstorms contain deadly lightning for those who may not be aware.

MG

What a stupid thing to say!!!....