FastPass Policy Change

[sdzman]

I cant see WDW creating a class system for its guests....DVC -----> Value. Onsite is on thing but favoring who spends the most $$ onsite is a bad move IMO. Everyone who steps through the turnstiles deserves the same experience.

 

[Chelley00]

Due respect you can resent it if you like but we (my family) spends a heckuva lot more at DW than most guests. We are DVC members. We own a lot of points and pay a LOT in annual dues. We by PAPs and we do EVERYthing on-property. We go 2-3 times a year. Do I think we deserve some special treatment? You tell me..

Those dues and points entitle you to accomodations, and that's what you pay for. Not perks in the parks. When I have to pay the same amount for tickets as you do, staying onsite or off, I think I should be entitled to the same things in the parks you get, because that's what the tickets are for...admission into the parks and the attractions it contains.

 

[Marshel]

For every person who thinks this is a good idea, I can guarantee there's a person (like myself) who thinks it's a terrible idea that goes against Walt's vision. While Disney wants to keep its best guests happy, they don't want to risk offending their day guests either. BTW the Universal system has had it flaws, during peak periods standby wait times shoot way up; they don't like talking about it, but they've had to refund quite a few day admissions to irate guests who didn't seem to equate 2 hour lines with good value for their money.

 

[jackieleanne]

What about people like myself still studying and who live in England paying thousands of pounds just to stay in Orlando and cant even afford the cheaper of disney properties, I dont see why we should be treated any different when we are already paying a lot just to come to disney. I think the FP at Disney works fine as it is.

 

[lustergirl]

Due respect you can resent it if you like but we (my family) spends a heckuva lot more at DW than most guests. We are DVC members. We own a lot of points and pay a LOT in annual dues. We by PAPs and we do EVERYthing on-property. We go 2-3 times a year. Do I think we deserve some special treatment? You tell me.

As the above poster says, life ain't always fair. Fairness to everyone is called socialism. No thank you. Capitalistic societies are based on the fact that those who spend and make more, get more. Welcome to America. Sorry if that hurts your feelings.

Just because you spend more money at DW than others do doesn't make you a better person than anyone else. You don't deserve any special treatment than someone staying at a value resort. If I were to own points in the DVC I wouldn't feel this way. Everyone should be entitled to the same extras such as fastpass regardless of where they stay. A person staying at a value, moderate, or deluxe resort pays the same amount for park tickets as the next person.

You are right- you think just like an American. We have a tendency to take things for granted. Most Americans that have lots have that elitist attitude that other people can't stand.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Those dues and points entitle you to accomodations, and that's what you pay for. Not perks in the parks. When I have to pay the same amount for tickets as you do, staying onsite or off, I think I should be entitled to the same things in the parks you get, because that's what the tickets are for...admission into the parks and the attractions it contains.

What about people like myself still studying and who live in England paying thousands of pounds just to stay in Orlando and cant even afford the cheaper of disney properties, I dont see why we should be treated any different when we are already paying a lot just to come to disney. I think the FP at Disney works fine as it is.

But who says it's going to be based on where you stay? Maybe the idea is that people would pay different prices for admission to the parks to have certain perks attached. This is not unlike the variety of park pass options that they offer now.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

I think it is within Disney's discresion whether to invoke a tiered system. Disney is a for profit company and their motives are profit based.

It really isn't a matter of "should they" it is a matter of "will they".

I have always respected Disney's policies regarding "special treatment". So far, they have managed to make their resorts attractive without alienating non-resort guests. I think this policy will continue, I think they may add FP perks for resort guests, but not to the point where resentment builds for non-resort guests. They know how to walk the line.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

I have always respected Disney's policies regarding "special treatment". So far, they have managed to make their resorts attractive without alienating non-resort guests. I think this policy will continue, I think they may add FP perks for resort guests, but not to the point where resentment builds for non-resort guests. They know how to walk the line.

Since Universal has two onsite Resorts wouldn't it be harder for WDW to try something like they have, since they have a lot more Resorts?

