Ft. Wilderness Cabins becoming DVC?

[E2ME2]

I am holding a CyberTruck reservation. It is part of my retirement plan (17 months). One of us already uses a scooter. The thinking is we will drive our scooters up the CyberTruck ramp and tell our truck to drive to a park! We are waiting for Rosie Robot to make our lives easier.

I put in a reservation for a CyberTruck also - right before I retired- and still waiting !!
In the meantime, I'm leasing a GMC. It was the only NEW PickUp truck available during the "Chip Shortage".
Maybe one day soon, we will roll up together in our CyberTrucks to stay in these new FW Cabins(Trailers)

 

[Cybertruck]

I put in a reservation for a CyberTruck also - right before I retired- and still waiting !!
In the meantime, I'm leasing a GMC. It was the only NEW PickUp truck available during the "Chip Shortage".
Maybe one day soon, we will roll up together in our CyberTrucks to stay in these new FW Cabins(Trailers)

Yes, that was my plan. Have it paid off before I retire. I have a RAM 2500 with 8 foot bed (pre Chip Shortage). It is a beast but has served us well. I am a huge fan of the Camo Wrap. Yes, it would be interesting to pull up to the TFW and see multiple CyberTrucks.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Do you really think Poly 2 is going to open before 2025? Seems very unlikely

If you look at what VDH looked like a year ago, Poly is not that different today. Seems plausible to me,

 

[scottiesumms]

any guesses about what pricing will be? Add-onitis already in full effect

I've researched historic per point prices, and most show the price before incentives (I figure it would be difficult to keep track of the variety of incentives offered). I just bought VGF last month, and I haven't paid too close attention to DVC prices over the years.

Do you think it'll be $217pp with incentives similar or better than VGF or a lower price per point due to its "moderateness?"

Not sure how other resorts have been priced vs the general price per point at the time they went live.

 

[Sandisw]

any guesses about what pricing will be? Add-onitis already in full effect

I've researched historic per point prices, and most show the price before incentives (I figure it would be difficult to keep track of the variety of incentives offered). I just bought VGF last month, and I haven't paid too close attention to DVC prices over the years.

Do you think it'll be $217pp with incentives similar or better than VGF or a lower price per point due to its "moderateness?"

Not sure how other resorts have been priced vs the general price per point at the time they went live.

I would expect that $217 to go up by then. They typically raise it once a year…sometimes it’s be at the 9 month mark and the $217 went in effect in Dec 2022…

Plus VDH started at $230…so my guess is it is going to start there…and of course, will have incentives but don’t think we will see them get to where VGF is today.

 

[ehh]

Cabins at Fort Wilderness DVC not included in the “Upcoming Parks and Experiences Openings & Events” slide from the earnings presentation:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689501691610271745

 

[pinkxray]

Cabins at Fort Wilderness DVC not included in the “Upcoming Parks and Experiences Openings & Events” slide from the earnings presentation:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689501691610271745

That is interesting
Also interesting is that there is really nothing new coming to WDW anytime soon. The Moana attraction might be nice but it’s not a ride or anything great. Other parks get Frozenland and Zootopia land and we have nothing to look forward to.

Disney really needs to get it together. The blue sky projects would be nice if they ever get done, but at the rate they are going I’ll be taking my grandkids vs my DD6 and DS8. The resort refurbs are running behind, they start and stop so when booking you have no idea if you will be in a construction zone or not. The cake shop at Boardwalk is crawling along, Park Fare isn’t open. They need to start moving on this stuff.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Cabins at Fort Wilderness DVC not included in the “Upcoming Parks and Experiences Openings & Events” slide from the earnings presentation:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689501691610271745

Because they’re spending so little money on it they forgot about it.

 

[Sandisw]

Cabins at Fort Wilderness DVC not included in the “Upcoming Parks and Experiences Openings & Events” slide from the earnings presentation:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1689501691610271745

Here is what I picked up on. May or may not mean a thing but changes my confidence regarding Poly tower.

For VDH, it’s says a new DVC resort but for the tower just says Disney Vacation club at Poly Resort.

It doesn’t connect it to PVB and only the resort..but the word new is not there either.

So, is this still just being careful to keep us guessing or is it a clue?

I will say my 95% new is now back down to leaning new but not as confident as before.

 

[🍀TwinsMom]

I'm frankly going to be pissed if Poly 2.0 is not a new resort with restrictions. At that point Poly 2.0 opens we'll be going on five years selling Riviera with restrictions being the only resort penalized. VDH doesn't count, IMO, since it's at DL and is its own unicorn project.

