Everything Early Theme Park Entry (ETPE) - Please Read Post 1

Yes she has already purchased her tickets and Disney helped me link her to our park reservations and dining reservations. They also added her as my friends and family so I can make plans for her with us even though she's not on the reservation and in MDE it does show her with our park passes for the first 6 days then day 7 it's just me and my husband and our daughters so it worked that way and no issues to add her to our park reservations or dining for those 6 days. She just won't have access to the room without us unless we send a magic band with her. I'm not sure if she's willing to pay the 80$ so we might have to wait until check in or just do without those early mornings with her. thank you for your help!
I don’t know whether this is possible, but maybe you could convert your package into a “ticketless package” which is basically a room only but retains the package payment and cancellation terms. You could add her to the package at that point. Then buy 10 day tickets for yourselves.
 
I think you will have better luck with Early Entry and no luck with ILL$. Early Entry has a CM in the loop so a simple "How many in your party?" and she's in. ILL$ is fully computerized, so there is no way around that.
 
I think you will have better luck with Early Entry and no luck with ILL$. Early Entry has a CM in the loop so a simple "How many in your party?" and she's in. ILL$ is fully computerized, so there is no way around that.
Have you been to the parks recently? I believe MK is allowing all guests to enter the park early and dividing into resort/non-resort once inside. Are all the other parks doing the same or, are some parks holding non-resort guests outside the park until actual park opening time?
 
Have you been to the parks recently? I believe MK is allowing all guests to enter the park early and dividing into resort/non-resort once inside. Are all the other parks doing the same or, are some parks holding non-resort guests outside the park until actual park opening time?
I'm basing my opinion on a recent video where a vlogger entered a park EE (I don't remember which one) with his family. His family was staying on property, but he is local. His father exited the park to meet up with him and 'got him in' by tapping his band with the CM and answering "two" when asked how many in the party.

Whether inside or outside, at some point there is a on-property check, and it seems like in the past and certainly possibly now, they tap one guest and ask how many in the party instead of tapping every guest.
 
Greaaattttt. I wonder how long it will take before off-site people slip a few bucks to an on-site person to get early entry. The only real on-site benefit remaining.
 
My experience from Friday 12/3 at Magic Kingdom (7:30 Early Entry):

On Bus at POR - 6:37AM
At Entry Tapstiles - 6:56AM
Tapstiles OPEN - 7:15AM (only 15 mins before Early Entry)
---- Main Street shops and Main Street Bakery were open starting then too
---- Early Entry checkpoint was on the right side of the Hub near the Fireworks Party Area
Rope drop to Tomorrowland was right at 7:30AM
Space Mountain was still testing when we arrived... we were held up for about 10 minutes before being allowed to board... so that was all we fit in during Early Entry.
 
My experience from Sunday 12/5 at Hollywood Studios (8:30 Early Entry):

Took LYFT from POR - 7:11AM-7:21AM
Held near exit of Skyliner - 7:26-7:32AM (Skyliner did NOT have people disembarking at this time)
---- We were about 20 people back in line
Tapstiles OPEN - 7:33AM
We were held at the entrance to Galaxy's Edge at 7:38AM
---- We were about 30 people back in line
---- Cast members did not ask people to stop running, so several people passed us
Cast members led a SLOOOOOOOW walk back to the Rise of the Resistance queue (7:45AM-7:51AM)
In line for RotR - 7:51AM
In preshow at 8:06AM (they continued the slow walk through the queue)
Off RotR - 8:26AM (before Early Entry technically started)
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster - 8:40AM (on ride in 3 mins) - 8:47AM
Twilight Zone Tower of Terror - 8:48AM (on ride in 5 mins - no preshow) - 8:58AM
Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway - 9:02AM( on ride in 25 mins) - 9:35AM
---- We were able to hustle and stay JUUUST ahead of the 9:00AM opening crowds.

An amazing Early Entry at DHS!
 