 

[kymom99]

One thing to remember is that Disney World is not just 4 theme parks. People who stay there aren't just there for that. A special fast pass wouldn't hold the same value for everyone.
Also, not everyone who comes there and spends lots of money are going to spend the night there, as a previous poster noted. Disney makes a lot of money off of people such as church groups, youth groups, etc. who may decide to go somewhere else if they don't feel that they are getting much bang for their buck. Disney is not just a place for people who stay on site. As someone said previously, once you walk in the gates, it doesn't matter where you lay your head at night. The resorts are separate from the parks, in my view.
I agree that the people who are spending more for the deluxe resorts are getting what they pay for-at the resorts-or they wouldn't stay there. Disney still needs to fill the other resorts. Some people are dedicated Disney visitors and this is why you may use DVC. The same goes for those who stay on site. We have done this 3 times, for the obvious reasons, transportation, EMH, and Magical Express.
I personally can see my family coming to Orlando in the not so far off future to visit other attractions given the fact that my son is getting older. We would probably include a few days at Disney, but not if we felt there was no incentive to do so. We could be just as happy exploring other options. Fastpass takes some of the frustration out of touring the parks. If I'm going to be frustrated, I'll just go somewhere else and spend my money.


My point is...leave fastpass alone. It works. Find soem other way to reward those who spend more.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

Since Universal has two onsite Resorts wouldn't it be harder for WDW to try something like they have, since they have a lot more Resorts?

Right! Disney can't offer anything like Universal, because of the sheer number of resort guests.

They could however do something more subtle, like offering shortened time for gettting another FP for resort guests, or the abilty to get FP at the resort. Like I said, they won't do anything drastic enough to alienate non-resort guests.

 

[jellybeans0607]

i had read an article years ago about a change in the fast pass system which would allow onsite guests to get fast passes from their room tvs in the morning. at the time i thought, what a great idea. now at least 5 years later, im glad this was just a rumor. i would prefer it to stay the way it is.
as far as im concerned if you stay out of the park and youre the first person in the gate, theres no reason you should be the first person with a fast pass. the person who stayed out of the park is still buying their over priced admission tickets.

 

[asmit4]

Right! Disney can't offer anything like Universal, because of the sheer number of resort guests.

They could however do something more subtle, like offering shortened time for gettting another FP for resort guests, or the abilty to get FP at the resort. Like I said, they won't do anything drastic enough to alienate non-resort guests.

Exactly! I stated this above regarding the # of onsite guests being too large. I think allowing onsite guests to get 1 FP or 2 FPs before they leave their resort for the day would be a nice perk. It would allow onsite guests to get something extra- but not so much that it would hurt offsite guests.

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

Right! Disney can't offer anything like Universal, because of the sheer number of resort guests.

They could however do something more subtle, like offering shortened time for gettting another FP for resort guests, or the abilty to get FP at the resort. Like I said, they won't do anything drastic enough to alienate non-resort guests.

So what you saying is they could offer the onsite guests a chance to get the Fast Passes at the Resorts within a specifc time period and the offsite guests can still get them at the parks. This way there would be less of a chance of them running out of Fast Passes in the parks.

 

[tomerin]

I think that a tiered FP system would be great. If people are willing to pay for perks, why not? I agree with the people who say that Disney is a business, not a charity.

if disney sees that i spend a couple of thousand dollars on my vacation to the world, doesnt it make business sense to try and entice my family and myself back to the world by making us feel appreciated by offering more perks to us. you buy into DVC and spend a lot of money, you then buy the discounted AP's and return more then once because you have the pass and spend more money more times. see the thinking here.

am i a better person because i can afford a dvc timeshare then the person who has to stay at ASM, no i am not but i am definitely the type of guest, that disney wants in their parks. if you think that disney doesnt know thow much a guest spends then you are kidding yourselves, especially if you use your room key as a charge card. think about it rationally. what would WDW be like if everyone just spent money on passes and little else. it would be six flags!!!(trying to be funny here so please laugh)

look i am a dvc member and do spend lots of money when we go to WDW. it doesnt make us better then anyone else, just more fortunate to be able to do this every 2 years. if WDW wants to offer me perks like special fastpasses as a perk, free or pay, then you bet i am gonna take it and love it.

 

[asmit4]

So what you saying is they could offer the onsite guests a chance to get the Fast Passes at the Resorts within a specifc time period and the offsite guests can still get them at the parks. This way there would be less of a chance of them running out in the parks.

It would depend on how they would do it. They could leave the # of FPs the same- let's say hypothetically- they offer 1,000 FPs for EE each day. Now you have to be one of the first 1000 guests to get one.

IF they offered it to onsite guests, they could release 200 to onsiters that morning on tv, at a kiosk, or whatever. And then they would have 800 available to offsiters.

OR

They could have 1000 for EE for offsiters and offer an additional 200 for onsite guests available every morning at the parks.

