F.C.U.K. shirts BANNED from WDW

[disneychrista]

Why anyone pays so much attention to other peoples butts is beyond me.

Well if you have a "billboard" accross it how can someone NOT pay attention to it??

As for some of the things that they have on the short (as described above) IMO are just as offensive on a tee shirt as they are plastered on someones rear.

 

[nkjzmom]

As I was thinking about posting or not I came to the conclusion that there would be three reactions to this acronym... 1)those who look but don't care, 2)those who look and enjoy what they're looking at (if you catch my drift, GROSS), and 3)those (like me and my family) that notice it and don't want that stuck in our heads all day...just like the paragraph that Eagle posted. We're smart people.

So for the people who wear these products, obviously they don't mind the first group, they may not mind the second group (GROSS), and maybe they don't care about the third group. I wish they would. Thanks to those of you who do care.

 

[tracy51]

I have to admit that I've chuckled at some shirts that others would find offensive. That being said, I've never bought them and admit to being a bit shocked when I see a young (14 yrs or below) boy wearing one of them. My first thought is "Do his parents realize what he's wearing & what it means/conveys?" If I saw one of the F.C. shirts, I would probably to a double take but don't think I'd be offended, even if my 10yrd DD were with me. I've seen a lot worse. However, I do applaud Disney for recognizing that these shirts offend many and are working to maintain the family freindly atmosphere in the parks. Hopefully they will carry it on to other offensive shirts. Not everyone agrees on what is offensive and what children should be prevented from being exposed to, but I see no harm in something as minor as a certain type of t-shirt ban being a major issue. It's a fine line Disney has to walk between protecting the families atmosphere and respecting the rights of non-families who visit. That's why I doubt the extreme suppression of expressing yourself with clothing will ever happen - Disney knows that could cost them money.

As far as the shorts with words on the back, my 10 yr old knows that those shorts are not to be worn outside the house no matter what the words. Period. Doesn't matter if it's "Cheer" or "This space for rent" or something supporting her school. I don't like how any words draw attention to the wearers behind. Although I can agree with the reasoning that not all of it is evil. But that's not why all of them are banned. The complete ban is to prevent any debate on which phrases would be deemed acceptable later. No debates on innuendos. No debates on what the message may convery. And certainly no arguement of why I'll let her wear something with this word but not that word even though its a "perfectly innocent word, its just someone else's dirty mind". I know there will be enough of those power struggles later and we are just nipping this one now. And the ban extends to any tshirt that draw attention to specific areas on the front too.

 

[GEM]

I'm another one who hates the writing on the shorts and pants - even if it says something innocent like "princess" or "dance" or "cheer" or whatever. And, yes I do feel they are totally different than t-shirts that have writing on the front. Here's why -

Lots of people, from newborns to 80 year old men, wear t-shirts with logos, slogans, designs, or pictures on the front. They come in all shapes, sizes, styles, etc. and are marketed to and worn by pretty much all members of society.

Those shorts and pants with writing on them are marketed to and worn by one group only - young girls. I've never seen a 10 year old boy, a middle aged woman, or an elderly person wearing them - only young girls. (I've never seen any women over 21 or so wearing those things, and I'm only 30, so it's not like I'm totally over the hill.)

To me, that proves that those kind of shorts, etc. are not at all about the word or whatever is printed there. They're about the rear end that is wearing them. After all, if that weren't the case, you'd see all sort of people wearing them. Nike would make men's sweat pants and gym shorts with "Nike" on the back. My 250 pound Aunt Sue would have no trouble finding shorts in size XXL with "LSU" on the butt. That's not the case, though. To me, that makes it all about the body part and not about whatever is printed there.

Obviously the only point of those shorts is to show off and attract attention to that particular part and that is why they are only made for and marketed to the group most likely to have anything worth showing off. I personally find that a bit disturbing, so I would never buy them for a daughter of mind and I hate seeing my students wearing them.

 

[Becky2005]

Schmeck - would those same things be appropriate if they were on a young girl's chest instead? I don't see a big difference between them and never thought of "cheering" someone's rear! My son is a gymnast (I have 3 boys so these shorts haven't been an issue) and when he was younger wanted one like the girls in his class that said "tumble". I explained they were for girls. They also had the cheer ones. I guess I just figured it was because most of the time the girls were in leotards so this was somewhere to show they were gymnasts - similar to a t-shirt. I never found them offensive.

