First time flying with kids. Help!

1. Kids 2 and older must have their own seat; no car seat is required. The child must sit in his own seat for landing, take-off, and when the seat belt light is on. OP's child will be 2, being a lap child is not an issue here.

2. Planes can have all different types of seating configurations, not necessarily 3-3, although this is how all Southwest planes are configured.

3. If you are traveling next May, fares on legacy airlines should have been released, at least for early May. There is no way I'd wait until March 2014 to buy tickets for May. I have not found that buying tickets 6-8 weeks out gets you a better deal; usually the opposite.
 
Ok, I'm going to break a rule and post before reading too far in. I read the initial post and a couple down, noticing Debbie and Sam are in the mix, which is good. So here are my thoughts.

1) Don't stress. It is going to be alright, and flying is a fun and amazing thing. there are lots of details, but even the most inexperienced traveler who doesn't come to a board like this to get info does just fine.

2) In general, the best time to buy tickets is from six to four months out, in general. The 4-6 week thing was last millennium :). The legacy airlines begin releasing their super economy around the six-month window and the "low-cost" airlines (Southwest, JetBlue, etc) release their schedules about the same time.

3) To search for airline prices, use a tool like Hipmunk.com. Since you are fairly new, you'll like Hipmunk. It uses the same tools as the more advanced ITAMatrix, but in a more easy to understand format. It is not an online travel agency (like Travelocity, Priceline, or Expedia), so you won't get hurt using it. Instead, the "Book It" button takes you straight to the airline's website to get the tickets. This is important, as you'll then be a customer of the airline versus a customer of a travel agent that has a virtual presence, in other words the airline will talk to you instead of forcing you to talk to your broker.

4) 747s are still around, but are rarely (if ever) used in the continental US. Instead, airlines use narrow body aircraft like 737, 757, and Airbus, which generally have a 3 on 3 configuration.

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As such, you'll likely have a good setup with one parent and two kids per section, with grandpa living it up in first class...or somewhere else on the plane ;). The decision is whether you'd prefer to sit one group in front of another or just take a whole row. This brings me to...

5) Reserved seating is available on the legacy airlines (Delta, United, US Airways, American) as well as some low-cost airlines (JetBlue, Frontier). Airlines decide how this is done and whether to charge. For instance, American charges for some aisle and window seats, as well as seats closer to the front of the aircraft. Delta does not charge for reserving your seats, neither does United. Just look at the various airline websites to see who charges what. You can even make a mock reservation (up to clicking on the pay button) to see what the fees will be. Southwest boards by group, and there are lots of threads on this on the DISBoards :rolleyes:.

6) Value is a personal thing and what you are really looking for versus price. If a ticket is cheap but at a bad time or requires a lot of fees, then it isn't as good a value as a higher priced ticket with extras added in. For instance on Frontier, the economy ticket has the lowest cost, but you pay for bags and in-flight entertainment. However I usually found the Classic ticket to be a better value, since it included bag fees and in-flight TV during football season (which is important!! :lmao:). Set a reasonable price threshold and the expected service you want for it, then when you find a ticket that meets the criteria, book it and don't look back.

7) There are several ways to save some money, since you are looking at travel a year out. The biggest way to save cash for your clan is via co-branded airline credit cards. Most airlines have them, and many cards offer amenities for the annual fee, such as one free bag up to a certain number of people (Delta allows 9 while United allows 2) and priority boarding (board the aircraft before general boarding, which ensures time to get settled and overhead bin space for your carry-on bags). There are other benefits that vary by airline, as well, such as US Airways companion fares that allow two companions to fly for $99 each plus tax & fees (with a regular ticket of at least $250).

In addition, these cards generally have a sign-up bonus of a number of miles if you spend a certain amount within a specified period. For instance, United's card has a 30,000 mile bonus for spending $1,000 on the card within three months. Most families can spend $340 per month on groceries, gas, telephone, etc to meet the minimum threshold. These 30k points can easily get a free flight on United (best award availability), which may save on costs for dear old dad tagging along. Usually, the annual fee is waived for the first year, too, so it is no cost out of pocket for the first year and you can cancel
when the annual fee comes due.

