First time going since DVC, bought resale- Q

They only do virtual cards now. You can go to the disneyvacationclub site, and on the navigation menu click on “My DVC”, then click on “View My Membership Card”.

For a brief period (when the cards were introduced) it was just the blue card. Now there’s an “ND” added if you aren’t a “qualified” member, and some other designation if you are.

Glad I saved my card to my wallet before they added the designation.

I looked on the site and it just has a "temporary card." Then I saw this...which makes it sound like I don't even get a card? Hmm.


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LOL. Our dues are not charity. Our dear management is making plenty of money.

Not to mention all the money we spent in the parks that maybe would have been spent elsewhere if we didn't have DVC.
 
We are resale "grandfathered " since 2006 and would always ask the servers etc. if they take DVC .If the answer was yes they would automatically give us whatever discount was applied. Honestly I can't remember the last time someone actually asked to see our member card.
 
I looked on the site and it just has a "temporary card." Then I saw this...which makes it sound like I don't even get a card? Hmm.


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Not to mention all the money we spent in the parks that maybe would have been spent elsewhere if we didn't have DVC.
You need to set up the Disney MagicMobile pass in your smartphone wallet. In the MDE app, click the 3 lines lower right, click Disney MagicMobile, then click the + sign upper right and follow the prompts. You can choose any pass design you wish - you don’t have to choose the DVC design but are welcome to! Then tap and add it to your wallet. In your wallet there’s a way to look at the “back” side of the pass (varies by iPhone vs. Android), which is where you’ll see the DVC-ND and the QR code mentioned above.
 
LOL. Our dues are not charity. Our dear management is making plenty of money.
Disney does not profit off of dues. However, the ability to sell contracts at a meaningful value sets DVC apart from most other timeshare products. Disney benefits from that because it makes direct buyers both more willing to buy and willing to pay more than they/we otherwise would. Disney can create a significant space between the membership value of direct and resale, but if they go too far and tank resale value too much they will have traded a short term gain for long term headaches.
 

Frankly, most CM's don't care whether you're DVC-Y, or DVC-ND. They'll give you any discount they can, especially CMs at restaurants, to make you happy. The only times where I've seen DVC-Y or DVC-ND strictly enforced was at the Epcot lounge and Moonlight Magic.
 
We are in the same position and I am utterly confused on the Magic Pass interface. When I open the pass in the MDE app, the face of the card does not reference an id number and there's no way to see the "back" of the card. The only way I can do that is if I open it in the Wallet app on iPhone, and even then it's somewhat buried in the content on the screen - hard to imagine cast members would even be able to read the screen from behind a kiosk. Is this the way we're supposed to be showing our DVC pass in the parks? Using Apple wallet? Or am I doing something wrong?

Sorry - I should probably just wait until my wife gets home and let her teach me.
 
We are in the same position and I am utterly confused on the Magic Pass interface. When I open the pass in the MDE app, the face of the card does not reference an id number and there's no way to see the "back" of the card. The only way I can do that is if I open it in the Wallet app on iPhone, and even then it's somewhat buried in the content on the screen - hard to imagine cast members would even be able to read the screen from behind a kiosk. Is this the way we're supposed to be showing our DVC pass in the parks? Using Apple wallet? Or am I doing something wrong?

Sorry - I should probably just wait until my wife gets home and let her teach me.
Unfortunately, yes, you have to use Apple Wallet and touch the little i in the upper right corner to display the DVC- and the QR code (used at Disneyland). Members without smartphones can bring a printout of their membership card from the website, but some CMs won’t accept it, which is a sore spot with me (even though I have and use my Apple Wallet for many things, not just MM).
 
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Unfortunately, yes, you have to use Apple Wallet and touch the little i in the upper right corner to display the DVC- and the QR code (used at Disneyland). Members without smartphones can bring a printout of their membership card from the website, but some CMs won’t accept it, which is a sore spot with me (even though I have and use my Apple Wallet for many things, not just MM).
Thank you for confirming this. The good news is that I'm not as technologically challenged as I thought. The bad news is that this seems like a ridiculous amount of effort. I'd be even more annoyed if I bought direct!
 
Never asked to see the wallet card that shows nd so far. If they deny me I say ok and move on.
We’ve been asked every time, since it’s been implemented, to produce the card in our Apple wallet

Same @ member lounge

Frankly, most CM's don't care whether you're DVC-Y, or DVC-ND. They'll give you any discount they can, especially CMs at restaurants, to make you happy. The only times where I've seen DVC-Y or DVC-ND strictly enforced was at the Epcot lounge and Moonlight Magic.
See above.

We’ve been stuck in line behind DVC-ND card holders @ both member lounge & last EP moonlight magic who were berating the CMs that they “always get” X, Y & Z

This is not to be confused with those who honestly aren’t aware of the stated protocols.

Pixie dust when granted is lovely, enjoy it!

