Future Adjustments to the Point Charts?

Given the way units are defined, is this possible at most/all resorts? I'm not sure. My understanding is that they can only make adjustments within the constraint that the annual points per declared unit are kept constant. Is that understanding correct? If so, what are the implications at each resort for the possibility of re-balancing studio points vs. those required for 1BRs?

This is my interpretation and it was how reallocations were always done in the past. When DVC saw a very high demand for BWV view or OKW near HH, they made them booking categories but didn't increase their cost.
The first point reallocation across units was the SSR THV reallocation, which increased the THV and decreased different units (2BR). So it's a relatively recent interpretation, many years after the original lawyers drafted the POS.

I know others disagree with me.
But when confronted about it and threatened with legal action, DVC rolled back the 2020 point charts and didn't attempt it again in 2021.
We'll see what will happen. I think DVC realised that there is at least a non zero chance they might lose in case they're challenged in court. The fact they would earn millions from a lockoff premium increase would not play well with a judge. I think that is dead and we'll not see it again.
A reallocation between studios and 1BR that would keep the lockoff premium the same might happen. However 1BR occupy double the space of Studios, so if studios cost more than half a 1BR, then DVD to optimize revenue for space should either:
- build much more studios than 1BR*
- decrease the size of 1BR
Both things would not play well with people who like 1BR. So beware of what you wish for. If you like 1BR it might go against yourself in the long term if they start to allocate more points to studios.

* this is what it's going to happen for the new DLH tower.
 
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The first point reallocation across units was the SSR THV reallocation, which increased the THV and decreased different units (2BR)
Right! I had forgotten that one too. So they don’t need to keep annual points within a unit constant.
 
Likely the best example of changes to their advantage and away from owners is the ability to bank until the last day of the UY for retail but not resale buyers.
Where are you seeing this and when did it change?
I have an Aug UY and in notifications on the member site it says "Now through the end of March 2021, you can bank up to 100% of your annual allotment of Vacation Points." All points were purchased Direct.
 
Where are you seeing this and when did it change?
I have an Aug UY and in notifications on the member site it says "Now through the end of March 2021, you can bank up to 100% of your annual allotment of Vacation Points." All points were purchased Direct.
It's in the POS and it's a one time option as a purchase benefit, not an ongoing option.
 

Where are you seeing this and when did it change?
I have an Aug UY and in notifications on the member site it says "Now through the end of March 2021, you can bank up to 100% of your annual allotment of Vacation Points." All points were purchased Direct.
I think he was saying it was something that cold be done I’d they wanted. Nothing to prevent it in POS as an ongoing blue card perk.

But it does exist for newly purchased direct points. As well as the ability of DVC to unborfow points for newly purchased direct contract.
 
My understanding of what DVC has done and whether it is allowed to (this is quite long) and, like Zavandor, I know others disagree:

To assume DVC has previously done changes that members believe questionable, such as the raising of points year round for the treehouses, means it must have been proper is a legally incorrect assumption. It proves little more than that members failed to sue to challenge the change. The treehouse change actually had far more dangers for Disney if it were sued than simply whether it had the power to raise points year round. Lurking was a possible fraud claim since Disney promoted the treehouse sales by telling potential purchasers that the points were the same as 2BRs and thus you could get a 3BR for the same point cost as a 2BR. Then, as soon as the treehouses reached sell-out level, DVC raised the treehouse points year round by around 15%.

It appears many believe Disney can do virtually anything it wants unless clearly spelled out in the POS documents otherwise. That is not how legal cases usually work in such situations. “Big company” Disney drafted all the POS documents and, when purchasing, the “little guy” members had no ability to negotiate different language. In subsequent legal disputes depending on the meaning of terms in the POS, that would usually mean Disney wins if its alleged meaning of the POS terms is the only reasonable one, but if there is any ambiguity in the language, and the argument for applicable meaning made by the members is also reasonable, the members win. Moreover, the applicable rules are even worse for DVC if the DVC entity authorized to do something on an issue is deemed by law to be a fiduciary when deciding it, which is applicable to DVCM, the management company authorized to make home resort point chart changes. In cases involving a fiduciary as the defendant, the burden of proving that the plaintiff-members position on the issues is wrong, and of accepting DVCM’s argument that its interpretation is the only reasonable one, would be shifted to DVCM, requiring it to essentially disprove the plaintiff’s case to win.