This would allow onsite guests to get an FP theoretically quicker..you can get an FP every 2 hours or whenever your window hits. If you pick up your FP at 7am at the resort, rather than 8:30 at the park, you are 1.5 hours ahead in FPs than the offsiters. Hence the advantage. That way when you enter the parks you are almost ready to get another FP upon arrival. Therby having 2 FPs by 9am in hand for later in the day when it gets more crowded.

 

[TheTXTaylors5]

You got me intrigued. So, I did some searching on the internet . . .

I thought I would share some information I found regarding Disneyland Paris. They give out VIP FASTPASSES for people staying in Castle Club Rooms (Similar to Concierge). They work like a regular fastpass only you can use them any time between certain hours (ex: 11 am and 2 hours prior to park closing.) and you don't have to wait to collect another FP. You just hang onto it for your length of stay.

After reading that, it might be something they would use at WDW too. But, also let "regular" WDW resort guests obtain FP as it is now with the waiting two hours to obtain another FP. Then, let non-resort guests pay for the FP perk (like Universal). I've heard the rumors about the FP changes for the past YEAR. Something IS in the works. "What" is only the answer.

Also, Universal/Islands of Adventure has given their onsite guests free fastpasses. Why all the hoopla over WDW maybe doing the same? Staying onsite IS more expensive. With all the competition in the area, Disney is always looking to add more and more perks to entice guests (ex: free September dining, bounce-back room rates, ME, check-in for flights at resort, EMHs, etc . . . ). With the lagging economy, expect MORE perks for onsite WDW guest. We stay, play, eat and spend more at WDW than offsite guests and FL residents. Like mentioned, Disney is a COMPANY. $$$$$ speaks.

- Jennifer

 

[lustergirl]

if disney sees that i spend a couple of thousand dollars on my vacation to the world, doesnt it make business sense to try and entice my family and myself back to the world by making us feel appreciated by offering more perks to us. you buy into DVC and spend a lot of money, you then buy the discounted AP's and return more then once because you have the pass and spend more money more times. see the thinking here.

am i a better person because i can afford a dvc timeshare then the person who has to stay at ASM, no i am not but i am definitely the type of guest, that disney wants in their parks. if you think that disney doesnt know thow much a guest spends then you are kidding yourselves, especially if you use your room key as a charge card. think about it rationally. what would WDW be like if everyone just spent money on passes and little else. it would be six flags!!!(trying to be funny here so please laugh)

look i am a dvc member and do spend lots of money when we go to WDW. it doesnt make us better then anyone else, just more fortunate to be able to do this every 2 years. if WDW wants to offer me perks like special fastpasses as a perk, free or pay, then you bet i am gonna take it and love it.

aah but a family staying at a value resort even spends over 2 thousand dollars on a week's vacation.

 

[RFrank9504]

Exactly.

I completely agree they should do more for onsite guests/APs/DVC as an AP we go like 7-10 long weekends a year. Average that out we spend about 30 days a year (woohoo-i like the way that sounds) I think change to the system is a good idea.

 

[Sandy321]

I just wish they could stop the FP abuses - ie those that sell FP on ebay!

I saw a thread here where there is a place to have FP scanned before you get on the line!! Call me stupid, but I had no idea people sold FP on ebay and actually used them!

just search ebay for DisneyWorld Fast Pass

http://search.ebay.com/Disney-World...ZR40QQssPageNameZRC0023QQ_trksidZp1638Q2em120

42 hits!

 

[CR Resort Fan 4 Life]

It would depend on how they would do it. They could leave the # of FPs the same- let's say hypothetically- they offer 1,000 FPs for EE each day. Now you have to be one of the first 1000 guests to get one.

IF they offered it to onsite guests, they could release 200 to onsiters that morning on tv, at a kiosk, or whatever. And then they would have 800 available to offsiters.

OR

They could have 1000 for EE for offsiters and offer an additional 200 for onsite guests available every morning at the parks.

This would allow onsite guests to get an FP theoretically quicker..you can get an FP every 2 hours or whenever your window hits. If you pick up your FP at 7am at the resort, rather than 8:30 at the park, you are 1.5 hours ahead in FPs than the offsiters. Hence the advantage. That way when you enter the parks you are almost ready to get another FP upon arrival. Therby having 2 FPs by 9am in hand for later in the day when it gets more crowded.

Well if WDW ever did something like that for the onsite guests I am sure they would know how to figure it all out.