Explain to me how problems with MBs and FP+ could destroy your WDW trip?

[Angel Ariel]

So why attack me for attempting to provide advice?

I responded to you in the way you responded to me.

 

[Angel Ariel]

That may be how you read it, but not how I wrote it

Apparently I'm not alone in how it came across. And you will notice, I specifically did *not* say *you* were condescending. I said the post came across that way, intentionally.leaving room for the possibility you didn't intend it that way.

Nothing I said was meant, on my part, as a personal attack on you. Yet, regardless of my saying that, it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't accept that.

Tone is hard to interpret on the internet. You have to be able to adapt to how others might interpret your posts.

 

[flicx]

I personally think it is a matter of "time". Disney with all these glitches is stealing precious(and expensive) time from it's customers. Too many hours at guest relations fixing glitches that should have been worked out by now. As much as a trip costs and as you break it down you only have so much time at the park. These glitches are stealing that precious time away! I can totally understand why some people (especially reading some of the horror stories in other threads) would say it ruined their trip. Some people save for years to make a trip happen. Then they spend a ton of time at concierge or guest relations and lose some of the best riding times of the day. Very frustrating!!!!

 

[Disneylover99]

What if every time you went to your room you couldn't get in? AFTER THE SECOND TIME I WOULD DEMAND A ROOM KEY (they are not FP compatible but are still issued upon request)

What if every time you went to a park you couldn't get in? AFTER THE FIRST TIME I WOULD DEMAND A PARK CARD (they are not FP compatible but still issued to walk up guests)

And what if after every ride you had to go spend 30-60 minutes with a CM trying to figure out why you can't change your FP+ reservation or you can but Joey's won't change with you all? DO NOT DEPEND ON FP+ APP TO CHANGE WHILE IN PARK

Or your dining reservations don't show up and you didn't write them down so you didn't know what times they were.
WRITE AND COPY DOWN ALL RESERVED MEALS AND FP+ OR TAKE PICTURE OF SCREEN CAPTURE

You make it sound oh so cut and dry easy to solve all these problems and yes, extremely condescending. As someone who has experienced many of these problems (and more), demanding something doesn't always work the way you would think. The cm's don't always want to give into your demands, they want to fix the problems.....which can lead to a lot of waiting.

 

[josiegracesmom]

I had clients there and every single day for 8 days they had problems. They paid over $8K for this trip, and it started as soon as they arrived. The bands wouldn't work to go into the rooms, so they had to go get back in line (they had waited over an hour to check in because of all the other people having issues) to have them fixed. They were in line for 3 hours total day of check in. Then, had to go back 2 times after check in to have the bands fixed again just to get in the room. Then, when they got to the park (they missed their first day dining reservation and was initially charged the $10 pp till I called and threw a fit), none of the fast passes were loaded. Then, we had to try to get them into a restaurant for dinner... no availability except at places they wouldn't want to eat. Then, when they got back to the hotel, the bands didn't work AGAIN... so back to the front desk.

The next day, the bands wouldn't work for meals, for fast passes or to let them in the park. So they had to go to guest services and stand in line for over an hour, then they couldn't get fast passes to the rides they wanted. Then, it wouldn't let them in the room again.

This happened every single day to them. So out of every day, they had a minimum of 3 hours trying to get everything fixed. Plus all the times he had to call me. I talked to him no less than 5 times a day, then all the calls I had to make to Disney.

I am not exaggerating at all. I wrote Disney a letter upon their return with everything documented (it was over 5 pages) and Disney did give a lot of money back, plus hoppers for the future. BUT, some people are over dramatic and if they have to wait 5 minutes it ruins their trips. These poor people were put through the ringer. So, yes, it ruined their trip.

 

[MaryKatesMom]

Others do. Don't assume that all guests have the same wants and needs. If a child had her heart set on meeting A&E and the family showed up only to find that their FP had been wiped and their one and only day at the MK now entailed a 4 hour wait in a SB line, that could be considered ruinous to some. You apparently go with the flow. That's fine. But not all guests' expectations are the same.

Here is something to keep in mind. When a person posts here that their trip was flawless and they had a great time, no one has any reasoned basis to question their experience or conclusion. But likewise, when someone posts here that some snafu ruined their day or their vacation, no one has any reasoned basis to challenge that conclusion either. Calling someone a liar or accusing them of being overly dramatic is just as wrong in one direction as challenging a person who says they had a great time is in the other direction. Just because you wouldn't have been put off by a bad break doesn't mean that every other person should feel the same way.

Thank you.

There have been complaints about rushing to certain rides too which ruined their overall park experience because they are on opposite ends of the park. What they don't realize is you can easily change the times and/or locations to make it easier. There are obvious user errors that can be avoided but instead people choose to complain about it. The major issues are truly unavoidable but there have been plenty of posts about minor problems as well.

Easily change times and locations, some things yes, but my experience was not like that. I'm not sure what "user errors" your talking about.

And if I want to complain about something I will. I complained long and hard here, elsewhere and to WDW themselves about RD at DHS. When TSMM first opened it was an actual RD with a lot of pushing, shoving and running. It was ugly and guess what, they changed it for the better. No opening show and CM's walk you to the attractions. I will take full credit for that thank you!