That would be an argument that bears on the issue of whether DVC, actually DVCM, can actually just raise points year round for studios, potentially by shifting to stuios points from larger rooms, to solve the problem of excess demand for studios – a problem created, to a substantial degree, by DVD’s modern sales practices which started during the Great Recession, when it lowered new purchase point requirements from 160 to 100, and at times 50 and 75 points, while, over the next 10-year period, it (a) continuously increased the new purchase prices far beyond anything that would be considered reasonable in relation to the inflation rate during that period (prices have risen 100% over that ten years), (b) introduced new resorts with much higher per-point-per-night requirements than the older resorts, thus further increasing the actual price per stay for any new member, and (c) adding high-point cost bungalows and cabins to give it a lot of extra points that could be sold to those buying only enough points to get smaller rooms, including studios, while also giving it many such high-cost rooms to rent during the breakage period for profit, while the members pay almost all the maintenance fees and taxes for those rooms. For DVC to choose raising the annual points applicable to studios to correct DVD’s “oversell” of studios would be a questionable act for a company having a fiduciary obligation to the members.

The POS’s, by legal definition, include almost anything in writing given to new purchasers at the time of sale. It thus includes the DVC Membership Agreement, which is a document that mainly controls what DVC can do to raise or lower points. DVCM, the management company, is the entity responsible for making any home resort point changes. By law, it acts a fiduciary of the members whenever it makes any changes.

The Membership Agreement initially provides the general rule that total points required to reserve all rooms during all days of the use year must always be equal. It then does not specifically say the words that if studios are raised for part of the year, then studios must be lowered for the other parts of the year in an equal amount. That absence of absolute language appears to convince many, who apparently incorrectly believe that all ambiguities are to be construed against the members, that DVCM, the fiduciary, can lower studio demand by moving points year round from other room sizes to studios.

But the terms of the Membership Agreement (using BWV as an example) indicate otherwise:

1. The agreement states only that DVCM has that power to raise or lower the points needed for any given Use Day in a Vacation Home ( a term defined as a room such as a studio) due to fluctuations in Use Day demand. Note how it says nothing about a power to change points to correct fluctuations in room-size demand among different-sized Vacation Homes.

2. It then states that “any increase or decrease in the Home Resort Vacation Point reservation requirement for a given Use Day pursuant to DVCM’s right to make this Home Resort Vacation Point adjustment must be offset by a corresponding decrease or increase for another Use Day or Days.” (Emphais added.) That clearly prohibits DVCM from raising points needed for a studio year round while removing points from larger-sized rooms for the same periods of time, and implies that any increase of points in one-sized room needs to be offset by a decrease on “other” use days for the same-sized room.

3. It also states that the total number of points applicable to a unit (usually a combination of rooms) cannot be changed due to such reallocations, which also indicates that the total annual applicable to a particular sized room must remain the same, e.g., BWV has units that actually consist of only dedicated studios.

4. Then there are the maximum reallocation provisions, which state that a maximum reallocation of points could potentially occur, meaning every day of the year for a particular room size could cost the same points, but it provides a guaranteed number for reserving each given room size for a night if such occurred, e.g., in BWV 15 points for a standard view studio, 18 for a preferred view, etc. higher numbers for larger rooms. Moreover, to participate in an external exchange program, which requires a member to provide a week to get a week in return, the agreement provides weekly total of points needed to be paid for every week of the year if there is a maximum reallocation, e.g., 210 points for a BWV standard 1BR. Those totals numbers for the year add-up, at resorts like BWV, to what the annual points needed to reserve a particular-sized room at the resort have been for the entire year. Thus, that provides further evidence that total points applicable to a particular-sized room category for the year needs to remain the same regardless of what point changes are made.

Another document of importance in the POS is Exhibit A to the Master Cotenancy Agreement, entitled Real Estate Interest and Point Formulation, which describes the method to be used by DVCM to determine total points for the year applicable to a Vacation Home, and , in particular, points out that a major factor for determining how many total points apply to a Vacation home for the year depends on its square footage, meaning total points for the year for any particular vacation home had to vary from those for a larger vacation home by a constant factor that is consistent with the different sizes of those rooms. Thus, it is another provision that indicates DVCM cannot be moving points from one-sized vacation home to another. At BWV, for example, it is why 1BRs have always required about double the points of a studio. Note, however, that Poly and CCV POS’s do not have that exhibit, likely because the required difference according to square feet is not consistent with having the super-costly bungalows and cabins which have only 2BRs.

