Foods that you refuse to purchase for your family

[MAH4546]

A young child drinking a glass of wine for dinner is perfectly normal and acceptable in many cultures, such as France and Italy. Nothing wrong with it.

It's true that giving wine to children is done occasionally in european families, however, after living in Italy I observed that the culture over there is entirely different where alcohol is concerned. Here teenagers on up are encouraged by their peers to go out, party, get drunk, etc. Over there it is really frowned upon to become drunk. In fact, people look at you like you have a serious emotional problem if you do get drunk. It is highly discouraged among your peers.

That said, in this culture where teenage drinking is so prevalent, I will not be encouraging my daughters to drink alcohol at all. If they wish to at 21 that is their choice.

If more Americans would adapt to the European culture, then American children would change to. Americans should teach their children to drink alcohol in moderation.

In Wisconsin - likely a remnant of its historical ties to Germany - it is actually allowed for children to drink beer or wine in public, as long as they are with their guardian.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

There is nothing I refuse to buy. I'm on the "in moderation" bandwagon.

As far as giving wine to a 6 yo. My grandparents raised me. My grandfather was raised in Czech republic and was always given wine with his dinner even as a young child. Growing up ,it was the norm for him and I always was given a little glass of wine with dinner. Never thought too much about it. Its what we did.

No I don't do it with my kids but I do know people who do.

I'm not an alcoholic, and I don't have cirrhosis. Plus my grandfather was never arrested for child abuse.

 

[TheZue]

I'm not a prude about alcohol at all, but I just can't see how giving it to a developing brain on a regular basis is a good idea.

 

[LisaR]

A young child drinking a glass of wine for dinner is perfectly normal and acceptable in many cultures, such as France and Italy. Nothing wrong with it.

I have never met a single person from anywhere that gave their YOUNG child a glass of wine with dinner NIGHTLY. Occasionally? Sure. Nightly? Nope. Young teens? Yep. 6 year olds on a nightly basis? No again.

 

[Jacoby 46]

I'll buy whatever they want. I see nothing wrong with eating whatever you would like in moderation. A diet of straight junk food is not good but if they want junk food once in a while..no biggie. Processed, canned, organic, HFCS...it's all good with me.

Same here...there isn't anything restricted as long as it is in moderation...

I drank about an ounce of wine from a gold chalice every week starting at age 8

Same here!

 

[LisaR]

There is nothing I refuse to buy. I'm on the "in moderation" bandwagon.

As far as giving wine to a 6 yo. My grandparents raised me. My grandfather was raised in Czech republic and was always given wine with his dinner even as a young child. Growing up ,it was the norm for him and I always was given a little glass of wine with dinner. Never thought too much about it. Its what we did.

No I don't do it with my kids but I do know people who do.

I'm not an alcoholic, and I don't have cirrhosis. Plus my grandfather was never arrested for child abuse.

As a newborn baby, I road home on my mom's lap in the front seat of the car. She wasn't wearing a seat belt either. I have many relatives that smoked through their entire pregnancies 50 years ago. Things do change over time. We have learned a lot more about alcohol, seat belts and cigarettes. I have relatives in Europe and it does not appear to be a nightly occurrence with their kids.

DISCLAIMER: I do not have any problem giving a child a few sips of alcohol here or there or giving young teens a glass with dinner. Claiming to give a 6 year old wine every night for the health benefits is an oxymoron.

 

[DisnyMama]

"Vegall" When I was growing up my mom used to mix a can of this stuff into EVERYTHING! I think it was her way of trying to make sure we ate vegies. It would show up in meatloaf, mac n cheese , any soup...... It's a running joke with my son to this day whenever we see it in the store.

 

[testifyoncruises]

Sorry but parents do far more abusive things to their kids on a nightly basis than giving an ounce of red wine with dinner.

Serving them processed Chicken nuggets, processed mac and cheese with no protein and no veggies because their little snowflake will not eat anything else IS in fact nothing short of abuse. That is what is downright frightening. I am proud to say that my child has only set foot in a fast food restaurant or pizza place with a scary rat for a birthday party and we bring in our own food. She doesn't ask for it and doesn't miss anything. And yes from time to time she will eat junky empty calories, but not in my house.

