Fake fastpassers

[blondeheroine]

I've never had my resort pass checked at the resort monorail. That would just be a pain in the butt, if you ask me.

 

[JESW]

Does anyone else remember about 10+ years ago when you had to show your resort id to be able to ride the Disney buses?? I remember doing this in 1993.

Jill

 

[Robo]

Does anyone else remember about 10+ years ago when you had to show your resort id to be able to ride the Disney buses?? I remember doing this in 1993.

I don't doubt that you might have run across this at times, but I have been riding the Disney buses since there WERE Disney buses, and have yet to need to show an ID, now or then.

I do remember back when it was SAID that you need to show one (and we were always "ready"), but we have never needed to do so.

BTW, Disney transportation is available to all guests, included with resort stays, and/or simply park admission tickets.

 

[bleeps]

Back to OP's point -- as we learn on these boards, do have a little patience since sometimes what you see isn't always what you think it is....

Last December, just as we were about to enter the regular line for Jungle Cruise, I went to snap a quick photo of DH and DS in front of the big poster/ride sign at the entrance (we love this ride). The CM out front, who was checking people's fast passes befor allowing them to enter the FP queue, told me to give him my camera so I could be in the picture too -- a lovely gesture that we really appreciated. By the time this transpired, a whole truck-load (or so it seemed!) of people had gotten into the regular line. The CM said -- hey, it was my idea that held you up, so please be my guest in the FP line. We were hesitant but he insisted -- he said, just tell the CM collecting the FPs at the end that I told you to go through. We did it, but I was mortified -- especially at the point when I had to explain to the CM at the end why we were in the FP line without FPs. The CM was totally fine about it, but we felt very sheepish and I'm sure there were people who thought we were jerks who'd tried to pull a "fast" one.

SO, things aren't always what they seem----

 

[Robo]

...We were hesitant but he insisted -- he said, just tell the CM collecting the FPs at the end that I told you to go through. We did it, but I was mortified -- especially at the point when I had to explain to the CM at the end why we were in the FP line without FPs...
SO, things aren't always what they seem----

Nobody here faults (or is upset over) these little bits of Disney Magic that come your way.
We hope we all get them... in fact, that's what this year's new PROMOTION is all about!

But this thread is about the blatant cheaters who DO try to "put something over" on the system.

You said that you felt "mortified" about doing what you were supposed to be doing...
THAT's the sign of an honest person, one who recognizes that its bad to do the wrong thing.

OTOH, there are too many folks who do NOT feel anything... other than a sense of accomplishment when the "get by" with cheating.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Personally, I do feel bad for families who do the walk of shame from the FP entrances; it's possible they're not cheaters but simply don't the concept. In fact, I've seen people get a FP then go directly to the FP entrance. I really think it's a language problem.

However unlikely, I'd prefer to think that over the inability to tell time. Remember, the OP stated that one person in the offending party said, "Let's go, we have fastpasses." They apparently DO understand the concepts of both FastPass and cheating.

I think cracks about another poster's grammactical skills are out of line.

You took that as a crack? I took it as musings/observations of a poster who's read the same quote several times in this thread.

During the Labor Day weekend, I was waiting at the FP entrance for DH and DD so we could do a baby swap at BTMR. A group of 4 who barely spoke english got a FP and then immediately gave it to the CM at the FP line....seeing that they completely did not understand the concept he gave them FP that he had in hand and let them through. They were going to be very dissapointed at the next ride..........

Or, they DID understand FastPass and used the same ruse to gain immediate access to all the FastPass attractions...

1) It is a shame you feel this way.
2) After all

This is ridiculous!!!

Um, RustyScupper was displaying,,, is it irony? Sarcasm? A wry sense of humor?

I highly recommend the GF's swimming pool. We stopped in there on our way back. My wife didn't have a bathing suit so she just had a cocktail by the pool bar, but I was wearing shorts, and nothing makes the long hot trip back to the parking lot easier than a quick detour for a swim.

Oh! I saw you! Your wife was the one who put her elbow in a small puddle of melted ice on the bar that the bartender hadn't wiped up, so you were, ahem, 'vocal' about her displeasure and she got all her drinks free, right, and they offered you a room at the GF?

 

[mattsdragon]

I'm sadden that you were so happy by someone's embarrassment you were so happy that they were send back and i can tell by the excitement in your writing just how happy it made you, before we judge this family, was it their first time in Disney and had no idea what a fast pass line was? i sure hope i'm not the only disappointed reader here.

Personally, your attitude disgusts me. It's this kind of milquetoast attitude that feels sorry for the offender that causes murders, rapists and child molesters get paroled before their debt to society has been paid. Don't feel sorry for the person breaking the rules set forth, feel sorry for the person that is getting the screw put to them because of the rule offender. Why do people misplace their sympathy?!?

originally posted by bavaria. . . would also add be careful of jumping to conclusions.

