Fifth Park Theme?

[fannatic]

Has anyone heard any recent rumors about what the theme of WDW's fifth park will be? I know it won't be Night Kingdom (the pricey adult park). I've read where that idea is dead. The Orlando Sentinel had an article last year about Reedy Creek District's projections for the next 10 years. They said that a major 5th park would not open before 2013, but would probably open by 2018. I don't want to start any arguments over why we don't need a 5th park or why we do, I just need to know what rumors or info. anyone has heard concerning a theme.

 

[ChrisFL]

It's way too early for me to venture a guess myself but others will probably say, night kingdom again, some kind of marvel theme park, or a Villains park because people ALWAYS bring that one up from the dead....

 

[skiingfast]

Hard to say, I think they are probably happy with four right now, because it fits in to a week long trip pretty easy. Also they are spending I think just over 1B in California Adventure, and building the cruise ships for 1.5B that a lot of expense for the parks division.
Also I think because of the disparity in visitation to each park they would want to see DHS and AK get maxed out before adding a gate.

 

[fannatic]

I wouldn't count out the villains (Shadowlands) concept, popular ideas never die at Disney. I've read on other sites where they have 3 to several different theme park concepts. Anyone know more? As for Night Kingdom, the story goes that guests were given a poll about it and reportedly only 1 in 8 people liked the idea. It's suppose to be very dead. Now doesn't seem the time for a pricey exclusive park.

 

[DanG07]

What they should do for a 5th theme park is desgin one catering to teen and pre-teen boys. I believe with the Marvel acquisition mixed in with Star Wars, and maybe Indiana Jones and Prince of Persia (and maybe any new Disney action movies in the pipeline that cater to teen and pre-teen boys) Disney's imagineers could create enough rides/attractions to rival Universal's Island of Adventures. I believe that WDW in general, other than a limited amount of major roller-coasters, would benefit immensely from having a thrill-ride-centric theme park. Mix in some younger fare Pixar-theme attactions such as the Incredibles and some classic-Disney villain attractions, and the 5th theme park would be a hit with boys. Of course, Disney would have to overhaul DHS as well by maybe making it more about Pixar and the newer features that Disney has released. (They should also bring back Hunchback of Notre Dame - that is quietly one of my favorite, vastly under-rated Disney movies of all time). Just my two cents.

 

[skiingfast]

I think if WDW gets a 5th gate the Disney Seas design from Tokyo should be brought in. There is some redudancy in attractions. But the reason I think so is because I've read a few people's reports who have been to all the world's disney parks and it commonly is number one.

 

[ConcKahuna]

Last time I spoke to an Imagineer, they insisted that all plans for a 5th theme park had been scrapped in favor of supplementing the existing theme parks with new attractions.

 

[ChrisFL]

I think if WDW gets a 5th gate the Disney Seas design from Tokyo should be brought in. There is some redudancy in attractions. But the reason I think so is because I've read a few people's reports who have been to all the world's disney parks and it commonly is number one.

The problem is that Disney would never put the 4+ Billion investement into the park to make it as good as its Japanese counterpart

 

[skiingfast]

The problem is that Disney would never put the 4+ Billion investement into the park to make it as good as its Japanese counterpart

I don't think it would cost 4B to build a duplicate in WDW. Disney can build the rides now without the development costs that OLC had to pay. A lot of the ideas at TDS are from original plans to build what was called Westcot in DLR or other disney attractions. OLC ate up the design costs while Disney built these attractions in other parks at lower costs. This was one of the benefits for Disney to build a park they wouldn't own.

They build a DL in every new park first to lower risk.

But think of what they spent on the unproven designs in EPCOT, MGM, AK and DCA?

I imagine as they expanded their park holdings they are less worried about making large investments. Specifically now that they have learned that investing a little creates a park with fewer visitors than hoped.

Plus the most expensive atraction at TDS is the Miracosta hotel which they haven't duplicated since and could come out of the building cost.

 

[JasonDVC]

My guess is that it will probably be between 10 years and a decade until we see a new park.

 

[skiingfast]

My guess is that it will probably be between 10 years and a decade until we see a new park.