Added to the above evidence are: (a) oral statements made at time of sale, particularly involving the earlier resorts, that point changes would occur only to meet changes in seasonal demand and if points were raised for one season they would be lowered by an equal amount for the same room in another season; (b) written representations provided at the time of sale, called a Product Understanding Checklist (or similar) to give DVD’s own summary of the major terms of the POS, which, particularly during the sales of earlier resorts, such as BWV, clearly limited such point-shifting to doing those that address changes in seasonal demand, not room-size demand; (c) the fact that DVC itself, for more than two decades, followed the understanding that it could not shift points among different-size rooms.

All of the above are points that I mentioned in correspondence to, and a phone call with DVC, in January 2019 to support my belief that its decision to adopt 2020 point charts that raised points year round for studios and 1BRs was improper. Others made similar arguments and DVC reversed its decision, while asserting it believed it still had the right to do what it did.

In above posts are references to changes to the units at Vero with the implication that DVC could do that and rearrange points. I am unaware of any actual unit changes, which would require actual changes to the POS documents, and cannot find any applicable public records. If they can be found, please let me know where.

At Vero, DVC did fairly recently create standard and preferred view booking categories for inn rooms. The same happened not long ago at SSR for all rooms other than treehouses. I personally believe DVC may have improperly performed both those Vero and SSR changes for a reason in addition to anything mentioned above that might apply, but no one has challenged those changes, probably because many think them beneficial. It appears DVC made the changes by doing nothing to the POS documents. They are just changes made to the reservation system with no reference to any document that allows it, calling into question whether DVC even asked its outside lawyers to be involved.

The DVC Membership Agreements for those resorts are supposed to tell you (a) whether there are standard and preferred view rooms, (b) set out the applicable differences for such rooms in the maximum reallocation provisions, and (c) determine for which vacation homes DVCM actually has the right to make point changes. Other resorts with standard and preferred room categories set out that difference in the membership agreements. No changes were made to the Vero or SSR agreements to reflect the change to standard and preferred vacation homes, and, since points actually did change for those booking categories, that is unlike when DVC created boardwalk view at BWV or near Hospitality House at OKW, which left points the same for the rooms, and thus could be made merely as a reservation booking change, not requiring a change to the POS documents. But the changes for Vero and SSR raise an issue as to whether DVCM had any arguable power at all to do what was done.
 
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I have owned at VB since 2004, and there always was a standard ( garden parking lot view) and ocean view Rooms in the Inn. What has changed is that the studios were the same number of points as ocean view. Now there are three categories, each with a set amount of points. That was a recent change.
 
Thanks from me too, @drusba. I have bookmarked your post because I think it’s possible I will refer people to it in future. I really appreciate your detailed analyses and explanations.
 
My understanding of what DVC has done and whether it is allowed to (this is quite long) and, like Zavandor, I know others disagree:

To assume DVC has previously done changes that members believe questionable, such as the raising of points year round for the treehouses, means it must have been proper is a legally incorrect assumption. It proves little more than that members failed to sue to challenge the change. The treehouse change actually had far more dangers for Disney if it were sued than simply whether it had the power to raise points year round. Lurking was a possible fraud claim since Disney promoted the treehouse sales by telling potential purchasers that the points were the same as 2BRs and thus you could get a 3BR for the same point cost as a 2BR. Then, as soon as the treehouses reached sell-out level, DVC raised the treehouse points year round by around 15%.

It appears many believe Disney can do virtually anything it wants unless clearly spelled out in the POS documents otherwise. That is not how legal cases usually work in such situations. “Big company” Disney drafted all the POS documents and, when purchasing, the “little guy” members had no ability to negotiate different language. In subsequent legal disputes depending on the meaning of terms in the POS, that would usually mean Disney wins if its alleged meaning of the POS terms is the only reasonable one, but if there is any ambiguity in the language, and the argument for applicable meaning made by the members is also reasonable, the members win. Moreover, the applicable rules are even worse for DVC if the DVC entity authorized to do something on an issue is deemed by law to be a fiduciary when deciding it, which is applicable to DVCM, the management company authorized to make home resort point chart changes. In cases involving a fiduciary as the defendant, the burden of proving that the plaintiff-members position on the issues is wrong, and of accepting DVCM’s argument that its interpretation is the only reasonable one, would be shifted to DVCM, requiring it to essentially disprove the plaintiff’s case to win.