There are so many adults I know who either drank wine with dinner or sipped the foam off of their dad's beer on a regular basis and they are neither alcoholics or suffering from liver disease.

 

[luvsJack]

Whole wheat pasta. Just totally gross. Maybe if that was the only kind of pasta I ever had I'd think it was good, but ... no.

Nonfat dairy products, such as nonfat sour cream and nonfat milk. I'll find other ways to cut fat from my diet, thank you.

Good! I thought it was just me! It doesn't taste anything like regular pasta. I like ww bread but ww pasta? UCK! (I do buy the white pasta with whole grains and calcium in it--can't think of the brand, way to early for that --smart-roni or some such)

I do use non-fat dairy, but if I am cooking something special and really want to go all out for that "great" taste, I buy regular sour cream or margarine. I have drank low-fat or no-fat milk for so long though that regular whole milk taste horrible to me!

 

[luvsJack]

Sorry but parents do far more abusive things to their kids on a nightly basis than giving an ounce of red wine with dinner.

Serving them processed Chicken nuggets, processed mac and cheese with no protein and no veggies because their little snowflake will not eat anything else IS in fact nothing short of abuse. That is what is downright frightening. I am proud to say that my child has only set foot in a fast food restaurant or pizza place with a scary rat for a birthday party and we bring in our own food. She doesn't ask for it and doesn't miss anything. And yes from time to time she will eat junky empty calories, but not in my house.

There are so many adults I know who either drank wine with dinner or sipped the foam off of their dad's beer on a regular basis and they are neither alcoholics or suffering from liver disease.

No one here is going to convince you not to give your child wine, but if you have any addictive personalities anywhere on either side of your families (no matter how far down the line); please, be careful. Alcoholism is a horrible disease that destroys lives.

 

[kydisneyfans]

I refuse to buy anything without the word "sale" attached.

Fruits this week will be strawberries($2/lb), cantalope($1.50), cherries (3.49/lb) and bananas.

Organic is overpriced and how can they prove it's organic? I saw a package of "organic" Driscoll's raspberries at Whole Foods for 6.99. that same exact container of "organic" raspberries was 2.50 at Kroger. What makes a banana organic, you still peel it? A chicken is a chicken regardless of where it came from or what it was fed.

We don't buy seafood, since we don't eat it. No lamb or liver either. Cottage cheese is gross, the same with Spam. Bottled water is stupid too unless you are on the road alot. We don't like sardines, so they are on the no buy list too-I don't like opening cans and having something dead staring at me. No bagged ice, I can make my own, or Sonic makes a nice bag for .89 for road trips. Little Debbie cakes are questionable, the shelf life of baked goods should not be forever. No premade deli sandwiches for 3.99, I can get a nice sub at Subway next door for less than that.

I think that's it.

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

Sorry but parents do far more abusive things to their kids on a nightly basis than giving an ounce of red wine with dinner.

There are so many adults I know who either drank wine with dinner or sipped the foam off of their dad's beer on a regular basis and they are neither alcoholics or suffering from liver disease.

Well finally your seeing the light that it is in fact abusive.

We have learned many things over the years regarding alcohol.
Tasting wine at a celebration is a far cry from wine every night for health.

Bottom line is if the authorities were informed about wine being given to a 6 year old this would just not be a debate it would be illegal & Mom would be charged.

 

[Jennasis]

Well finally your seeing the light that it is in fact abusive.

We have learned many things over the years regarding alcohol.
Tasting wine at a celebration is a far cry from wine every night for health.

Bottom line is if the authorities were informed about wine being given to a 6 year old this would just not be a debate it would be illegal & Mom would be charged.

I thought the OP explained the legality of her action already. Something to the effect of in her state, it is legal if the minor has parental consent and is in the presence of said parent?

Not saying I agree with what she's doing.

 

[LisaR]

Sorry but parents do far more abusive things to their kids on a nightly basis than giving an ounce of red wine with dinner.

Serving them processed Chicken nuggets, processed mac and cheese with no protein and no veggies because their little snowflake will not eat anything else IS in fact nothing short of abuse. That is what is downright frightening. I am proud to say that my child has only set foot in a fast food restaurant or pizza place with a scary rat for a birthday party and we bring in our own food. She doesn't ask for it and doesn't miss anything. And yes from time to time she will eat junky empty calories, but not in my house.