My experience from Monday 12/6 at Animal Kingdom (7:30 Early Entry):

Took LYFT from POR - 7:12AM-7:29AM
At Entry Tapstiles - 7:32 AM (already OPEN)
---- We had an Individual LL for Avatar Flight of Passage, so we went to the other rides for Early Entry
Dinosaur - 7:40AM (on ride in 5 min.) - 7:49AM
Expedition Everest - 7:54 AM (on ride in 3 mins) - 8:01 AM
Expedition Everest - 8:01 AM (on ride in 2 mins) - 8:08 AM
---- crowds hadn't arrived yet so this 2nd ride was still kind of an Early Entry perk
 
Yes she has already purchased her tickets and Disney helped me link her to our park reservations and dining reservations. They also added her as my friends and family so I can make plans for her with us even though she's not on the reservation and in MDE it does show her with our park passes for the first 6 days then day 7 it's just me and my husband and our daughters so it worked that way and no issues to add her to our park reservations or dining for those 6 days. She just won't have access to the room without us unless we send a magic band with her. I'm not sure if she's willing to pay the 80$ so we might have to wait until check in or just do without those early mornings with her. thank you for your help!
I don’t know whether this is possible, but maybe you could convert your package into a “ticketless package” which is basically a room only but retains the package payment and cancellation terms. You could add her to the package at that point. Then buy 10 day tickets for yourselves.
Was going to suggest this same thing if it’s possible (converting your package to a ticketless package). If it is, I’d even suggest going through a third party ticket broker to get those 10 day tickets…you’ll save a decent amount of money which would offset any costs of your mom being added to the room, plus some, and your tickets would all still be able to be linked together.
 
For those of you who have been recently or just returned can you share alternate Uber drop off points for those who wish to get an early start not waiting on Disney transportation? I know it may vary but has anyone had recent luck being able to be dropped off at CR and walk to MK? Easiest walk to IG at Epcot. Thanks so much!!

Swan and Dolphin don’t have guard booths at the entrances so you could get dropped off there for Epcot or DHS. At Disney owned resorts you would need an ADR.
 
This is great information!! I was planning the same strategy except going to start at MFSR1st and then paid LL for RotR. how was the wait for MMSR
We did Smugglers first thing during Thanksgiving week. Rise opened before 8am, but Smuggler's didn't open until a little after 8am. We were the first people in line. We were really close to the front of the Galaxies Edge line. By the time the ride started, more people had shown up. We were still able to get off and get right back in line with minimal wait. This was for a 9am regular opening, 8:30am technically for early entry.
 
I'm really torn about my Early Entry plan for DHS this Saturday. Right now, I'm thinking of getting my first G+LL for MFSR, hopefully early afternoon. And purchasing ILL$ for RotR, hopefully for the mid-afternoon, and MMRR for late morning. Rope drop SDD at early entry, and then do RnRC, ToT, and TSMM before the rides get too bad. Then use my MMRR ILL$. This has the advantage of allowing us a sustained block of time in Galaxy's Edge: Lunch at Docking Bay 7, then the two rides by LL, interspersed with shopping and exploring, before our Oga's reservation at 4:00. Then try to stack some G+LLs for after our time in Oga's.

But what's throwing me for a loop is that, according to many reports here, they let Early Entry people into the Galaxy's Edge rides at 8:00, but don't let people into the Toy Story Land rides until 8:30. If we go to Galaxy's Edge instead of Toy Story Land at early entry, we could be done with RotR (without paying) and MFSR (without using a G+LL and thereby not being able to book another one for a long time) all by around 8:40 or 8:45. That then frees up more LL slots, saves ILL$ money, and allows us to get more rides done throughout the day. But I was really looking forward to that immersive block of time in Galaxy's Edge . . . .

Decisions, decisions!
 
But what's throwing me for a loop is that, according to many reports here, they let Early Entry people into the Galaxy's Edge rides at 8:00, but don't let people into the Toy Story Land rides until 8:30. If we go to Galaxy's Edge instead of Toy Story Land at early entry, we could be done with RotR (without paying) and MFSR (without using a G+LL and thereby not being able to book another one for a long time) all by around 8:40 or 8:45. That then frees up more LL slots, saves ILL$ money, and allows us to get more rides done throughout the day. But I was really looking forward to that immersive block of time in Galaxy's Edge . . . .

Decisions, decisions!

This is what I've been contemplating too. If we can get on and off ROTR before 8:30 and then head over to MMRR or TSM even that would save a ton of time. We'll likely decide based on what time we get into DHS.
 