That would be an argument that bears on the issue of whether DVC, actually DVCM, can actually just raise points year round for studios, potentially by shifting all such points to larger rooms, to solve the problem of excess demand for studios – a problem created, to a substantial degree, by DVD’s modern sales practices which started during the Great Recession, when it lowered new purchase point requirements from 160 to 100, and at times 50 and 75 points, while, over the next 10-year period, it (a) continuously increased the new purchase prices far beyond anything that would be considered reasonable in relation to the inflation rate during that period (prices have risen 100% over that ten years), (b) introduced new resorts with much higher per-point-per-night requirements than the older resorts, thus further increasing the actual price per stay for any new member, and (c) adding high-point cost bungalows and cabins to give it a lot of extra points that could be sold to those buying only enough points to get smaller rooms, including studios, while also giving it many such high-cost rooms to rent during the breakage period for profit, while the members pay almost all the maintenance fees and taxes for those rooms. For DVC to choose raising the annual points applicable to studios to correct DVD’s “oversell” of studios would be a questionable act for a company having a fiduciary obligation to the members.

The POS’s, by legal definition, include almost anything in writing given to new purchasers at the time of sale. It thus includes the DVC Membership Agreement, which is a document that mainly controls what DVC can do to raise or lower points. DVCM, the management company, is the entity responsible for making any home resort point changes. By law, it acts a fiduciary of the members whenever it makes any changes.

The Membership Agreement initially provides the general rule that total points required to reserve all rooms during all days of the use year must always be equal. It then does not specifically say the words that if studios are raised for part of the year, then studios must be lowered for the other parts of the year in an equal amount. That absence of absolute language appears to convince many, who apparently incorrectly believe that all ambiguities are to be construed against the members, that DVCM, the fiduciary, can lower studio demand by moving points year round from studios to other rooms.

But the terms of the Membership Agreement (using BWV as an example) indicate otherwise:

1. The agreement states only that DVCM has that power to raise or lower the points needed for any given Use Day in a Vacation Home ( a term defined as a room such as a studio) due to fluctuations in Use Day demand. Note how it says nothing about a power to change points to correct fluctuations in room-size demand among different-sized Vacation Homes.

2. It then states that “any increase or decrease in the Home Resort Vacation Point reservation requirement for a given Use Day pursuant to DVCM’s right to make this Home Resort Vacation Point adjustment must be offset by a corresponding decrease or increase for another Use Day or Days.” (Emphais added.) That clearly prohibits DVCM from raising points needed for a studio year round while moving those points to larger-sized rooms for the same periods of time, and implies that any increase of points in one-sized room needs to be offset by a decrease on “other” use days for the same-sized room.

3. It also states that the total number of points applicable to a unit (usually a combination of rooms) cannot be changed due to such reallocations, which also indicates that the total annual applicable to a particular sized room must remain the same, e.g., BWV has units that actually consist of only dedicated studios.

4. Then there are the maximum reallocation provisions, which state that a maximum reallocation of points could potentially occur, meaning every day of the year for a particular room size could cost the same points, but it provides a guaranteed number for reserving each given room size for a night if such occurred, e.g., in BWV 15 points for a standard view studio, 18 for a preferred view, etc. higher numbers for larger rooms. Moreover, to participate in an external exchange program, which requires a member to provide a week to get a week in return, the agreement provides weekly total of points needed to be paid for every week of the year if there is a maximum reallocation, e.g., 210 points for a BWV standard 1BR. Those totals numbers for the year add-up, at resorts like BWV, to what the annual points needed to reserve a particular-sized room at the resort have been for the entire year Thus, that provides further evidence that total points applicable to a particular-sized room category for the year needs to remain the same regardless of what point changes are made.

Another document of importance in the POS is Exhibit A to the Master Cotenancy Agreement, entitled Real Estate Interest and Point Formulation, which describes the method to be used by DVCM to determine total points for the year applicable to a Vacation Home, and , in particular, points out that a major factor for determining how many total points apply to a Vacation home for the year depends on its square footage, meaning total points for the year for any particular vacation home had to vary from those for a larger vacation home by a constant factor that is consistent with the different sizes of those rooms. Thus, it is another provision that indicates DVCM cannot be moving points from one-sized vacation home to another. At BWV, for example, it is why 1BRs have always required about double the points of a studio. Note, however, that Poly and CCV POS’s do not have that exhibit, likely because the required difference according to square feet is not consistent with having the super-costly bungalows and cabins which have only 2BRs.