Thanks to all of those guests in the FP who jeered and booed at me when Buzz shut down earlier this year. I am very claustrophic and was having difficulty breathing - a very kind and observant CM saw my distress, grabbed me by the hand and tried to clear a path to get me out into the fresh air.

Obviously many in the line thought that I was cutting into the FP line..... I did actually have a FP but only that CM tried to help, even when I asked the people behind me to step to the side so that I could leave...

The OPs post was pretty clear that those were FP queue jumpers, but that may not always be the .

Bavaria wins the "Well, I had this happen to me before because I have a legitimate disability, so it may have happened to all these other's" award.

Note. . .a disability usually notes that you are a rare exception, and when people blatently break the rules, it's usually not because of a disability. I get so fed up with people making a million excuses for people acting like pieces of crap. Sometimes a piece of crap is just a piece of crap and we should all be relieved when it gets shoveled into the manure pile.

 

[flortlebap]

Personally, your attitude disgusts me. It's this kind of milquetoast attitude that feels sorry for the offender that causes murders, rapists and child molesters get paroled before their debt to society has been paid.

Could you be a little more melodramatic, please?

 

[seashoreCM]

I think cracks about another poster's grammactical skills are out of line.

OT: Not only that but, anyone who starts to make cracks about someone else's grammar has run out of useful things to say and has lost the argument.

I would also add be careful of jumping to conclusions.

OT: Jumping to conclusions is normally bad and it is reasonable to use "jumping to conclusions" itself as part of a criticism.

In a generic sense the CM who took your picture should not have put you through the fastpass line without fastpasses. That is like a cashier's slipping by an item from your shopping cart without ringing it up.

Disney hints:
http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/disney.htm

 

[CleveRocks]

In a generic sense the CM who took your picture should not have put you through the fastpass line without fastpasses. That is like a cashier's slipping by an item from your shopping cart without ringing it up.

I respectfully disagree.

A cashier who doesn't ring up an item you are taking from the store is stealing from the employer, is actually costing the employer a tangible amount of money, messing up inventory, etc. Plus, the employer NEVER encourages employees to steal from the employer to help out a customer.

A Disney CM spreading some pixie dust, especially for what seems like a reasonable reason (WOW! I just coined a phrase!), is actually carrying out the mission of the employer rather than acting against the employer's best interest.

 

[i<3Disney]

I agree with Eric because I was once a CM working in Tomorrowland and a few times for different reasons I let families in the fastpass line when they didn't have fastpass. For example, a child was crying because his family had time for one more attraction and his favorite was Space Ranger Spin. I was working the line with an hour wait and his mother explained to him they just didn't have the time to ride. I overheard the conversation and truly believed the family was upset they wouldn't get to ride so I let them in the fastpass lane. Ending a family's vacation on a high note is one of the gifts of being a cast member.

Someone disagreeing with this would have to disagree with Walt Disney World's whole philosophy as cast members are encouraged to do random acts of pixie dust as often as they can. Families who are lucky to be sprinkled with it shouldn't be scowled at.

My original intent of starting this thread however is to show my happiness when full out cheaters are sent to the back of the line.

 

[bavaria]

Personally, your attitude disgusts me. It's this kind of milquetoast attitude that feels sorry for the offender that causes murders, rapists and child molesters get paroled before their debt to society has been paid. Don't feel sorry for the person breaking the rules set forth, feel sorry for the person that is getting the screw put to them because of the rule offender. Why do people misplace their sympathy?!?



Bavaria wins the "Well, I had this happen to me before because I have a legitimate disability, so it may have happened to all these other's" award.

Note. . .a disability usually notes that you are a rare exception, and when people blatently break the rules, it's usually not because of a disability. I get so fed up with people making a million excuses for people acting like pieces of crap. Sometimes a piece of crap is just a piece of crap and we should all be relieved when it gets shoveled into the manure pile.

I'm really confused at your response. I am not advocating FP queue jumping. Nor did I jump a FP queue. I didn't make excuses for people breaking the rules.

I am more than a little confused as to what sort of 'award' I won... perhaps you could clarify.

I simply pointed out that I was heckled and jeered at in a FP line, while trying to leave, by guests who were a little overenthusiastic about roasting what they believed to be a FP jumper.

Frankly, I don't really pay that much attention to who does and doesn't have a FP in line.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

This is ridiculous!!!

1) There is satisfaction in seeing cheaters get what they deserve. This is not a lie.

2) So are 500 other families at the park.
. . .So are 500 other families at the park.
. . .So are 500 other families at the park.
. . .So are 500 other families at the park.
. . .So are 500 other families at the park.
. . .So are 500 other families at the park.
. . .So are 500 other families at the park.

Nuff said.