We didn’t buy direct for perks, they’ve been a nice bonus over the years. Was also happy to have our subsequent resale accounts grand fathered

However, it wound be appreciated if those ruled non eligible to participate in discounts etc , would be courteous. please move along vs arguing the point while others are waiting in the queue behind you.

More importantly, don’t take your frustration out on the CMs who are following their training in performing their jobs.
 
LOL. Our dues are not charity. Our dear management is making plenty of money.
I would have thought you know enough about DVC to know what dues cover and sales has absolutely nothing to do with dues. Dues cover resort administration and front desk, insurance, annual audit, management fee reservation system, maintenance, housekeeping, security, taxes, transportation, electricity, gas, water, sewer, cable and telephones.
If DVD can't sell new contracts the entire system fails. Not sure why that's so hard to understand.
Sometimes I wonder why you keep yours, you never seem pleased with any aspect of it. LOL
 
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Not to mention all the money we spent in the parks that maybe would have been spent elsewhere if we didn't have DVC.
DVC/DVD doesn't benefit from any money spent in the parks. Everyone should understand what they actually purchased. The only money source for DVD is direct sales only.
 
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I would have thought you know enough about DVC to know what dues cover and sales has absolutely nothing to do with dues. Dues cover resort administration and front desk, insurance, annual audit, reservation system, maintenance, housekeeping, security, taxes, transportation, electricity, gas, water, sewer, cable and telephones.
If DVD can't sell new contracts the entire system fails. Not sure why that's so hard to understand.
Sometimes I wonder why you keep yours, you never seem pleased with any aspect of it. LOL
Not the poster this was directed at, but I understand that DVC gets a management fee from dues... presumably this is profitable for DVC given that dues do in fact go to all of those other things you mentioned too. Not suggesting it's pure profit. I do recognize that sales don't have anything to do with dues.
 
Not the poster this was directed at, but I understand that DVC gets a management fee from dues... presumably this is profitable for DVC given that dues do in fact go to all of those other things you mentioned too. Not suggesting it's pure profit. I do recognize that sales don't have anything to do with dues.
I do not think they are allowed by law to profit from management fees. It is a fee to pay for their management services which is why it is aduited every year.
 
Not the poster this was directed at, but I understand that DVC gets a management fee from dues... presumably this is profitable for DVC given that dues do in fact go to all of those other things you mentioned too. Not suggesting it's pure profit. I do recognize that sales don't have anything to do with dues.

DVCMC do get a straight 12% fee to manage the system and certainly can make additional money on top of expenses via breakage etc.

But, DVD is the entity that deals with sales and who offers the extras to owners. Not DVCMC.

So, our dues do not help to pay or offset any additional costs except what it costs to run the resorts.
 
The only way I can do that is if I open it in the Wallet app on iPhone, and even then it's somewhat buried in the content on the screen - hard to imagine cast members would even be able to read the screen from behind a kiosk. Is this the way we're supposed to be showing our DVC pass in the parks? Using Apple wallet? Or am I doing something wrong?
Literally done it dozens of times now on both coasts. Never been denied, and a CM has never been unable to see the DVC-Y. They know what to ask for, and what to look for.
 
Thank you for confirming this. The good news is that I'm not as technologically challenged as I thought. The bad news is that this seems like a ridiculous amount of effort. I'd be even more annoyed if I bought direct!
No harder than digging into my pocket, grabbing my wallet, and fishing out the old plastic card (which still lives in there), then reversing the process. I prefer not repeatedly pulling my wallet out, then pulling cards out of it. Way too easy to lose something I'd rather not lose. Much less likely to inadvertently "lose" my phone, and even if I did, it's a useless brick to anyone else.
 
DVC/DVD doesn't benefit from any money spent in the parks. Everyone should understand what they actually purchased. The only money source for DVD is direct sales only.

Ah, yeah...sorry. I was just referring to Disney, in general. I'm new to all of this and still learning. Haven't even used any DVC points yet.
 
Ah, yeah...sorry. I was just referring to Disney, in general. I'm new to all of this and still learning. Haven't even used any DVC points yet.
Disney is like a lot of small companies under the same big umbrella. It will make it easier to understand why DVD does what they do if you think of them as their own private business. For example the Moonlight Magic events DVD has to buy those. Ticket deals have to be negotiated etc.
 
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Disney is like a lot of small companies under the same big umbrella. It will make it easier to understand why DVC does what they do if you think of them as their own private business. For example the Moonlight Magic events DVC has to buy those. Ticket deals have to be negotiated.

And to be clear, it’s DVD that does, not DVCMC.
 
DVCMC do get a straight 12% fee to manage the system and certainly can make additional money on top of expenses via breakage etc.

But, DVD is the entity that deals with sales and who offers the extras to owners. Not DVCMC.

So, our dues do not help to pay or offset any additional costs except what it costs to run the resorts.
Actually 12.5
"The management fee is paid to Disney, and is a flat 12.5% based on the budget of the resort. This can rise or fall each year, based on the total projected budget for the year.".
Isn't that similar to any fee paid for service rendered? Just like front desk, housekeeping, security etc.?
 



















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