There are so many adults I know who either drank wine with dinner or sipped the foam off of their dad's beer on a regular basis and they are neither alcoholics or suffering from liver disease.

You're going to do what you're going to do but you really should take a moment to analyze your decision making process. You give your six year old wine every night for two reasons:
1. Because of the health benefits (when you know that it is the grapes that are beneficial not the alcohol)
2. Because parents abuse their children in worse ways so that makes it okay.

If backwards reasoning helps you to justify your decision, so be it, but don't try to pass it off as logical.

 

[testifyoncruises]

Well finally your seeing the light that it is in fact abusive.

We have learned many things over the years regarding alcohol.
Tasting wine at a celebration is a far cry from wine every night for health.

Bottom line is if the authorities were informed about wine being given to a 6 year old this would just not be a debate it would be illegal & Mom would be charged.

Nope I never said it was abusive. I said if you want to talk abuse you can look at the garbage that well meaning parents put into their kids.

There have been studies after studies touting the benefits of a nightly glass of red wine.

And go on and alert the authorities, in my state what I am doing is perfectly legal. There is no restriction on the age of the minor, a parent may provide alcohol to their minor child in their presence.

My DD is not being forced to drink wine, she enjoys it as part of our culture.

 

[testifyoncruises]

You're going to do what you're going to do but you really should take a moment to analyze your decision making process. You give your six year old wine every night for two reasons:

Nope, I give my daughter wine for far more than just two reasons, but you just keep on thinking that. Must bother you that there is not a thing you can do about it.

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

Nope I never said it was abusive. I said if you want to talk abuse you can look at the garbage that well meaning parents put into their kids.

There have been studies after studies touting the benefits of a nightly glass of red wine.

And go on and alert the authorities, in my state what I am doing is perfectly legal. There is no restriction on the age of the minor, a parent may provide alcohol to their minor child in their presence.

My DD is not being forced to drink wine, she enjoys it as part of our culture.

The studies apply to adults. If you think this practice is so wonderful why haven't you let your pediatrician know about it. Is it because you are afraid of the reaction or negative feedback you will receive?

 

[Jenvenza]

Wrong, in my state it is not illegal for a parent to provide alcohol to their own minor children in their presence.

I know parents who give their kids an ounce of Nyquil. Did you know there is less alcohol in an ounce of wine?

It is extremely good for her as the health benefits are well known. We drink it with dinner every night and she has her own small glass.

By the way the rules say you should not name call and you have just been reported.[/QUOTE]

I am quite aware of the rules of the Dis - but thank you for letting me know. Report away, because I did not call you a name. Thanks for the laugh though!!

And you do realize it is the GRAPES that have all the health benefits, right? Grape juice has the same affect on the heart and all the health benefits, without the alcohol. I am sure your pediatrician would tell you that if you let them know what you were doing.

Child abuse?? Oh, please...it's not like she's holding her child down and forcing several glasses of wine on her. I haven't heard anything about this child or any other, who is walking around in a drunken stupor. It's tiny bit of wine in a little glass. Let's save the "child abuse" threat for some real child abuse. Just go to any ER and ask them what THEY call child abuse. You will be horrified.

ETA: Here in Atlanta, we have two parents in jail because they tattooed each of their (4, I think) children, one or two which were under 14. Now THAT is some child abuse!

There are many forms of child abuse - some are worse than others, obviously. But what she is doing IS child abuse and I can guarantee you, if she let her daughter's pediatrician know what she was doing - they would alert the authorities. And mom would be heading to jail.

I am glad to see I am not the only one who thinks this though. For a while there, I was beginning to think everyone on here thought this was okay!

 

[Jennasis]

The studies apply to adults. If you think this practice is so wonderful why haven't you let your pediatrician know about it. Is it because you are afraid of the reaction or negative feedback you will receive?

You really should just let it go. You're just making yourself upset and you are in no way going to have any influence over the poster. Best to just shake your head and move along.

 

[Enchanted_Mama]

lunchables, gogurts, boxed mac and cheese, prepackaged chicken nuggets or fish sticks, fruit snacks...

basically all of that crappy, unhealthy (or, at best, less healthy than a homemade version), expensive food that is marketed to kids

oh, and no soda.