Can anyone let me know if there’s a dedicated AP entrance into MK for Early Entry? When we were there at the beginning of November, the lines towards the right with people coming from the buses was so backed up you couldn’t get over to the other lines
 
Experience today, 12/14/21, at DHS. My sister and I are staying at AKL. I didn't note exact times, but here's the rundown:

7am: Made ILL$ for RotR for 11:15 am. I got this on my Android phone using WiFi. Sister, on her iPhone also on WiFi, didn't even have the ILL$ available yet by the time I'd purchased it.

7+am: Made G+ for MFSR at 3:40 pm--later than we wanted, but what the heck. We had an ADR at MM for 12:50.

7:30-ish: Left room and got Uber to DHS.

Arrived at DHS maybe 7:45? MBs scanned to make sure we were resort guests. Restroom break, then walked to MMRR.

Waited in line at MMRR and watched as the line got longer and longer, so our hopes of turning around and riding again were dashed. Held in line until official ETPE opening. Line kept moving after that.

It was fun to see the MMRR preshow, which we'd never seen. We were off MMRR at 8:58 am (that time I did note) and since it was too early to make another G+ we looked at the tip board. TSM was listed as 5 minutes, so we headed over there.

By the time we got to TSM the listed wait time was 35 minutes. Actual wait was 20 minutes.

We got off TSM and it was too early to make another G+ so we wandered back to SWGE, thinking we'd shop and check out MFSR, which at that point had a posted wait of 40 minutes. By the time we got there the wait was 85 minutes . . . and . . . RotR was down.

But it was too early for our ILL$ on RotR anyway.

We walked on to the Mickey and Minnie vacation movie, refreshed the heck out of our G+s. RotR was still down and TSM had no G+ available until early evening, too late for us.

12:50 ADR at MM. Restaurant was crowded and a lot of the staff was pretty new, including our server, who was extremely nice, so we cut her all the slack in the world.

While we were at lunch, RotR came back up, so we went right there after we were done eating. The LL looked long--not as long as the standby queue, which was epic--but it was only 15 minutes from the time we started standing in line until we were in the preshow. No spoilers here. Only one element of the attraction wasn't working properly, but most of it was great, and it's always a fun and amazing experience.

Afterward it was too early for our MFSR G+ so we did standby--posted 35 minute wait, actual was 60 minutes. We'd never done it before and won't be doing it again, but the inside portion of the queue itself is worth a look. For those of you who don't like motion simulators, you can skip this one.

At that point, probably around 4:45 there was a G+ for TSM at 5:15, which I grabbed, but by the time it was finalized, the G+ was for 6:55, not 5:15, so I canceled. We were whipped and ready to leave.

On my way out I stopped at a GET and talked with a great cast member. I really just wanted to relay how our day went--that we bought G+ and never used it for anything, that we spent a lot of time waiting for Rise despite having an ILL$, etc., and without my asking--and I wasn't expecting it at all--the CM gave us both a refund of our G+ and a free G+ rez for immediate use at TSM.

Alas, we were too tired to avail ourselves of this nice gift and retuned to AKL, from where I'm now typing out this not-detailed-enough info.

We have another 2 days reserved at DHS and other than definitely doing ILL$ again for Rise, I'm not sure what we'll do.

As an aside, my sister and I both adore MMRR and I utterly despised TGMR, so I love what they've done with the space.

There are a lot of people in the parks. By 5 pm or so there were no G+s available at any of the parks for any ride that didn't also have only a 5- or 10-minute wait. I know because I looked, thinking at one point that we'd hop, particularly to Epcot if we could've gotten ILL$ for Remy. I guess it was sold out. Likewise HM and NRJ were unavailable on G+--two rides I might've considered hopping for.

We were at DAK yesterday (12/13) and used ILL$ for FoP and G+ for NRJ and KS. Although we did only those three upcharged attractions, we felt the expense was worth it since at least we go to do 3 things we really wanted without having to wait in long lines and at times that fit well into our schedule.

But getting those attractions and times to line up is very hit-or-miss, which is one of the most frustrating and annoying aspects of G+ and ILL$.

Genie itself is useless, at least to someone who knows their way around the WDW parks. G+ is not always intuitive, although after some trial and error, one eventually figures things out--if they're working at any given moment, which they may not be.