I have to agree with this one! My DD *IS* a gymnast and in the annual local parade, they are basically given their uniforms to wear and one year it was shorts that say "TUMBLE" on the rear. I *personally* don't like these shorts so she doesn't wear them out in public (and can someone PLEASE tell me what the deal is with folding the waistband down? I can't figure that out at all because it then makes the shorts, short-shorts on her! LOL!!!). They give these out in raffles, etc... at meets too. I only allow DD to wear them over her leo at gymanstics (or of course, if it's the required uniform for their performance). But they also have hand print ones that say "Got Chalk" - of course, if your not a gymnast that might not make any sense! LOL!

 

[Schmeck]

Having a daughter that competed for 6 yrs, I know the 'got chalk' - and if I saw handprints on someone's butt with the words 'got chalk' over them, I'd think that was lewd too. It symbolizes someone's hands on someone's butt.

 

[Mom of Sleepy Bashful and BabyDoc]

Way to go Disney!!

I respect them so much for holding true to their values.

Just when I thought I couldn't love Disney anymore than I already do...

So much good stuff on this thread, but this one tickled my fancy.

 

[crazee4mickey]

I'm so glad to see WDW sticking to some of their old fashioned values. The thing that got us on our first trip this past December was the serving of alcohol--don't get me wrong, we're not prudes- we like to go out and have a good time too-but as with alcohol, sayings on clothing(shirts,shorts, pants), etc. there is an appropriate time for everything and IMHO, WDW is a family oriented theme park and this is not the time nor the place!

 

[GEM]

I'm so glad to see WDW sticking to some of their old fashioned values. The thing that got us on our first trip this past December was the serving of alcohol--don't get me wrong, we're not prudes- we like to go out and have a good time too-but as with alcohol, sayings on clothing(shirts,shorts, pants), etc. there is an appropriate time for everything and IMHO, WDW is a family oriented theme park and this is not the time nor the place!

OK. Now you've gone too far! If I can't have my Fiesta Margarita, I just don't see the point in going. So, I think WDW is very much the time and the place . . . and I'm traveling with a family.



Besides, Disney can't market itself as a huge honeymoon destination and not serve alchohol anywhere. (By the way, did you know that there is no alcohol in the Magic Kingdom?)

 

[crazee4mickey]

MMM! margaritas ..yes I knew there was no alcohol at Magic Kingdom --I'm just saying that when you target a market such as families to come to your park-I just don't see where alcohol is a necessity. While at Fantasmic with our family, my husband and I were able to sit through Fantasmic without a beer, why can't the people around us! Call me stupid as I may be way off on this but I honestly thought that was why Disney thought of Downtown Disney-a place where adults can go to enjoy a good time but still experience Disney!
Like I said I'm not a prude but I was surprised by this... Anyways, back to the topic.....I am just happy Disney has shown that they still have some old fashioned values pretaining to families and what children are exposed to by banning the F.C.U.K., that's all.

 

[SnowBound]

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Whoh! That was AWESOME! Excellent point, Eagle!

 

[Beth E. (NJ)]

I love all the differing opinions on the DIS! I'm not a fan of the French Connection logo and I don't have a problem if Disney wants to ban it. Hey, if Disney only wants to allow Disney logo shirts in the park I probably have enough to wear for a couple of week long trip! As for the message shorts -- my dd (age 9) has 2 pairs. One says "soccer" and the other says "cheer" they are not tight at all. She likes them because they are very comfortable.

Please keep in mind that having different opinions is great, but if this post disintegrated into any personal attacks the webmasters will be forced to close it down. Thanks for sticking to the rules.

 

[GEM]

While at Fantasmic with our family, my husband and I were able to sit through Fantasmic without a beer, why can't the people around us!

Yeah, but why should they have to? What's wrong with them having a beer while they sit there? I mean, if they are drunk and acting like idiots, then I see the problem. If they're just sitting there at Fantasmic drinking a beer or walking around World Showcase drinking a margarita, what on earth is wrong with that? I don't see why family =s no alcohol. I mean, it's not like they're serving it to the little ones in the Kid's Club.

And, yes, I know this is way off topic. Sincere apologies to the OP! The baby is asleep, the laundry is folded, and I have nothing better to do on a rainy night. But I PROMISE this was my last post on this thread. It really has been interesting to see all the different opinions.