Pssst. Turn on your snark detecter and read the post you just slammed again. The poster is actually glad along with you in the cheaters getting what they deserve.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

I'm glad they're catching people at WDW (not innocent mistake people). Last year, my first time at Disneyland, on the day of the opening of the Jack-Skellington-decorated Haunted Mansion, the CM taking the tickets before entering the stretch room was NOT taking the tickets (new?). There were hundreds of people in line and once a bunch of teenagers caught on to that fact, groups of 20-30 teenagers began going beneath the ropes into the FastPass line (at a point past the original FastPass CM). I would say at least 150-200 people did this within 5-10 minutes. It was extremely frustrating, especially when families with little kids began doing this (presumably from frustration in watching the 100 teenagers pass them, but ). FINALLY, the CM realized that 150 or so people wouldn't have returned for FastPass all at one time!!

Gosh, it would be incredibly frustrating if this became a problem at WDW

For some reason, the folks at DLR never really embraced Fastpass. The system is implemented very poorly from too many machines not being connected to the system, the wrong rides being placed on the system vs some that should be on it not being on it, to the mix ratio at the rides to the lapses in checking for them you described. I belive they want it to fail miserably out there.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

Back to OP's point -- as we learn on these boards, do have a little patience since sometimes what you see isn't always what you think it is....

Last December, just as we were about to enter the regular line for Jungle Cruise, I went to snap a quick photo of DH and DS in front of the big poster/ride sign at the entrance (we love this ride). The CM out front, who was checking people's fast passes befor allowing them to enter the FP queue, told me to give him my camera so I could be in the picture too -- a lovely gesture that we really appreciated. By the time this transpired, a whole truck-load (or so it seemed!) of people had gotten into the regular line. The CM said -- hey, it was my idea that held you up, so please be my guest in the FP line. We were hesitant but he insisted -- he said, just tell the CM collecting the FPs at the end that I told you to go through. We did it, but I was mortified -- especially at the point when I had to explain to the CM at the end why we were in the FP line without FPs. The CM was totally fine about it, but we felt very sheepish and I'm sure there were people who thought we were jerks who'd tried to pull a "fast" one.

SO, things aren't always what they seem----

Usually, they'll give you a slip of paper or a paddle. That CM almost caused you some embarassment that would have been none of your doing.

 

[SueM in MN]

I don't doubt that you might have run across this at times, but I have been riding the Disney buses since there WERE Disney buses, and have yet to need to show an ID, now or then.

I do remember back when it was SAID that you need to show one (and we were always "ready"), but we have never needed to do so.

BTW, Disney transportation is available to all guests, included with resort stays, and/or simply park admission tickets.

We have been coming to WDW at least once a year since 1986 and stayed on site since the year CBR opened. We do remember needing to show our ID to get on the bus to get back to CBR. There was a time period when people were parking in the resort lots and then taking the buses to MK to save money on parking (especially after CBR and PO opened up). The 'show your resort ID' was to avoid people doing that and, believe me, we did need to show our ID or you did not get on the bus (I stood and waited enough times behind people who did not have it out and were not let on without it to know it was required and not just 'be ready').
I'm not sure when they added the 'guard houses' and gates to enter the resort parking lots, but once they added those, then it got to be 'you may be asked to show your ID'. We have occasionally been asked for ID after that, but it's just been occasional.

 

[katerkat]

FP was well-researched by Disney and the "loopholes" patched even before it was publicly announced.

No way! I was working there the summer it was implemented and they were patching loopholes as people found them. I remember one guy was sent to the park an hour before his family to gather FPs for everyone for every attraction it was available. Shortly afterward, only activated park passes (ie, people IN the park) could be used, and then the one-FP-at-a-time rule was started. Granted, I think they did a great job fixing up the loopholes as they appeared, but the system was nowhere near perfect when it started.

 

[SueM in MN]

No way! I was working there the summer it was implemented and they were patching loopholes as people found them. I remember one guy was sent to the park an hour before his family to gather FPs for everyone for every attraction it was available. Shortly afterward, only activated park passes (ie, people IN the park) could be used, and then the one-FP-at-a-time rule was started. Granted, I think they did a great job fixing up the loopholes as they appeared, but the system was nowhere near perfect when it started.

There were lots of loopholes that got patched as they came up (some of them were posted as 'hints' on this forum and for a while Moderators were deleting them over and over again.)
I'm not sure, but think Robo might have been posting a sarcastic reply????

 

[Cass]

Glad they were caught, shamed and sent to the back of the line. I would have applauded the CM

 

[NC State]

I have a student in my office she told me that her boyfriends' mother will collect as many FP and what she doesn't use she will use again in a future visit. Future visit like a year from now. I was just shocked, "how can she do that"..this is the same person that told me that they lied about why they need a refrg too.