Emo

[ohdisco]

There was a little talk in the random post about "emo", and I thought we could get everyone's opinion on "emo" music, and the culture surrounding it.

Well, there isn't real emo music anymore. We have alternative rock music. "Emo" evolved from Emocore, when the DC hardcore-punk scene started to fail. "Melodic rock with punk sensibilities" is what the DC sound evolved to, which created Emocore.

I disagree with what people are saying about people being "emo". For one thing, emo is short for emotional, which people can be. Fashion trends, and fads also revolve around "emo" music, and many, many other different genres of music.

I don't know, I use to relate heavily to the "emo" culture. I understand that there are a lot of white, suburbia kids who are into the "emo" culture, whom many people believe to have absolutely no problems. They have money, so what do they have to complain about? I am a white, suburbia kid. My family has money. Does that mean I don't understand sadness? Everyone who I've ever loved on any sort of level has either died or left me in a horrible mess. I've been sexually assaulted, beaten, and verbally abused by people who said they loved me. I have a physical disability which I know is going to progressively get worse. I know none of you knew that about me before hand, so if we had met when I was 15 (which is when I was into this whole "emo" thing), and you would've seen the cuts on my wrist, I'm sure you'd just have thought I was screaming for attention via cutting, correct? That I figured that emo=slitting wrists? That I didn't know what "bad" sadness was? But who are we to say what "bad" is in terms of sadness? I was in therapy for most of my teenage years, and I remember once in group therapy a cheerleader cried because someone threw a wrapped twinkie at her. At the time, I looked incredulously at her and thought, "Wow, she knows nothing of pain." Everyone handles things differently, and everyone's limits are different. Horrible emotional pain to her was obviously at a different level to me. I would've loved for wrapped twinkies to be my only problem, for what kids say at school to be the only thing I was having troubles with dealing with. Just because I feel that way, though, doesn't discredit her pain.

I dunno, I just feel that because emo is becoming a trend, people are bashing it just to seem "hip" or different. While I'm not in the emo scene anymore (I've evolved to the happier indie rock scene), I still feel empathy for people who relate to the scene.

 

[BabyPiglet]

I'm sorry you have to go through those things.

I try really hard not to judge, and that includes judging if people (who I don't know) have experienced pain in their lives.

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I agree with you on how people can be severely hurt by different things. I'm pretty sensitive, so something like a twinkie being throw at me would infact really hurt me. I can't imagine what something like being sexually abused would do to me.

 

[ohdisco]

I'm sorry you have to go through those things.

I try really hard not to judge, and that includes judging if people (who I don't know) have experienced pain in their lives.

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I agree with you on how people can be severely hurt by different things. I'm pretty sensitive, so something like a twinkie being throw at me would infact really hurt me. I can't imagine what something like being sexually abused would do to me.

I totally agree that it's hard not to judge people; When you say, "oh, that's a girl", you're judging, based on observation, that that person you're talking about is a girl. I've been surprised more than once with just that simple judgement. I just don't agree with people who assume that if you're dressed in black, have cuts on your arm, and talk about emo music that you're just trying to fit into the emo trend, and that you probably don't know anything about real pain.

When I look back, I'd probably be really upset if someone threw a twinkie at me in front of everyone while I was cheerleading.

With things such as sexual abuse, it's very difficult to move on from. I know I haven't fully healed from the experiences I've had, and I know that my reactions to what has happened have also had negative effects on my life (such as drinking crazy amounts of alcohol to block out the pain of being sexually, physically, and emotionally abused by someone who was supposed to love me, only to be cheated on (with a stripper AND a man), and left in the cold).

 

[princesskelz]

its a Type of Music Genre but some kids think its a Style i had a Gothic kid kill a few people in my City a few years ago and i take a grudge on them..... and some Gothic kids in my schooll wine too much but w/e its not MY chioce what everyone calls it

 

[Babyjustrun]

I don't like kids who dress emo on purpose because they think it's cool. Or call themselves emo because they think it's going to make them look awesome. Or cut for absolutely no reason. Simply because there are people out there who really are hurt, who really are scarred emotionally, and those posers make them look whiney.


