Fewer smoking areas in Magic Kingdom

[EmilyS90]

Correct. E-cigs go in the smoking area & nowhere else.

What a bummer. I guess I'll scope out the areas for our trip then.

 

[ShayBells]

Limiting them is going to cause more people to smoke where they shouldn't

From the sounds of that link they are going to be far out of the way.

I don't get why they took the one out by space mountain. As far as the castle one. I understand why they took it out but that was really the only convenient one.

But these places are always being added and changed around. Every time I go ones moved or added or taken away. The only constant one in my experience is by Thunder mountain. And at least for me that's the worst one.

(just to add just in case I've never smoked out of a designated area and never will. I hate smoking around people who don't.)

 

[CinderElsa]

That's too bad, smokers are treated like lepers enough already... I think if they would provide the few places they had with shade, and make them easier to find, it would be a plus. And, yes, even those using an e-cig are forced into these areas, which basically exposes them to the very thing they are trying to quit.

(non-smoker here too)

E-cigs (even the "water vapor" ones) are still full of nasty chemicals, so unfortunately, unless Disney has "e-cig only" smoking areas, that's the way it needs to be.

 

[maxiesmom]

Yep you're right. I think a lot of smoking scofflaws want to do the right thing but can't find the smoking area because they keep reducing or moving them from year to year. Or they look at the map and determine it's too darn far away.

I can easily see my mom having that problem. No smoking area at all near the park entrance? That is just begging for people to smoke near the bag check, or by the bus stops. Or to hide by the restroom and smoke.

 

[Stefne]

E-cigs (even the "water vapor" ones) are still full of nasty chemicals, so unfortunately, unless Disney has "e-cig only" smoking areas, that's the way it needs to be.

It may very well depend on the brand you use; however the ingredients as listed on the back of the bottle I'm using are only propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, and flavoring, all of which are used in the processing of food as well...

 

[EmilyS90]

It may very well depend on the brand you use; however the ingredients as listed on the back of the bottle I'm using are only propylene glycol, vegetable glycerine, and flavoring, all of which are used in the processing of food as well...

I think people see weird words they aren't familiar with and immediately think they're awful.

 

[CinderElsa]

I think people see weird words they aren't familiar with and immediately think they're awful.

Those things might be used in food processing, but I don't want to inhale them.

At any rate, Disney isn't going to interview each e-cig user about the chemical makeup of the particular formula they're using.

 

[Rose77]

Here's a link to the new map with the new hub depicted and designated smoking areas: Feburary 2015 map

Seems like the only change is they took away the smoking area on the walkway next to the castle.

 

[DisneyChula]

I must be oblivious. I have never noticed anyone smoking outside of the designated areas in the parks, so I assumed the policy was being enforced.

I haven't either, but I did have a woman start making comments loudly about how rude smokers are that they feel they can just light up wherever they want especially in a park full of children. She stopped and left in a huff when I pointed out that she was in the designated smoking area.

 

[ConnieB]

In my experience, the CMs won't make a fuss about it if a guest says they won't move....UNLESS another guest complains. Complaints are the best way to get the rules enforced. I think the attitude is "if no one is complaining than don't make a scene, but if someone complains enforce the rules". I've found this to be the same with line jumpers....the CMs see it but don't do anything until someone complains.

 

[luvsJack]

Doing away with the one by Space Mtn doesn't make any sense whatsoever. I have never been in that smoking area that anyone came anywhere near it unless to smoke. No one walks by it or anything. I actually enjoyed that one during our Thanksgiving visits as it seemed like my own little "not so crowded" part of the world. The one by the castle, I get. I didn't use that one because of the absolutely ridiculous way that people would act walking through there.

 

[ConnieB]

I don't smoke and don't want others smoking around me. I would really prefer if theme parks would go the way of bars and restaurants here in Virginia and just ban smoking out right. If you want to smoke in your house or car where it doesn't pollute the air I breathe, go for it.

I'm a non smoker too, but the reality that you're asking for is not really comparing apples to oranges. In a bar or restaurant with no smoking they can easily step outside and do their business......a theme park the exit is rather ridiculously far to expect someone to go each time they want to have a cigarette.

