Funny headline about women's dressing room incident

[JessicaR]

Yes, Disney should seperate the areas, so in one room the can decently change in the clothing, and then they can walk into another so that way their spouses can see them.

Disney should separate the areas? Did I miss something?

 

[Liberty Belle]

Yes, Disney should seperate the areas, so in one room the can decently change in the clothing, and then they can walk into another so that way their spouses can see them.

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[Disney Doll]

If I was in a store that allowed men to go into the ladies fitting room I would not be making any purchases in that store and I would make sure I told them why.

 

[Planogirl]

I think that DisneyNicole might mean that the dressing rooms should have two areas: one for trying on clothes and another for modeling those clothes to a spouse or whoever. I wouldn't mind that even if I think it's pointless. The man can also wait outside the dressing room if he needs to see the new clothing.

 

[dislaney]

If I was in a store that allowed men to go into the ladies fitting room I would not be making any purchases in that store and I would make sure I told them why.

I agree. If others don't have a problem with it that is fine with me but I prefer to change without men I don't know in my fitting room.

 

[NHdisneylover]

The cut-off should be when the child can dress him/her self. Then they need to start using the appropriate room and the opposite sex parent can wait outside. If they have a problem with this, then get a person of the same sex as the child to go with you to help.

Although, I would be leery of little girls (unless really young) going into a men's restroom due to non private urinals.

Okay--I can pretty much agree that any child old enough to dress themselves should be fine to use a public fitting room or restroom alone. However, there have been (at least) 2 recent threads about boys accompanying their mothers into the restroom and many people seem to think even kids 11 or 12 should be allowed to do so because it is dangerous for them to use the men's room alone. Why is (to many people not you per se) using the restroom dangerous for a male child but not using the fitting room? I just don't get it.

Besides, old enough toe dress themselves is still iffy. DS is 11. He has some find motor skill issues. He still struggles with belts and buttons at times. I think he is clearly to old to use the ladies' room though. I just tell him to take his time, or tuck the ends of the belt into the loops and come out (fully covered) and we will find a quiet corner for me to help him with it outside.

 

[torinsmom]

I do not consider the 20 year old perv in the article a child. I am speaking of "child" as a young person who does not yet understand(in a more than giggly way) how women and men are different. Once a male or female can get a thrill from seeing the private parts of the other sex, they are too old to be in the fitting room or rest room with them. Each child is different, but I think around 8-9 years old should be the cut off, unless there is a disability of some sort. Especially in a busy store (or at Disney), nothing is going to happen to your child in there.

When my son was younger I used to tell him to use a stall in the men's room, but then I read an assault is more likely to occur there due to visibility. So I told him to use the urinal, wash his hands and come right out. The biggest thing at Disney is that some bathrooms have two entrances/exits, so he was to go back in if he did not see me when he came out, and find different exit. My child would have peed in his pants before he would have gone into the women's room after about age 6. I'm a single mom, so I had to make peace with him going in alone. I did ask a man with a child to check on him once when he was taking too long though.

Marsha

 

[bicker]

Who gets to decide that?

In the end, it all boils down to this question, and the only answers that fly are the ones that are reflexive. In other words, if the answer involves applying someone's personal values onto others, then it must also involve applying the personal values of those others onto that someone, and generally that results in the preferences cancelling each other out. So often all anyone can legitimately assert is what the law explicitly states, because we all implicitly agree to comply with the law, as a precondition for living in our society. The assertion of expectations onto others, with regard to how they parent their children, with regard to which gender they identify with and therefore which dressing room they use, with regard to how they support their spouse or partner in making clothing choices, etc. - everything - is perhaps a fun diversion, but there really is no legitimate foundation for it.

 

[wvjules]

It is definitely not OK for a grown man to be in a ladies dressing room area or a ladies restroom. And personally, I would never take a girl of any age into a dressing area intended for males. But since you seem to be saying that it should not be a concern to be around strange males while a female is partially clothed then why should you have a problem with young girls around men changing clothes. This sounds like a double standard. It is OK for someone else to have to change clothes with an adult male hanging by the door but you don't want a young girl to be around men changing.

And by the way, neither of your situations is OK as far as I am concerned.

As far as the age thing goes, the pervert in the story in my original post was 20 years old. That age is not considered an adult in some instances so I don't think that you can say we shouldn't be concerned unless we are only dealing with an adult.

I was playing Devil's advocate with that situation. I have no problem with opposite genders in dressing rooms with doors (not curtains).

 

[luvmy3]

Disney should separate the areas? Did I miss something?

