Finger Reader Ticket Rant

[fsufandis]

This has probably been covered, but it irks me to no end to wait in line at the entrance to get in because the dad-gum finger scan reader does not woork right....(I know that the MK has the new finger print scan)

Here is the standard scenario.

-Person walks up, puts in ticket, sticks finger in reader.
-Ticket spits out the other side and person is given a swift shot in the groin from entrance bar.
-CM takes the ticket and sends it thru again....still no luck
-CM asks person to push fingers in tight.
-CM takes ticket and turns it over and tries again.
-Maybe now it works, but it is a 50/50 chance at best.

Multiply the above scenario for nearly every guest that tries to enter the park.

Drive me nuts.

Does anyone know what the finger reader (not the new finger print system) is trying to read?

 

[CleveRocks]

Finger PRINT system? Since when is there a finger print system? I'm familiar with the finger scan system, which measures bone length in either one or two fingers, depending on whether it's the old model or new model. The finger scanner uses an algorithm to "compare" the various bone lengths and comes up with a fairly uniquely identifying number, about one in 1000. Not exactly enough to convict O.J., but close enough to prevent people from buying/using someone else's multi-day pass.

How certain are you that there's a new system that actually takes finger prints??? I'd hate to have a false rumor started. It's against Florida law to sell part of an already-used multi-day theme park pass. Doesn't do much for Disney's bottom line, either!

 

[FlyingBelle]

OK - so can someone explain this to me?

We've been buying multi-day passes for years (knowing we'll have extras for the next trip). I've got a couple old ones that I got to keep in the divorce. It was before the finger-scan-print-heat sensor-whatever things, and they have no names on them. I don't know which were mine, which were his, etc. Am I going to have a problem using them?

 

[Lewisc]

The next time you use an old pass you're fingers will be scanned and the ticket will be identified with that person.

CleveRocks--Disney is in the process of replacing the two finger biometric scanners with units that scan your finger. Disney says it's still a biometric scanner, there is no way to use the data they store to reconstruct an actual finger print but some people don't believe Disney.

OK - so can someone explain this to me?

We've been buying multi-day passes for years (knowing we'll have extras for the next trip). I've got a couple old ones that I got to keep in the divorce. It was before the finger-scan-print-heat sensor-whatever things, and they have no names on them. I don't know which were mine, which were his, etc. Am I going to have a problem using them?

 

[helenm29]

I've also been told that you do NOT have to scan your finger if you are not comfortable doing so! you can use your I.D. card with your picture on it. JEEZ...sooner or later they are going to ask for our blood! I really don't feal comfortable with them having my finger print on file! things like that get screwed up all the time and hackers can get into pretty much any system! So, NOT GOING TO DO IT! am I being silly? Yo Ho Helen

 

[aka-mad4themouse]

Unless you are using an annual pass, your ticket is not tied to your name. All Disney has a record of is the ticket's serial number, a few readings from your finger (not an entire fingerprint) and the history of the ticket's use. Even if someone were to hack into their system, they would not be able to connect you with your data. They can only connect your ticket and your data.

 

[Feralpeg]

I've had no problems with the one finger scanner. I used it recently and it worked great. I thought it was much easier than the two finger method. With the two finger method, people tend to not put their fingers in far enough. I saw no problems with the one finger method.

 

[safetymom]

I have seen people still have problems with the one finger but it was faster than the 2 finger scanners.

 

[Syrreal]

And this surprises anyone, why?
Personally, I think they should go back to just putting the ticket through and then you go through the turnstile. They had that at AK in May and it really was WAY faster than any other way.

 

[safetymom]

I don't. Disney put this in place because so many people where getting ripped off by offsite vendors. The ticket is non transferable and people weren't following the rules.

 

[CleveRocks]

I really don't feal comfortable with them having my finger print on file! things like that get screwed up all the time and hackers can get into pretty much any system! So, NOT GOING TO DO IT! am I being silly? Yo Ho Helen

Silly? I won't touch that one. I'll politely call it uninformed.

THEY ARE NOT TAKING YOUR FINGERPRINTS!!!

The scanner measures the lengths of bones and compares them to each other using an algorithm, producing a kind-of unique number. Fingerprints are TOTALLY unique, no two people's are alike. The number produced by the finger scan algorithm are about 1 in 1,000. Hardly "personal" data that Disney or a hacker could somehow exploit.

 

[Lewisc]

You're talking about the old two finger biometric readers.

The new finger scaners actually scans your finger. Disney claims they are converting the fingerprint to biometric data and that it's not possible to use the stored biometric data to convert it to a guests actual finger print but some people don't believe Disney.

There isn't any way the old system could take your actual fingerprint but people aren't as sure about the new scanners.

Silly? I won't touch that one. I'll politely call it uninformed.

THEY ARE NOT TAKING YOUR FINGERPRINTS!!!

The scanner measures the lengths of bones and compares them to each other using an algorithm, producing a kind-of unique number. Fingerprints are TOTALLY unique, no two people's are alike. The number produced by the finger scan algorithm are about 1 in 1,000. Hardly "personal" data that Disney or a hacker could somehow exploit.

 

[safetymom]

BTW, the new scanners are also at Typhoon Lagoon.

 

[FlyingBelle]

It just freaks me out a bit... Disney is the first place I've seen use your fingers (however they are measuring them), my grocery store now allows you to pay by finger - it senses the heat in your finger and identifies you.

Just reminds me too much of "end times" stuff...