Even that did not ruin my trip, but it took awhile to go back to DHS.

But has MM+ and FP+ ruined WDW no, but if I'm spending more time at the pool or waterparks I need to rethink the value in that vacation. If it continues to feel oversheduled, hard to plan and 3 attractions then out I can do other things with my vacation dollar.

 

[JanaDee]

Thanks! (actually my only intent was to share some advice and suggestions, which apparently some posters appreciated and agreed with, and others would rather just continue to rant and complain and not contribute to a meaningful discussion around the topic of trip planning and avoiding the potential pitfalls of FP+ and MBs where and when possible - but please continue with your helpful contributions to the discussion here)

Your intent was to be dismissive and condescending to anyone that has been frustrated or upset by things that SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING ON THEIR VACATION.

We get it, you are better than anyone else and can let every thing roll off your back, regardless of the severity and how it impacts your vacation. You're happy to spend $100 a day just to walk around the park and look at things.

You're far more evolved than us peons who actually want to ride the attractions we paid for.

 

[babydoll65]

I had clients there and every single day for 8 days they had problems. They paid over $8K for this trip, and it started as soon as they arrived. The bands wouldn't work to go into the rooms, so they had to go get back in line (they had waited over an hour to check in because of all the other people having issues) to have them fixed. They were in line for 3 hours total day of check in. Then, had to go back 2 times after check in to have the bands fixed again just to get in the room. Then, when they got to the park (they missed their first day dining reservation and was initially charged the $10 pp till I called and threw a fit), none of the fast passes were loaded. Then, we had to try to get them into a restaurant for dinner... no availability except at places they wouldn't want to eat. Then, when they got back to the hotel, the bands didn't work AGAIN... so back to the front desk.

The next day, the bands wouldn't work for meals, for fast passes or to let them in the park. So they had to go to guest services and stand in line for over an hour, then they couldn't get fast passes to the rides they wanted. Then, it wouldn't let them in the room again.

This happened every single day to them. So out of every day, they had a minimum of 3 hours trying to get everything fixed. Plus all the times he had to call me. I talked to him no less than 5 times a day, then all the calls I had to make to Disney.

I am not exaggerating at all. I wrote Disney a letter upon their return with everything documented (it was over 5 pages) and Disney did give a lot of money back, plus hoppers for the future. BUT, some people are over dramatic and if they have to wait 5 minutes it ruins their trips. These poor people were put through the ringer. So, yes, it ruined their trip.

You are a wonderful ta. But I am sure you are not the only one who has written to Disney about these issues. Before mbs I don't think I ever had to speak to anyone in guest relations nor have I ever saw a line in front of one. Our last trip in November, the average wait time at gr was an hour to an hour and a half. I am glad to say we had no problems with the magic bands when we went but saw many frustrated families with multiple issues. And though maybe it was out of there control Disney has enough resources to get it under control.

 

[Jennasis]

Your intent was to be dismissive and condescending to anyone that has been frustrated or upset by things that SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING ON THEIR VACATION.

We get it, you are better than anyone else and can let every thing roll off your back, regardless of the severity and how it impacts your vacation. You're happy to spend $100 a day just to walk around the park and look at things.

You're far more evolved than us peons who actually want to ride the attractions we paid for.

Snap.

 

[mom2rtk]

We get it, you are better than anyone else and can let every thing roll off your back, regardless of the severity and how it impacts your vacation. You're happy to spend $100 a day just to walk around the park and look at things.

That's way too high a cover charge for my taste.

 

[Mommy2Corinne]

Your intent was to be dismissive and condescending to anyone that has been frustrated or upset by things that SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING ON THEIR VACATION.

We get it, you are better than anyone else and can let every thing roll off your back, regardless of the severity and how it impacts your vacation. You're happy to spend $100 a day just to walk around the park and look at things.

You're far more evolved than us peons who actually want to ride the attractions we paid for.

LOL! I can't believe that people are still posting questions like the OP's. Good grief.

I took a break from the FP+ discussion for a few months (I had made my ADRs and picked park days), but now I am only a few days out from picking FP+ at our 60 day mark so I am checking back in. It's nice to see that nothing has changed.

 

[JimmyV]

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=3298426

Game. Set. And Match. Anyone want to say that they would "go with the flow" set out here? If so, the flow you are going with is swirling you down the basin.

 

[Mkrop]

Your intent was to be dismissive and condescending to anyone that has been frustrated or upset by things that SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING ON THEIR VACATION.

We get it, you are better than anyone else and can let every thing roll off your back, regardless of the severity and how it impacts your vacation. You're happy to spend $100 a day just to walk around the park and look at things.

You're far more evolved than us peons who actually want to ride the attractions we paid for.

OP do you allow any other company to not provide you what you paid for.

And we hated WDW before FPs, we swore we would never go back, we did bc at the time we had a 4yr old and we read about FP and bc of FP we went back, and went back, got hooked and bought DVC. So I dont want anyone really messing with our FPs if possible.

 

[omurice]

To OP - We're all different. Explained.