Added to the above evidence are: (a) oral statements made at time of sale, particularly involving the earlier resorts, that point changes would occur only to meet changes in seasonal demand and if points were raised for one season they would be lowered by an equal amount for the same room in another season; (b) written representations provided at the time of sale, called a Product Understanding Checklist (or similar) to give DVD’s own summary of the major terms of the POS, which, particularly during the sales of earlier resorts, such as BWV, clearly limited such point-shifting to doing those that address changes in seasonal demand, not room-size demand; (c) the fact that DVC itself, for more than two decades, followed the understanding that it could not shift points among different-size rooms.

All of the above are points that I mentioned in correspondence to, and a phone call with DVC, in January 2019 to support my belief that its decision to adopt 2020 point charts that raised points year round for studios and 1BRs was improper. Others made similar arguments and DVC reversed its decision, while asserting it believed it still had the right to do what it did.

In above posts are references to changes to the units at Vero with the implication that DVC could do that and rearrange points. I am unaware of any actual unit changes, which would require actual changes to the POS documents, and cannot find any applicable public records. If they can be found, please let me know where.

At Vero, DVC did fairly recently create standard and preferred view booking categories for inn rooms. The same happened not long ago at SSR for all rooms other than treehouses. I personally believe DVC may have improperly performed both those Vero and SSR changes for a reason in addition to anything mentioned above that might apply, but no one has challenged those changes, probably because many think them beneficial. It appears DVC made the changes by doing nothing to the POS documents. They are just changes made to the reservation system with no reference to any document that allows it, calling into question whether DVC even asked its outside lawyers to be involved.

The DVC Membership Agreements for those resorts are supposed to tell you (a) whether there are standard and preferred view rooms, (b) set out the applicable differences for such rooms in the maximum reallocation provisions, and (c) determine for which vacation homes DVCM actually has the right to make point changes. Other resorts with standard and preferred room categories set out that difference in the membership agreements. No changes were made to the Vero or SSR agreements to reflect the change to standard and preferred vacation homes, and, since points actually did change for those booking categories, that is unlike when DVC created boardwalk view at BWV or near Hospitality House at OKW, which left points the same for the rooms, and thus could be made merely as a reservation booking change, not requiring a change to the POS documents. But the changes for Vero and SSR raise an issue as to whether DVCM had any arguable power at all to do what was done.
Thanks for the thoughtful post. As we all went through before, interpretations are different. Spending time at that time with all 3 POS that I have, I came to different conclusions but I understand how one could take it that way. As noted, they have already reallocated across room types. Plus clearly any protections extend only to full villas, not the lockoff components. But ultimately there are only 2 interpretations that really matter. DVCMC's and if legal action is pursued, the ultimate outcome there. The next few years should be interesting.
 
To assume DVC has previously done changes that members believe questionable, such as the raising of points year round for the treehouses, means it must have been proper is a legally incorrect assumption.
I should have restated my conclusion. Instead of "So they don’t need to keep annual points within a unit constant," I should have said: "So DVCMC's lawyers believe they aren't legally obligated to keep annual points within a unit constant."
 
The Treehouses were shady because when they sold the points that became available, they said isn’t this great, same as a 2 bedroom. Then as soon as they sold out, points went up.
 
The Treehouses were shady because when they sold the points that became available, they said isn’t this great, same as a 2 bedroom. Then as soon as they sold out, points went up.
I was so angry, wrote a few complaints. It was my first huge disappointment in DVC. Well, maybe not...when they took real mugs and glasses out of studios, that got me very angry too. That at least didn’t last.
 
But when confronted about it and threatened with legal action, DVC rolled back the 2020 point charts and didn't attempt it again in 2021.
We'll see what will happen. I think DVC realised that there is at least a non zero chance they might lose in case they're challenged in court. The fact they would earn millions from a lockoff premium increase would not play well with a judge. I think that is dead and we'll not see it again.
A reallocation between studios and 1BR that would keep the lockoff premium the same might happen. However 1BR occupy double the space of Studios, so if studios cost more than half a 1BR, then DVD to optimize revenue for space should either:
- build much more studios than 1BR*
- decrease the size of 1BR
Both things would not play well with people who like 1BR. So beware of what you wish for. If you like 1BR it might go against yourself in the long term if they start to allocate more points to studios.

* this is what it's going to happen for the new DLH tower.

I also think the lock-off premium increase is dead whether the POS technically allows it or not. It does not seem to allow it for resorts that have either dedicated 1 or 2BR's so then it gets sticky for DVC to do it for some resorts but not all. I think it's unlikely they want to jump in that pen again - or at least not while there's owners around who remember it and will keep an eye out for it.