No, everything is really about Disney

 

[NHdisneylover]

In the end, it all boils down to this question, and the only answers that fly are the ones that are reflexive. In other words, if the answer involves applying someone's personal values onto others, then it must also involve applying the personal values of those others onto that someone, and generally that results in the preferences cancelling each other out. So often all anyone can legitimately assert is what the law explicitly states, because we all implicitly agree to comply with the law, as a precondition for living in our society. The assertion of expectations onto others, with regard to how they parent their children, with regard to which gender they identify with and therefore which dressing room they use, with regard to how they support their spouse or partner in making clothing choices, etc. - everything - is perhaps a fun diversion, but there really is no legitimate foundation for it.

It was a rhetorical question meant to emphasize the same point but not in such a long winded way Thanks for "clarifying" anyway I guess

 

[MushyMushy]

I don't understand the lack of respect for privacy nowadays. It's fine if YOU don't mind men being in the ladies dressing room but others do. They have the right to that privacy in a dressing room designated for women. It's not for "women and some men" or "women who want to bring in men" or men pretending to be women or whatever - it's for women. And stores who are too cowardly to enforce this are the most pathetic of all.

Amen!

There is absolutely nothing uptight or wrong with me because I want a little privacy when I'm dressing. Yes, stores where I shop still use curtains and some of them have doors where you can see around the edges (like some bathroom stalls).

The solution for women who need a man's approval for her clothing and girls who can't manage dressing on their own is to take the clothes home to try them on, then return them if they don't work out. It's usually not a difficulty. I do it all the time in places where I'm uncomfortable with the fitting rooms and have never once had a problem with the return.

 

[bicker]

It was a rhetorical question meant to emphasize the same point but not in such a long winded way

I love agreeing!

 

[NHdisneylover]

I love agreeing!

It is a nice, albeit rare on the DIS, feeling isn't it.

 

[bicker]

I dunno... last week within 24 hours I found myself enthusiastically agreeing with three different users who had been on my Ignore list in the past.

 

[NHdisneylover]

I dunno... last week within 24 hours I found myself enthusiastically agreeing with three different users who had been on my Ignore list in the past.

I have never put anyone on ignore--didn't even know about it until a few months ago. I HAVE found that eventually I end up agreeing with just baout everyone (which sometimes amazes--and frightens me). It is good to know that common ground exist almost anywhere if you look long enough (now some people I agree with a heck of a lot more than others though)

 

[Disney Doll]

I have less of a problem with a child being in a ladies dressing or fitting room...my definition of "child" is under age 13. Although most kids I know wouldn't be caught dead in an "opposite gender" rest or fitting room after about age 11, I realize that there are some special instances where it might be a necessity.

I have a huge problem with an adult male being in a ladies fitting room. If a woman can't make a decision on clothing without her spouse/partner's opinion/aaproval, then she should buy all the clothing she wants and bring it home and have a fashion show for him at home, then return what he doesn't like or approve of. If a single father has to take his daughter shopping, I would recommend the same strategy...buy clothing and have her try it on at home. An alternative would be to have Dad waiting outside the main entrance to the entire fitting room, in the store, and have the child step to the main entrance dressed in the outfit for Dad's approval.

Frankly (and thankfully) the LAST thing my husband wants to do is go clothes shopping with me, so this will never be an issue for us. I certainly would not remain in a fitting room where adult males were roaming through.

 

[cteddiesgirl]

I have never put anyone on ignore--didn't even know about it until a few months ago. I HAVE found that eventually I end up agreeing with just baout everyone (which sometimes amazes--and frightens me). It is good to know that common ground exist almost anywhere if you look long enough (now some people I agree with a heck of a lot more than others though)

I also don't use the ignore feature. Like you, there are times when I'll completely disagree with someone. But other times, I'll find myself agreeing with the same person about another topic.

 

[Metsfan520]

I don't understand the lack of respect for privacy nowadays. It's fine if YOU don't mind men being in the ladies dressing room but others do. They have the right to that privacy in a dressing room designated for women. It's not for "women and some men" or "women who want to bring in men" or men pretending to be women or whatever - it's for women. And stores who are too cowardly to enforce this are the most pathetic of all.

Amen.

 

[JerseyJanice]

So, my ex shouldn't be allowed to go into the fiiting room area when he takes my 7 & 9 year old DDs shopping???? Should they go in by themselves, or should my little girls go into the men's fitting rooms? What do you suggest? Enlighten me please.

Take your daughters shopping yourself. I'm having a tough time believing that there are men in the world who take their 7 and 9 DDs clothes shopping. Even getting past that, does he actually believe he should be allowed in a woman's fitting room?