In MY perfect world, everyone would stop smoking and all the tobacco employees would make chocolate instead.....but since it's not my world, yet......I think reasonable accomodations have to be made. Out of the way areas would be better for those not wanting to be around it, but still providing those in need somewhere to go.

 

[minnie mum]

Here's a link to the new map with the new hub depicted and designated smoking areas: Feburary 2015 map

Seems like the only change is they took away the smoking area on the walkway next to the castle.

I was there this morning. When I went to where the DSA was yesterday, it had vanished. No one knew why, or if it was gone or moved. I spoke with 2 very pissed off smokers who just lit up there anyway. And I don't blame them, since the map is inaccurate anyway (it still shows the DSA by the castle) So now if a smoker is in fantasyland they have to hike to BTMRR, Space Mountain, or the Adventureland bridge. And people wonder why some smokers smoke outside the DSAs. I think the vast majority of smokers prefer to follow rules and be as courteous as possible. But when TPTB continue to remove DSAs, more and more smokers are going to break the rules out of frustration.

 

[CounselorX]

My wife and I are both ex-smokers and I can tell you that this is a bad decision. There's nothing you can do to make a smoker not smoke, and the less designated smoking areas = the more smokers you will have lighting up in random areas. If you didn't like the few smoking areas that did exist, then be ready to be even more displeased with an increasing occurrence of the occasional smoke cloud floating in the wind.

 

[CounselorX]

Those things might be used in food processing, but I don't want to inhale them.

Then you better wear an oxygen mask anytime you go on a ride that has a fog feature because it's the same thing, although personal vaporizers produce less fog.

 

[alvernon90]

So now if a smoker is in fantasyland they have to hike to BTMRR, Space Mountain, or the Adventureland bridge. And people wonder why some smokers smoke outside the DSAs. I think the vast majority of smokers prefer to follow rules and be as courteous as possible. But when TPTB continue to remove DSAs, more and more smokers are going to break the rules out of frustration.

This sounds like the justification a lot of parents have for letting their children urinate in the bushes while in the parks. "The bathrooms are so far away, it is very inconvenient get to a DUA (designated urination area, aka restroom) and therefore out of frustration I'll just let my kid pee in the flower planter."

I don't see similar sympathy for alcoholics who are sneaking swigs out of flasks while in line for Space Mountain because they don't want to go all the way to BOG to get a drink. Addiction is not an excuse for a refusal to just walk over to the designated addiction area. If someone is so desperate for a cigarette that they cannot even plan ahead to make it to the smoking area, they probably should be seeking in-patient treatment rather than exhaling smoke all over guests who don't want to inhale their disgusting stench.

 

[Cyrano]

Folks please do not debate the pros and cons of smoking/e-cigs.
This thread is regarding availability of smoking areas

 

[vicki_c]

I'm not sure about the one behind the castle but these other changes were already in effect during in our trip 1/23-1/27. Space mountain location with the benches was already gone and the one by the Dole Whip stand was gone, none on walkway between Liberty Sq and Frontireland and new one right before bridge to Adventureland.

 

[ShayBells]

It's doubtful disney would ever go 100% smoke free. (Depending on the percentage of guests that are smokers which id be curious as to what that percentage is) because they would risk losing out on all that profit because unless someone wants to drive 30+ minutes off property just to smoke every time... they aren't going to vacation there. Even if they just banned it inside the parks... as of now you can't smoke right outside a park so stepping outside the park to smoke isn't an option. (Not sure what the current rule is in the parking lot.)

 

[kaytieeldr]

I don't smoke and don't want others smoking around me. I would really prefer if theme parks would go the way of bars and restaurants here in Virginia and just ban smoking out right. If you want to smoke in your house or car where it doesn't pollute the air I breathe, go for it.

So it seems like you feel the parks should each be enclosed in some type of huge building? That's how it can be considered comparable to bars and restaurants.

Those things might be used in food processing, but I don't want to inhale them.

At any rate, Disney isn't going to interview each e-cig user about the chemical makeup of the particular formula they're using.

Ah, so you prefer to continue ingesting the e-cig vapor ingredients?