 

[disneychrista]

(and can someone PLEASE tell me what the deal is with folding the waistband down? I can't figure that out at all because it then makes the shorts, short-shorts on her! LOL!!!).

I think that IS the point. I mean what is the point if you aren't showing off you butt checks and nearly your pubic area? I mean no offense to anyone with this but this is what I see as the reason to roll the waistband. To see how short they can make the shorts and how low they can make the waistband.

 

[crazee4mickey]

Yeah, but why should they have to? What's wrong with them having a beer while they sit there? I mean, if they are drunk and acting like idiots, then I see the problem. If they're just sitting there at Fantasmic drinking a beer or walking around World Showcase drinking a margarita, what on earth is wrong with that? I don't see why family =s no alcohol. I mean, it's not like they're serving it to the little ones in the Kid's Club.

And, yes, I know this is way off topic. Sincere apologies to the OP! The baby is asleep, the laundry is folded, and I have nothing better to do on a rainy night. But I PROMISE this was my last post on this thread. It really has been interesting to see all the different opinions.

Okay, you're entitled to your opinion as am I.
My point, once again, was about how WE felt and that the values and visions we have all heard that Walt Disney had envisioned for his dream and that lately these seemed to be "going by the wayside" so I am pleased to see that those working at WDW notice the effect some negative things--like inappropriate t-shirt sayings--have on other's. Nothing more, nothing less!

 

[Swimnoid]

Mu DD brought home a FC shirt when she visited England this summer. The shame of it is that its a really pretty shirt except for those letters and she can't wear it anywhere because of them! What a waste

 

[disneychrista]

The thing that got us on our first trip this past December was the serving of alcohol...WDW is a family oriented theme park and this is not the time nor the place!

I agree with you on this. I do not feel that a family theme park is the place for alcohol. I personally see no need to consume alcohol to have a good time. I have never consumed alcohol while at Disney (on either coast) and I don't see me doing it in the future.

But I do see a difference between a shirt / shorts that have messages and another individual having a drink. In the first I am subject to that message whether I want to be or not. In the second as long as the person is being responsible and not drunk then their behavior has little effect on my experience.

 

[ujpest_doza]

When the Tee-Shirts first appeared in the UK about 8/10 years ago they were a bit of a gimic to revive the fortunes of a flagging clothes firm.
They worked wonders and the company boomed.

They have subsequently become a lame joke and have tried to be more and more shocking with the slogans.They aren't funny anymore and it is obvious what the slogans are implying.

To be honest, the popularity is actually on the wane in the UK and French Connection is now seen as being a bit "naff" and outdated.

I have no problem with Disney banning people from wearing them as at 1st glance they do look offensive and as they are not as big a name in the US people would look at them more than they do in the UK where they are now so common that they now do not get a second glance and the shock value has gone.
After all, Disney is private property and has a dress code just like pubs and clubs in England have dress codes.

Moving onto to the subject of Alchoholic Beverages being served in Walt Disney World. Strange one really, as in the US you see beer being served in fast food restaurants whereas in the UK you do not. Save for the obvious dehydration occuring when drinking alcohol in the severe heat and humidity and the fact that you have to drive everywhere, can some people NOT enjoy a day out with their family without having a beer?

There is a time and a place for having a beer ( i should know i like a good skinful of beer when out on the town with my wife or friends) and as far as i'm concerned that time is not when in a family orientated theme park with my wife and daughter. Couple of drinks by the pool or with dinner when i am back at my villa relaxing after a day at the parks yes. But while at the parks, no.

 

[Ellay]

I think you should all get off your high horses, after all America is the sleaze capital of the world isn't it?

 

[Grendel]

I think you should all get off your high horses, after all America is the sleaze capital of the world isn't it?

was their a point for this?...perhaps a cognitive thought or are you spousing some sort of moral superiority for your homeland?.....or do you have some sort of other agenda? just curious as its hard to discern any real intelligent opinion from this. I disagree with many things posted on these boards and sometimes I voice those disagrements...but I am very greatful that a forum exists for people to express them. I guess if I wanted to reply in kind to your well thought out posting I could suggest that since WDW is in America...and this forum is in America....that its none of your concern...or should i go through a litany of your countries short comings? But that would be childish and solve nothing. I hope others here will not let their voices be quieted on thier opinions on this or any issue...irregardless if I or anyone agrees with them.

btw...given the choice...ill take America..sleaze and all...