 

[zavandor]

That is interesting
Also interesting is that there is really nothing new coming to WDW anytime soon. The Moana attraction might be nice but it’s not a ride or anything great. Other parks get Frozenland and Zootopia land and we have nothing to look forward to.

Disney really needs to get it together. The blue sky projects would be nice if they ever get done, but at the rate they are going I’ll be taking my grandkids vs my DD6 and DS8. The resort refurbs are running behind, they start and stop so when booking you have no idea if you will be in a construction zone or not. The cake shop at Boardwalk is crawling along, Park Fare isn’t open. They need to start moving on this stuff.

No rush.
If Disney confirms Moana land for AK today, they'll start designing it in 2024. Close impacted areas in 2025, start digging in 2026, go vertical in 2027, end construction in 2032 and open it in 2033. Current BWV and other 2042 resorts will still be able to use their membership to stay at WDW and experience it!
Villains land will probably open in time for inauguration of the new SSR refurbished in 2055.

 

[Nursemanit]

The DVC cabins may go the way of reflections if they keep not mentioning it and not starting work…

With the sales numbers down they may want to sell what they have first.

 

[Cybertruck]

That would be sad. At the very least I want to see the walkway between FW and WL return.

 

[Cfabar1]

Guides continue to mention the cabins, but then again, they are likely the last to know....

I'm not eager for Poly sales.... we might get a small contract, but I'm more inclined to buy more VGF points, especially if they are part of the same association... Poly has the worst points chart out of all of them, and is not the closest to a park nor the flagship resort....

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Are people questioning whether the cabins will happen? Yes! They definitely will. The old ones have reached end of life and Disney doesn’t want to pay to replace them. Hence, DVC.

 

[ehh]

Are people questioning whether the cabins will happen? Yes! They definitely will. The old ones have reached end of life and Disney doesn’t want to pay to replace them. Hence, DVC.

And the margins on doing so are better than normal. Everything shouts "DVC CFW makes sense".

And yet they left it off the slide

 

[Mikey15]

I'm frankly going to be pissed if Poly 2.0 is not a new resort with restrictions. At that point Poly 2.0 opens we'll be going on five years selling Riviera with restrictions being the only resort penalized. VDH doesn't count, IMO, since it's at DL and is its own unicorn project.

All about the long game, IMO, even if in the meantime it makes things awkward for selling 6 million Riv points...

(Riv's really been put through the ringer... the first restrictions resort, conceptually tied to the Skyliner which had its big little crash incident a month before Riv opened, a global pandemic a few months after it opened, things starting to go back to normal and then inflation and interest rates skyrocketing, hurting consumer discretionary spending...)

 

[tidefan]

All about the long game, IMO, even if in the meantime it makes things awkward for selling 6 million Riv points...

I wonder about the long game. Something about the adage “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. I don’t think DVC was “broke”, but they are “fixing” it, with restrictions, etc, which is fundamentally changing the product.

Time will tell if it’s the right move.

 

[Mikey15]

I wonder about the long game. Something about the adage “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. I don’t think DVC was “broke”, but they are “fixing” it, with restrictions, etc, which is fundamentally changing the product.

Time will tell if it’s the right move.

I see it as a component of 2042 planning, now 18.5 years away. Napkin math looks like at least 10 million WDW points expiring, plus 3m VB/HHI, plus whatever portion of OKW reverts to DVD (millions?).

How does Disney best resell these original resorts? From their perspective I think the prospect that lapsing owners can't just continue booking at their lapsed resort by buying cheap resale points somewhere else has to be at least part of their thought process. At the same time, it means that there will always be a resale market (which is itself a selling point to direct buyers) for in-demand resorts, because you won't be able to SAP at (Riv or presumably FWC) without either buying direct, or buying resale at (Riv or FWC).

If they kept the pre-2019 model, where all resale points could even SAP at brand new resorts, it would have an impact on 2042 as they do whatever they plan to do to bring those resorts back online. I'm not here to defend restrictions, but I have a hunch that from their perspective they're fixing an anticipated problem. The system is going to be different and very siloed though once this spreads beyond the handful of resorts it affects now.

 

[Cybertruck]

I'm not eager for Poly sales.... we might get a small contract, but I'm more inclined to buy more VGF points, especially if they are part of the same association... Poly has the worst points chart out of all of them, and is not the closest to a park nor the flagship resort....

It is what makes DVC wonderful enough variety of resorts and themes. We consider the Poly the best of the DVCs and look forward to the completion of the tower. Our family needs more space than a studio.