The studio/1BR pricing - the square footage is likely why they decided double made sense but it's actually only one metric. What about occupancy? It's not like it's double that of studios and at some resorts it's now less than the studios. That brings it around to demand IMO and it's higher for studios than 1BR's and really does need to be a factor. After PVB it seems like DVC does agree that 1BR's (and 2BR's) are important to have as a part of the system. And look at 2BR's that are not triple the points for a studio nor triple the occupancy but they are normally at least double the occupancy of a 1BR. 1BR's have probably carried far more than their fair share of the load for the entire life of DVC. Demand for balancing is really the only way to look at it to get a proper correction. Square footage is important to DVC in the build but for use of the system it drops lower in consideration IMO.

DVC wants to build high point requirement studio only resorts. Throwing in a crazy priced bungalow or GV is probably ok. A lot of buyers want large units. The balancing is the issue and for whatever reason DVC has not done the best job at that IMO.
 
I also think the lock-off premium increase is dead whether the POS technically allows it or not. It does not seem to allow it for resorts that have either dedicated 1 or 2BR's so then it gets sticky for DVC to do it for some resorts but not all. I think it's unlikely they want to jump in that pen again - or at least not while there's owners around who remember it and will keep an eye out for it.

The studio/1BR pricing - the square footage is likely why they decided double made sense but it's actually only one metric. What about occupancy? It's not like it's double that of studios and at some resorts it's now less than the studios. That brings it around to demand IMO and it's higher for studios than 1BR's and really does need to be a factor. After PVB it seems like DVC does agree that 1BR's (and 2BR's) are important to have as a part of the system. And look at 2BR's that are not triple the points for a studio nor triple the occupancy but they are normally at least double the occupancy of a 1BR. 1BR's have probably carried far more than their fair share of the load for the entire life of DVC. Demand for balancing is really the only way to look at it to get a proper correction. Square footage is important to DVC in the build but for use of the system it drops lower in consideration IMO.

DVC wants to build high point requirement studio only resorts. Throwing in a crazy priced bungalow or GV is probably ok. A lot of buyers want large units. The balancing is the issue and for whatever reason DVC has not done the best job at that IMO.
There is no requirement for square footage to match up to points even though that's the way DVD has set things up in the past. IMO the premium differential was strange as I believe there are better ways to even out usage. Just adjust between the studio & 1BR as needed and if necessary, designate a certain number of lockout's as 2 BR only. I guess they could also put in a differential between lockout's and dedicated units but I don't see that happening.
 
Let's not put too much faith in the DVC legal department. When the Riviera POS was published, the paragraph for the new resale restrictions said that existing resale owners or owners who purchased a contract from current owners would still be able to trade into Riviera. It seemed odd that "2nd generation" resale purchasers would be grandfathered in so people enquired and they changed the wording of the POS. It took the DIS community 5 minutes to spot the problem, how their lawyers didn't find it is quite suprising. Or maybe that was what the lawyers wanted to write (to avoid dimishing the value of current owners contracts) and instead DVC changed it without legal advice. I do not trust that every action made by DVC is 100% legal and/or vetted by lawyers.
 
The chances that no in-house counsel weighed in on the SSR reallocation seem....low. I mean, maybe? But this is a company that owns its own local government and wrote the legislation that enabled it out of whole cloth, within a corporate culture that is notoriously risk-averse.

Again: just because legal thinks something is okay doesn't make it okay, but they are probably not shooting from the hip. Mistakes and missing a sentence here or there? Sure. Big mistakes? Yes. But they are the exceptions, not the rule.
 
The chances that no in-house counsel weighed in on the SSR reallocation seem....low. I mean, maybe? But this is a company that owns its own local government and wrote the legislation that enabled it out of whole cloth, within a corporate culture that is notoriously risk-averse.

Again: just because legal thinks something is okay doesn't make it okay, but they are probably not shooting from the hip. Mistakes and missing a sentence here or there? Sure. Big mistakes? Yes. But they are the exceptions, not the rule.
I work in a legal department. You would be shocked with the kinds of things the business teams will do without consulting legal. Yes, the protocol is probably for them to have legal vet their plans, but that doesn't always happen. Also, legal just advises of the risks. If the business is comfortable taking the risk to do something, they may still do it despite what legal says provided they get approval from the CEO.
 



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