FastPass Policy Change

[CanadianGuy]

First Pleasure Island, then the changes to Garden Grill and Liberty tree, then the 90days ADR change and now possibly this!

Disney sure is making a lot of changes and fast. I wonder why....

Of course, this is just a rumor, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did mess around with the fastpass system since I've also been hearing the rumors for a while.

Everybody remain calm..

1. This is a rumor.

2. Disney does hold these patents.

3. They also hold patents on getting Fastpasses on your cell phone. And something called a 'virtual fastpass' ?? I'm still waiting for both of those.

4. Jim Hill Media? Why not just ask the parking attendant at Six Flags Magic Mountain in Valencia, CA for info about Disney. He'd probably be more accurate.

I'm moving this thread to the rumors board.. where it SURELY belongs.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Maybe they could just close down one park each day for resort only guests. Say MK on Monday, DHS on Tuesday, AK on Wednesday, and Epcot on Thursday. Then there could be a tiered fastpass system within that park for the various resort people. Also, if you show that you spend enough money, you will get to meet Walt himself at the end of the day.

I know you're being sarcastic but if that plan would maximize the profits of WDW, why wouldn't they do that? Why are we turning to WDW to be a shining example of equality?

 

[Bigbluebear]

Just because you spend more money at DW than others do doesn't make you a better person than anyone else. You don't deserve any special treatment than someone staying at a value resort. If I were to own points in the DVC I wouldn't feel this way. Everyone should be entitled to the same extras such as fastpass regardless of where they stay. A person staying at a value, moderate, or deluxe resort pays the same amount for park tickets as the next person.

You are right- you think just like an American. We have a tendency to take things for granted. Most Americans that have lots have that elitist attitude that other people can't stand.

If he had any sense he would realise that as he is spending more money he is getting better. Its not like he gets the same standard of hotel as somebody who stays at POP or All stars. If more money was paid, but for the same standard of accomodation, experience etc, then yes give extra perks.

But choosing to spend the extra money to get better stuff, is rewarded by the fact you are getting better quality.

Why do people always want to have more. Accept what you are given and get on with it. Theres people in the world who through no fault of their own cant even afford to eat, never mind think about arguing about deserving more freebies because they spend more money.

 

[Bigbluebear]

I know you're being sarcastic but if that plan would maximize the profits of WDW, why wouldn't they do that? Why are we turning to WDW to be a shining example of equality?

Maybe it would be nice if there was one place in the world where money wasnt the motivation.

Making people happy from all walks of life was the reason the place was built in the first place. It would be nice if some sembrance of tradition could remain in a world where its being destryoyed all around us because of corporate greed.

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Why do people always want to have more. Accept what you are given and get on with it. Theres people in the world who through no fault of their own cant even afford to eat, never mind think about arguing about deserving more freebies because they spend more money.

I can appreciate your observations on the plagues of the world but I don't see how that really enters into this discussion. I mean, using that logic, you could make the argument that Disney World should close down and give the money they make from selling off their stuff to Africa. But we aren't trying to solve the world's problems and most of us recognize that Walt Disney World isn't in the business of non-government humanitarian work. And we aren't trying to get "freebies". Instead, some of us think that it's not a bad idea to allow people to exchange money for goods and services. After all, isn't that what WDW is really all about?

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Maybe it would be nice if there was one place in the world where money wasnt the motivation.

Making people happy from all walks of life was the reason the place was built in the first place. It would be nice if some sembrance of tradition could remain in a world where its being destryoyed all around us because of corporate greed.

There actual are places in this world where money isn't a motivation. Many religions provide such spaces. However, I don't see that being the business that Disney is in. They are in the business of selling people experiences filled with warm, fuzzies. And sometimes they are so good at it that people forget that they are, in fact, making billions of dollars in the process.

It's always nice picture Mr. Disney as a saint who cared not about the almighty dollar, and I do think that he genuinely wished to make people happy, but the fact remains that he was a businessman. Nowhere was their evidence that his plain was to provide "happy experiences" for free.

 

[asmit4]

I know you're being sarcastic but if that plan would maximize the profits of WDW, why wouldn't they do that? Why are we turning to WDW to be a shining example of equality?

