Freedom to Marry Day Protest Planned

[iloveboardwalk]

Those who deceive others by condoning what God says is wrong are the ones who are harming the brethren.
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Again, which god?

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Wow.

Just wow.

Biblical scholars have been debating the myriad versions and translations of the Bible for centuries, but you automatically have all the answers in black and white. Just, wow.

Yes, amen, the answers are in black and white.

What myriad translations? Most Christian Bibles have an intro that states what great care has been taken into translating the Word of God. Please read it. Also, I've never seen a "version" that was different in meaning.

 

[BuckNaked]

Bless you for continuing to try with Joe, but I really fear that he has reached a point from which he will not be moved.

He won't be moved by arguments, but at some point in his life, something will severely test his faith. And when that happens, if he is truly a Christian, he will fight to save his faith, and in doing so, he will look deeper into the meaning of grace, and the acceptance of God's will. At that point, a new outlook will emerge, an outlook that even a loving God can and does allow things to happen that result in a greater good that we might never live to see or understand.

Or maybe he won't, but I was, and that's how I came to where I am now on this issue.

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

Again, which god?

There's only one God.

 

[BuckNaked]

Actually, to follow what you're saying, I really only get "God bless most of us".

Just an FYI, that was actually said here on the DIS once, but not with regards to this topic.


Carry on.

 

[RickinNYC]

Yes, amen, the answers are in black and white.

What myriad translations? Most Christian Bibles have an intro that states what great care has been taken into translating the Word of God. Please read it. Also, I've never seen a "version" that was different in meaning.

Well, the Bible was translated hundreds if not thousands of times since it's inception, then into hundreds of different languages, and on and on and on... there's no way that anything could be mistranslated ever in a million years EVER.

You've never seen a version that was different in meaning? You speak and read every language on the planet?

And by the way, nice use of the word "most". So clearly not all Christian Bibles have that intro. You might try reading those too.

Whatever the case... more of the same.

 

[salmoneous]

No, the govenment shouldn't recognize a relationship that is and of itself immoral, whether homosexual or polygamy.

You can skirt the issue as much as you want - but being Hindu is just as, if not more "immoral" in your view than being gay. As long as your religious believes allow you to support government marriage of Hindi, it allows you to support government marriage of gays.

You desire for discrimination isn't based on the Bible - just bigotry.

 

[Laura]

There's only one God.

That's what you think. But that's just it--it doesn't matter what you think. It only matters what the Constitution says.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Ah, the Fourteenth Amendment. Lovely, isn't it?

 

[fabshelly]

Yes, I think that's the only type of marriage God approves of.

Did God instruct David or Abraham to have more than one wife? In Abraham's case, he had sex with his wife's maidservant because he didn't trust God.

So, if I work Saturday, you're going to come over and kill me? Because the Bible clearly states that you must do that.

 

[Fitswimmer]

Actually, to follow what you're saying, I really only get "God bless most of us".

God bless all of us that do what Joe believes is right. Anyone else is "harming the brethren"

 

[RickinNYC]

Just an FYI, that was actually said here on the DIS once, but not with regards to this topic.


Carry on.

Get outta town!

 

[iloveboardwalk]

There's only one God.

I would like to meet him, personally, I have a ton of questions.

Unfortuneately, there are thousands of ideas about who he or she might be and I have yet to find one story that is more compelling than the others.

Not everyone recognizes your god or his story or your right to enforce that story's agenda on everyone else.

 

[fabshelly]

So if someone is an orphan, and doesn't have a mother and father to leave, God doesn't approve of their marriage???

God didn't tell them to do so, but he didn't say not to either. Here we have two of the biggest "heroes" of the Old Testament having marriage situations other than one-man/one-woman, and God doesn't ever step in and say, "hey - that's a bad idea."

And it's not like God is silent on the issues either. God comes out and tells David that one of his marriages is bad. But not because of the whole polygamy thing - but because he stole the wife from someone else.

Look, I don't think the Bible is promoting polygamy. But I don't see you can take a book where the main characters are involved in marriages that aren't one-man/one-woman and that the book makes crystal clear that God's idea of marriage is one-man/one-wife.

How many wives did Solomon have?

 

[JoeEpcotRocks]

I consider myself a Christian. But I can tell you right now, I must be worshiping a different God than Joe because as I sat here reading all of his very mean-spririted, condescending, hateful posts, I did not see God's message in ANY of them. The God I believe in would never condemn someone for having true love for another human being, whether they are male or female. Love is NOT a sin. I'm sorry there are so many misguided Christians out there who feel they can take it upon themselves to cast judgement on others for their lifestyle choices. The last time I checked, He is the only one who carries such a responsibility, and to take it upon yourself is not only wrong, but extrememly arrogant.

Love is not a sin, but God gave specific rules on sexual relations.

 

[PghLybrt]

How ignorant of you.

Ignorant maybe…… But how ignorant is it that I am denied basic civil liberties? How ignorant is it that people sit and debate how much value my life has as a lesbian?

Walk a mile…no how about a block in my shoes.

 

[RickinNYC]

Is it just me or are others truly disgusted at the concept that the Bible is being used as a weapon to judge others, to diminish others, to deny others equal rights?

Joe, you may as well use your Bible to physically hit sinners.

 

[RickinNYC]

How many wives did Solomon have?

A bazillion

 

[LuvDuke]

That's what you think. But that's just it--it doesn't matter what you think. It only matters what the Constitution says.

"No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Ah, the Fourteenth Amendment. Lovely, isn't it?

Bingo! When it comes to civil rights, what someone thinks is irrelevant to those civil rights. Civil rights are not subject to an up or down vote. You receive your constitutional rights by virtue of being here and NOT because someone deems you worthy.

This whole argument of "it's my religious belief" is irrelevant.

 

[BuckNaked]

A bazillion

That there's a lot of begettin'

 

[RickinNYC]

Love is not a sin, but God gave specific rules on sexual relations.

Methinks you doth protest too much dude, if you knownmsayin'.