I definitely understand that. And I can totally understand pushback when there is medically verifiable evidence that the hospitals are faring well and resources aren't in danger of being stretched too thin. Here, we are just barely coming up to our peak and our hospitals are barely keeping up. But people here look to other parts of the country, and too-soft language from our state government, and find reasons to ignore or stretch the quarantining guidelines. Friends and family that work in multiple hospitals here are very worried about what the next couple of weeks bring.
I think you'd get pushback regardless because instead of treating the situation like it was in the beginning where if
only we reduce the burden on healthcare systems we can do this we can do this we can do this. Too many people latched onto that but IMO didn't see the potential ramifications of repeating "if only". Psychologically it helps us cope that part I understand.
I'm far more worried about my state and county (which is only just now ramping up who they test) lack of testing because orders in place and orders extended and orders modified without data aren't for the betterment of the citizens of each area as a whole..paying attention to how it's gone down it's mostly a game of domino effect..once one area does something it puts pressure on another area to do the same. The aspect of being able to look at each area differently is somewhat lost in part of that process especially with how some stay at home orders were formulated. It's easy to look at in my county for example that the rate of positives is increasing at a level above comfortability...yes well when you only tested for weeks those who were hospitalized you're bound to have an increase when you're widening who you test.
It is hard because different states have different needs. But unless we are going to put a halt on interstate travel for nonessential reasons (which would be nigh on impossible), someone from an area like mine where it's still running like wildfire could easily travel to an area like yours where it's under control and a week/ish ahead in the process, and start the bus rolling all over again. Planes are still flying and folks can still get in a car and drive across state lines.
I don't really know, but I do know that I'm trying to look at things from as high an overview as possible. There are still states where the peak isn't due to hit them for another 2 weeks...but with no measures to prevent travel from those yet-to-peak states, how do you prevent areas from being reinfected and creating a new surge? I can't see it being containable unless we hold off reopening until most of the country is in the clear.
These above two statements are part of what I mentioned a bit ago on another thread. Here's that quote:
"There are several different kinds of people out there right now but here's two kinds:
1) Those that will not accept that any presence of the virus is allowable
2) Those who accept that the virus will likely be around us (it's already strongly suggested it will be seasonal) and make decisions from there"
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Closing our borders as a country or screening those coming in or selectively baring citizens is one way but within our country itself by means of the highway and road system is not feasible nor truthfully practical nor does it guarantee the rate of spread doesn't occur IMO so I agree on your comment about it being basically impossible.
Are restrictions tightening because of what's going on inside the state, or what could be brought to the state from outside state lines?
This is part of maybe the different experiences around.
Where I live is a metro straddled between two states. Our metro for the most part is working together however the largest city in the metro independently extended the stay at home from April 24th to May 15th, I expect other counties around to do the same including mine but they aren't required to and haven't just quite yet. It's a fact of life here that you will cross city lines, you will likely cross state lines. We treat ourselves as 1 for the most part despite being in two different states.
However, the states have their own stay at home orders. My state as a whole is now May 3rd up from April 19th. The governor is trying to do what's best for the entire state, the local government (as in my county) is trying to do what's best for our own particular area (of which is in the area with high cases comparitively to the rest of the state).
There are talks of doing a regional collaboration with CO,KS and MO like the west coast and east coast have been doing. Those collaborations are taking into consideration economies and realistic aspects of borders. I do not anticipate them tracking down our license plates to pull us over if we are on the other side of the state line, most especially in my area where that's just plain unrealistic given how many people work and live on one side and work and live on the other side. But I do expect them looking into rate of new cases, testing protocols while keeping in mind the ramifications of it all if they end up doing that collaboration.
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I should say I'm not all for opening just like that it's not a light switch to me. I am quite concerned with the ideology of closures til the virus is gone for this wave we're in now especially if it's seasonal and we experience the virus habitually.