8) There seems to be quite a discussion regarding car seats and lap babies. I do not think a two year old will qualify under the airline's rules, but you can Google the airline's Contract of Carriage and it is spelled out. In addition, I highly recommend each kid have their own seat, so they have space to themselves. Check to see if your current car seat is FAA rated. If so, bring it along. Little kids enjoy the comfort of their own space that they know well. We can discuss this in depth closer to travel date, and I suggest not getting bogged down in this discussion at this time.

9) From what it sounds like, the TSA wasn't even around last time you flew. Thus, the rules have changed a lot, but that is ok, since you likely don't remember them anyway ;). There are threads on this, as well, but we can also discuss the security checkpoint tips closer to flight time.

In summary (you still with me? :lmao:), take a look at Hipmunk to get an idea of prices and availability. This is a great site to buy through, as well, since you are dealing directly with the airline versus an online travel agency. Plan on getting each person (young and old) their own seat; you'll be happier for it. Buy your tickets from six to four months out, and investigate possibly using a co-branded airline credit card to offset some ancillary and ticket costs. Remember, most legacy airlines allow you to pick your seat at booking for free.

In the end, have fun with it, don't stress, and Good Luck! :thumbsup2
 
Wow, Chris, thank you for all that info!

I think it's been determined that:

A.) We will be paying for our 2 year old and bringing his car seat along.

B.) We will be booking our flight MUCH sooner than originally thought.

C.) We will see about our chosen airline's procedures regarding assigned seats or early boarding so we can ensure we're all seated together.

Don't think we'll qualify for an airline credit card as our credit is pretty horrible. If any of our ADRs require a credit card (not our debit card) then we'll be using my dad's. It's our money but if we need to book everything through my dad, we will. It's not like our entire trip minus souvenirs and impulse buys won't be paid for in advance so it won't cost my dad a penny!

Thank you all so much for all your help! I truly appreciate it!
 
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7) There are several ways to save some money, since you are looking at travel a year out. The biggest way to save cash for your clan is via co-branded airline credit cards. Most airlines have them, and many cards offer amenities for the annual fee, such as one free bag up to a certain number of people (Delta allows 9 while United allows 2) and priority boarding (board the aircraft before general boarding, which ensures time to get settled and overhead bin space for your carry-on bags). T
8) There seems to be quite a discussion regarding car seats and lap babies. I do not think a two year old will qualify under the airline's rules, but you can Google the airline's Contract of Carriage and it is spelled out. In addition, I highly recommend each kid have their own seat, so they have space to themselves. Check to see if your current car seat is FAA rated. If so, bring it along. Little kids enjoy the comfort of their own space that they know well. .........

Actually, if you have a Chase branded United Airlines card and use the card to book your UA ticket, you and up to eight passengers traveling with you get one free checked bag, if booked on the same reservation (domestic flights).

No need to read your airline's COC for lap baby information; the rules for lap babies are governed by the FAA, not the airlines, and the rule is a 2 year old and above must have their own seat.
 

We have looked at non stop flights but they are WAY more expensive than the ones with layovers and we're not open to sacrificing anything on our vacation just to get there a couple hours sooner. Spending as much as we will be on the flight is bad enough. DH is already looking for job opportunities in Orlando! LOL! We sooo wish we lived closer!

Looks like Airtran will be the way to go. It's early yet, adn I dont think ther schedule for those dates have been released, but they offer nonstops from Indianapolis to Orlando for resonable prices.

And layovers and change of planes stink with kids.
 
Now that I've caught up, I have a couple comments on what was said (not to the person that stated it, per se, rather in general to all reading the thread.

I think after doing a bit more research, we're going to need car seats for both my toddler and my youngest DD. She will not be anywhere close to 40 lbs by then and the FAA brochure says she should be in one too.
FAA brochure!?!?! party: You are the only non-frequent flier I've seen post about this on the DIS! :worship: You are waaayyyy ahead of the game if you have this little nugget of info in your pocket. Bring a copy to the airport with you, as the agents sometimes don't know the FAA rules, yet they are required by FAA ordinance to allow you to use the FAA rated seats, and if it doesn't fit in the airline seat assigned, they must move you vice force you to gate check the seat! :cheer2: Great job! :thumbsup2

2K for all 7 of you actually doesn't sound too bad... SW is the cheapest around.
I agree with first sentence but not the second. This is a good price to fly; however, WN (Southwest) is not the cheapest from Portland, OR. In fact, it is very high in comparison to some legacies (likely due to the required connections). The second sentence needs to be qualified as being the cheapest around Maine? :)

Might be semantics, but generalities are too broad for a forum like this.
 