Both mornings when I bought G+ I was asked to log back in to my account. I've never had the "we're sending you a code" experience. Yet. Who knows what's to come.

My takeaway so far is that if they'd just started charging for FP+ and kept the same FP+ system in place, I wouldn't've been happy about it, but I would've used it, assuming they didn't charge, say, $100/day for it. As it is, it's annoying to try to do these things at 7am and then if you want to RD, dash out to get to your park.

Some other posters really seem to like the new system. So far, I am not too amused by it.

TL;DR: ILL$ for FoP and RotR are worth it. G+ was useless today at DHS, at least for the attractions we wanted it for. G+ may be difficult or impossible to fit into your desired schedule and most-wanted attractions are sold out by late afternoon, if not earlier.
 
I'm hoping someone here has first hand experience but it's sort of unique so I'm not sure! I have spoke to Disney (chat and on the phone) and they have told me that this isn't something they can do.

Me, hubby, and our 2 girls have 10 day park hopper tickets. My mom is staying with us in our room for the first 6 nights of our trip, but ONLY 6 nights. So she has a 6 day park hopper ticket. She is concerned about not having access to the room (magic band opening the door) without us and I am concerned that she will not be allowed to participate in the extra morning time. We did this exact thing in 2017 and she was able to access our room and have access to extra magic hours with us. Disney has told me I can add her as a "day guest" but she would not get the benefits of being a resort guest. People I have spoke to say to add her when we check in and she WILL have resort guest benefits and that the people at Disney I'm talking to are just generic customer service and won't know.

We're not trying to cheat the system at all, she doesn't put us over the room capacity and she literally won't be in FL after day 6 so we don't want her to bump up to the 10 day package we have just to get early entry to the parks. But we plan on utilizing the early entry ALOT and fear she will miss out on rides, or if we want to do LL$ we will have to wait until the park opens to purchase due to her not being a "resort guest". THANKS FOR ANY HELP! SORRY THIS WAS SO LONG.
Our experience was they only scanned one magic band for early entry. Just scan yours instead.
 
Does anyone have current experience rope dropping FoP at AK with EE? We rope dropped it very successfully in early June but this time I'm going with 4 adults and 4 young kids and it will be a crowd level 7! If you have done this successfully recently what time did you get to the park?
Was thinking half of us could be at the front of the rope drop line and the rest could join us once the line was formed... I've seen other groups do this in the past, are CMs allowing this?

Also here is my recent experience rope dropping MK and HS with early entry on Dec 11th and Dec 12th!

MK Dec 11th
Beach club bus came at 7:15
Off the bus at MK and first 20 people in security line
7:45 10 back in turnstile (people from poly boat beat the bus line)
Front row at rope drop for Space, rope was dropped at 8:30 and we were lead by cast members to the queue. We were ten people back in the line and off the ride at 8:40. Just enough time to run to the bathroom, buy a quick Gaston’s cinnamon roll before heading over via the tangled bathroom route to join up with the regular entry rope drop at frontier land at 8:59. Took the sidewalk that goes along the water from HM and was able to bypass most of the regular entry guests that way (there was a cast member leading the way along this side route as well.) We were about 50 people back in the thunder line and off that by 9:15. Splash was still not running so we headed to pirates (posted 20, actual 15.) When we saw on app that splash opened (at 10) we headed right over, 10 min wait.

HS Dec 12th
We were in line for skyliner at pop at 6:50 and about 10 people back. skyliner started at 7:15 and then we were about 40 ppl back at transfer station. (Skyliner has two lines for boarding, pick the shorter one, usually the left.) Skyliner to hs started at 7:25.
Line to walk to rise started at 7:45 and forms just before the tunnel to GE. (The walk from the exit of Skyliner to GE is really where we were able to pass buckets of people because even though we were the fifth Skyliner to board all the people who walked or ubered over beat us. There was no line at the HS entrance at all, not at security nor at tap in, and there was an army of smiling cast members waving us in at 7:32.) At GE the walk over to the ROTR entrance was escorted and the ride started operating slightly before 8. We were off the ride at 8:15. Started walking to Hollywood boulevard and walked on to RRC. Went back to GE to ride MFSR, at 8:55, posted 20 actual 10.
 
















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