So are you saying on May 3rd 2020 a new park will be opening?

 

[JoShan1719]

Last time I spoke to an Imagineer, they insisted that all plans for a 5th theme park had been scrapped in favor of supplementing the existing theme parks with new attractions.

I think this is a much better idea than creating a new park. DHS in particular is in dire need of some revamping. When I was a kid it was such a wonderful park, and now I read that most people only give it a half a day. You know, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," well, it's broke. Fix it.

 

[Peter Pirate 2]

I think it should be "Adultland" ... Featuring all of the elements of PI and City Walk plus authentic replica's of famous 'red light districts' from around the world. Amsterdam, Thailand, Paris, you know kind of expanding on Epcot's theme and then so much more.

Great idea, right?

 

[fannatic]

I don't think that it's a matter of will they or should they anymore, but it's what are they working on. The Orlando Sentinel article that showed the Reedy Creek District projections last year also claimed that there could be 2 minor parks and thousands of hotel rooms added in the next 10 years. Disney has done a good job at being quiet about their plans, but that doesn't mean that they're not working on anything. Blue Sky Disney claimed that there were at least 3 different concepts for the 5th on the walls of Imagineering. Does anyone work for Disney or know someone who has heard current rumors?

 

[ChrisFL]

I don't think that it's a matter of will they or should they anymore, but it's what are they working on. The Orlando Sentinel article that showed the Reedy Creek District projections last year also claimed that there could be 2 minor parks and thousands of hotel rooms added in the next 10 years. Disney has done a good job at being quiet about their plans, but that doesn't mean that they're not working on anything. Blue Sky Disney claimed that there were at least 3 different concepts for the 5th on the walls of Imagineering. Does anyone work for Disney or know someone who has heard current rumors?

Well Imagineers are ALWAYS working on another project...its what keeps them employed

 

[ConcKahuna]

I don't think it would cost 4B to build a duplicate in WDW. Disney can build the rides now without the development costs that OLC had to pay. A lot of the ideas at TDS are from original plans to build what was called Westcot in DLR or other disney attractions. OLC ate up the design costs while Disney built these attractions in other parks at lower costs. This was one of the benefits for Disney to build a park they wouldn't own.

Hong Kong Disneyland cost an estimated $14 Billion to build.

Oh, and here are the contractual points between Disney and the Hong Kong government where I got that info:

http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/199911/02/1102137.htm

That is directly from the Hong Kong government website.

 

[skiingfast]

Well Imagineers are ALWAYS working on another project...its what keeps them employed

I agree, Epcot's world showcase was a takeoff of an original design from DL. And Walt had probably been thinking about his Epcot city since they built the new disney studios in Burbank.

I imagine they have a small team that just think of ideas for big projects full time. Half turn into single attractions the others go into a reference library.

 

[Horace Horsecollar]

Hong Kong Disneyland cost an estimated $14 Billion to build.

Keep in mind that the Hong Kong Dollar (HKD) and the United States Dollar (USD) are two different currencies. They are not equivalent.

Based on current exchange rates, HKD$14.1 billion works out to around USD$1.8 billion.

 

[skiingfast]

Hong Kong Disneyland cost an estimated $14 Billion to build.

Oh, and here are the contractual points between Disney and the Hong Kong government where I got that info:

http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/199911/02/1102137.htm

That is directly from the Hong Kong government website.

HK Disneyland is a resort not a park. Included in the expected expense is a DL a DTD Two confirmed resorts. A major land building project. A Train Station. A Lake. And surely more to come as they have a large area of land that looks like about the right area to put in a second gate.

 

[Melpuff]

I would hate to see a marvel park, personally. This is coming from someone who grew up close to Six Flags Great Adventure which is all super hero themed (trashy park). I know it wouldn't be trashy lol, I'm just personally sick of them.

Disney COULD use some more boy marketing to challenge Universal, but I don't think they need it since 10 little girls will buy princess costumes for every one boy that would whine enough to be in a super hero costume.

My vote would go to Disney Sea as well. Not that I think it would happen that's just what I would personally like haha.