Exactly! I have no idea why everyone seems to think that DW makes/should make decisions based on anything but the almighty $$$. It's a business- sure it's based on 'magic 'as many of us love, but make no mistake- it IS about $$$. They look at what people want/need/like and determine if people want/need/like it enough that they could make MORE $$$. (Hence the fast pass system- believe it or not- the FP system has little to do with making us happier, it has to do with making $$. The logic is that the less time WE spend in line the more time we spend SHOPPING and EATING....the more $$$ we spend!)

DW is a business, they are in business to please the shareholders, period. This may be offensive to some people but it's a fact.

I vote that DW do what they always do. Research, ask, figure out what people want, what is viable and do it. It is clear that other parks they own like DL and Disney in Paris have had/do have plans like this that allow better access. I don't doubt that in the next few years, some version of this will come to DW and I don't think it should ruin people's vacation. Maybe it's my business degree talking- I just see everything from a business standpoint.

 

[TheTXTaylors5]

First Pleasure Island, then the changes to Garden Grill and Liberty tree, then the 90days ADR change and now possibly this!

What are they doing to GG and LTT??????

- Jennifer

 

[asmit4]

There actual are places in this world where money isn't a motivation. Many religions provide such spaces.

Guess ya haven't been to our church! We are part of a upper middle class Catholic church- we were very lucky to find a house we fell in love with in our price range in the area. We are in our 20s and first time homebuyers, it's RARE to find ANYONE in our church that isn't 35 and up with kids, lawyers, doctors, designer clothing all around...Our church is CONSTANTLY talking $$$, our priest is constantly attempting to make nice with those that have the $$ to endlessly give and give....meanwhile- my husband and I find ways to give of ourselves- he is a eucharistic minister/lector and I teach confirmation classes. Let's just say that us 'poor folk' are overlooked when it comes to certain church events, and socials b/c they KNOW we don't yet have the $$$ to give. MANY events are ticketed- and they run over 100 per person- which my husband and I could never afford to attend.

Yes, even the churches are about $$$!

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Maybe it would be nice if there was one place in the world where money wasnt the motivation.

Making people happy from all walks of life was the reason the place was built in the first place. It would be nice if some sembrance of tradition could remain in a world where its being destryoyed all around us because of corporate greed.

They tried that. It was called the Soviet Block.

 

[TheTXTaylors5]

We've stayed at Value, Moderate and Deluxe resorts on WDW property. There IS a better level of service and amenities the more you pay even within WDW resorts already. But, that is expected due to the extra money you pay for the more luxurious rooms, pools and toiletries. No one is better than anyone else. We've bestilled that mentality to our children too. Just some people can afford more "luxuries" than others. But, be appreciative of what you do have.

For those going to WDW the next couple of months . . .

Have a magical trip!

- Jennifer

 

[Bigbluebear]

I can appreciate your observations on the plagues of the world but I don't see how that really enters into this discussion. I mean, using that logic, you could make the argument that Disney World should close down and give the money they make from selling off their stuff to Africa. But we aren't trying to solve the world's problems and most of us recognize that Walt Disney World isn't in the business of non-government humanitarian work. And we aren't trying to get "freebies". Instead, some of us think that it's not a bad idea to allow people to exchange money for goods and services. After all, isn't that what WDW is really all about?

It was relevant to one persons quote, who basically said he deserves more because he pays more. He wanted more freebies because he pays more. If its an extra without him paying anymore then its a freebie.

As for other comments, im perfectly aware that Disney is a profit making organisation, which is geared towards making as much money as possible. I dont have any gripe with that.

However those in charge would be well served to take note of the person and his morals, businessman or not, who made it possible for them to be in the position they are in now. Its getting less and less like the way its supposed to be.