C.) We will see about our chosen airline's procedures regarding assigned seats or early boarding so we can ensure we're all seated together.
Chris gave you a lot of information, and I'm going to throw something else at you. It won't be what you want to hear though. There is no way to ENSURE your group is sitting together until you are on the plane and it's in the air. This is on ANY airline.

Even an airline with assigned seating may have a last minute plane change and the seating be different enough to cause problems. If you have a connection and you miss the connection, the next plane may not have seating exactly how you need.

The odds are good you will sit together, but there are things you can do to help your cause...

1) If you are on an airline with assigned seats, keep checking your reservation. The equipment might change and the seats get changed. You may or may not be notified of this change, so every week or so log in and check. It should just take a couple minutes.
2) If you are on an airline with no assigned seats, check in as early as you can. If you're flying SW, pay for EBCI.
3) Prepare your oldest that s(he) may need to sit by him(her?)self. There is no reason to freak out. Presumably s(he) rides a bus to or from school. Just make sure s(he) has some activities to keep busy.
4) If you do get separated, don't demand other passengers move to accommodate you. Feel free to ask if someone will move, but be understanding what you're asking for. Don't ask someone who has an aisle seat toward the front of the plane to switch for your middle seat in the back.
 
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I second the recommendation of paying the extra for direct flights.

Connections are a double edged sword: small connection time increases chance you will miss it or get a boot camp type workout sprinting to a gate and the long connection time can be very hard on kids waiting to see Mickey.

I travelled every summer with my 3 kids by myself and connections were very hard.
 
I second the recommendation of paying the extra for direct flights.

Connections are a double edged sword: small connection time increases chance you will miss it or get a boot camp type workout sprinting to a gate and the long connection time can be very hard on kids waiting to see Mickey.

I travelled every summer with my 3 kids by myself and connections were very hard.

Personally I would pay a lot extra for non-stop flights, and a bit extra for direct flightss.
 
I second the recommendation of paying the extra for direct flights.

Connections are a double edged sword: small connection time increases chance you will miss it or get a boot camp type workout sprinting to a gate and the long connection time can be very hard on kids waiting to see Mickey.

I travelled every summer with my 3 kids by myself and connections were very hard.

I think you are confusing direct flights, which do make stops and even sometimes plane changes, with non-stop flights.
 
The use of the the term "direct flight" when someone actually means "non-stop flight" occurs often enough on these boards (and elsewhere) that it makes me wonder what causes people to be confused about the meanings of the terms.
 
Nonstop flights make no stops.
Direct flights stop but you do not get off the plane.
 
Direct flights stop but do not change flight numbers. There are some flights that keep the same flight number even though there is a plane change.
 
I think you are confusing direct flights, which do make stops and even sometimes plane changes, with non-stop flights.

No, I am not. I meant direct, so she wouldn't have to get off the plane with the kids and haul all her stuff to another gate.

In a previous post she said non-stop flight were way to expensive for her.

I have never experienced a direct flight that makes you change plans, unless there is a mechanical problem.

But, all this is off topic.

I was just offering my 2cents to the original question. In the future if you think maybe someone made an error in what they meant to say, why not PM them and ask.
 
A direct flight can indeed mean a change of planes or even occasionally airlines. It simply means a flight with a single flight number. When the flight number changes, it becomes a connecting flight. A non-stop flight has no intermediate stops.

Surprisingly, non-stop flights are often cheaper than direct flights, at least on airlines other than WN.
 
Not true, see post above.
True. See my post again.

"IMO (In my OPINION)".

I think the definition of "direct flight" should be changed. In my OPINION, flight numbers shouldn't be the deciding factor. It should come down to whether you need to get off the plane.
 














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