 

[TheTXTaylors5]

Guess ya haven't been to our church! We are part of a upper middle class Catholic church- we were very lucky to find a house we fell in love with in our price range in the area. We are in our 20s and first time homebuyers, it's RARE to find ANYONE in our church that isn't 35 and up with kids, lawyers, doctors, designer clothing all around...Our church is CONSTANTLY talking $$$, our priest is constantly attempting to make nice with those that have the $$ to endlessly give and give....meanwhile- my husband and I find ways to give of ourselves- he is a eucharistic minister/lector and I teach confirmation classes. Let's just say that us 'poor folk' are overlooked when it comes to certain church events, and socials b/c they KNOW we don't yet have the $$$ to give. MANY events are ticketed- and they run over 100 per person- which my husband and I could never afford to attend.

Yes, even the churches are about $$$!

That is such a shame. Sorry they make you feel that way. Maybe, you can take your great spirit and kindness to a different church where you would be more appreciated??????? Keep your head held high. They are not better people and will not get into heaven ahead of you by forking over more money than you. Hang in there.

- Jennifer

 

[PrincessTiffany]

Guess ya haven't been to our church! We are part of a upper middle class Catholic church- we were very lucky to find a house we fell in love with in our price range in the area. We are in our 20s and first time homebuyers, it's RARE to find ANYONE in our church that isn't 35 and up with kids, lawyers, doctors, designer clothing all around...Our church is CONSTANTLY talking $$$, our priest is constantly attempting to make nice with those that have the $$ to endlessly give and give....meanwhile- my husband and I find ways to give of ourselves- he is a eucharistic minister/lector and I teach confirmation classes. Let's just say that us 'poor folk' are overlooked when it comes to certain church events, and socials b/c they KNOW we don't yet have the $$$ to give. MANY events are ticketed- and they run over 100 per person- which my husband and I could never afford to attend.

Yes, even the churches are about $$$!

You might need to find a new church.

 

[Chelley00]

You might need to find a new church.

Absolutely! I work for a church and not all churches think that everyone is a dollar sign (and I'm the accountant!)

 

[Bigbluebear]

You might need to find a new church.

The catholic church is one of the richest organisations in the world.

 

[PrincessTiffany]

The catholic church is one of the richest organisations in the world.

Yes, but that doesn't mean that each individual church is made up of a congregation of greedy elitists.

 

[GhostLady]

The catholic church is one of the richest organisations in the world.

DH was a dedicated Catholic and loved his church until a new priest came in and started talking about nothing but money. He stopped going to church. It was almost as if he felt like he couldn't even afford to go anymore. I am not a Catholic but I find that very sad. He hasn't attended church in years (since before I met him) but we still regularly get collection envelops every month. Not once has anyone asked him to come back for church services but they are still sending the envelops. Seems to me like they don't really miss him but do miss his money.
Before anyone starts flaming me: This is nothing against Catholics or the Catholic Church. This is just his personal experience. .

I know this is way OT but I just saw this and had to comment.

As for the actual topic: I am happy just to have fast passes at all. I don't really care how they do it but I do see everyone's side on the issue. As long as they have something, I am happy. We usually visit other theme parks every year and they have nothing like the fast pass system so I can't wait to get to WDW in October to check it out.

 

[Katiebell]

I don't see anyone saying these things. It's not a matter of who "deserves" what. It's about who are able and willing to pay for things. Just because I can afford to go to WDW and do and others can't and, therefore, don't doesn't mean that I'm saying I "deserve" to go more than anyone else.

Sadly, those are almost word-for-word quotes of a couple of posts in this thread.

There are posts in this thread that state "I deserve". I don't want to quote them because I find them to be rude.

Thank you Becca, I agree.

We've stayed at Value, Moderate and Deluxe resorts on WDW property. There IS a better level of service and amenities the more you pay even within WDW resorts already. But, that is expected due to the extra money you pay for the more luxurious rooms, pools and toiletries. No one is better than anyone else. We've bestilled that mentality to our children too. Just some people can afford more "luxuries" than others. But, be appreciative of what you do have.

For those going to WDW the next couple of months . . .

Have a magical trip!

- Jennifer

Thanks! We'll be at POFQ in September. We stayed at the Pop our first visit, which was fun, but really looking forward to trying out FQ. It looks so lovely!

 

[Bigbluebear]

Yes, but that doesn't mean that each individual church is made up of a congregation of greedy elitists.

I never said it did!

I was just passing comment.