I know this kid, he loves attention. And he's possibly the scariest guy I've ever met. He says he's emo and depressed and stuff, but I think he's really doing it to get a good reaction. He's written poems about wanting to kill my friend when she broke up with him..

Anyways, I'm just saying I don't like little girls in like grade 8 who dress in nothing but AE who think they're all hardcore because they listen to emo music about people cutting themselves.

Emo music, has gotten so off base lately. I used to love it, but now it's just.. pathetic?

 

[taz]

Sorry to hear you were abused in many ways

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

Half the time its just kids wanting attention.

It honestly bothers me.
Half the kids who are "Emo", don't even have depression.
Most of the people who WRITE emo style music don't even know what REAL depression is.


I don't have it that bad.
I got help though, I DID NOT resort to cutting my wrists, even though my parents and I never REALLY talk about anything, I just told them I have been having thoughts of suicide.


Honestly,
My parents told me that I didn't have depression and dismissed me. (later my mom came into my room and saw me asleep and woke me up gently and talked to me)
She still doesn't get it,
I still hurt on the inside, it wasn't like I was screaming for attention, but this whole "emo" thing


IS SICK.

I don't believe in any of it.
Not even the style of music.
There is no such thing as "Emo" to me.

If that makes sense.

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

If somebody threw a wrapped twinkie at me, I would thank them, and eat it!

 

[grumpygirl521]

i would probably get all depressed and cry than get angry and throw it bak at them with so much force that it hurts them!!!

(no i dont have anger problems!)

 

[Pirate Me]

I basically think that emo should be simply referring to the music genre. You can be emotional, but who shortened it to emo to confuse it? I just don't see it and when people call themselves emo, I think to myself that you can't be a music genre.

If somebody threw a wrapped twinkie at me, I would thank them, and eat it!

xD

 

[Babyjustrun]

I've been depressed a few times in my life. I could never cut myself, I just have a fear of cutting veins. I used to scratch though. Not too long ago, when I got sad, I'd start scratching my leg or my wrists unti they got reed.
The next day I'd have what looks like cut marks (going in the opposite direction of cutting). I'd just say it was my dog.

 

[ohdisco]

Half the time its just kids wanting attention.

It honestly bothers me.
Half the kids who are "Emo", don't even have depression.
Most of the people who WRITE emo style music don't even know what REAL depression is.


I don't have it that bad.
I got help though, I DID NOT resort to cutting my wrists, even though my parents and I never REALLY talk about anything, I just told them I have been having thoughts of suicide.


Honestly,
My parents told me that I didn't have depression and dismissed me. (later my mom came into my room and saw me asleep and woke me up gently and talked to me)
She still doesn't get it,
I still hurt on the inside, it wasn't like I was screaming for attention, but this whole "emo" thing


IS SICK.

I don't believe in any of it.
Not even the style of music.
There is no such thing as "Emo" to me.

If that makes sense.

But who are YOU to say that what they have isn't real depression? Until you know someone on a personal level, there's no way you can know the emotional pains people are actually going through.

 

[K-Shong99]

It seems like everyday someone comes up to me and says, "You're so emo."
I find it funny.
I'm not emo at all.
I ware skinny jeans because they make me"look good" and band shirts because I like music.
It's lame.
I don't get.
My friend and I even wrote an essay on how stupid these poser little emo kids running around the mall are.
They just want to be different and are trying to get attention.
They've ruined perfectly good bands [like Fall Out Boy, Paramore, and Boys Like Girls] and totally have made them sell out.
I sound stupid saying this, but it's true.
I am a very emotional person.
I have been depressed.
Counseling, the whole works.
But I have never ran around claiming to be emo to make myself feel better.
It's just to lame.
Sorry.
Don't get mad at me for that.

 

[princesskelz]

Half the time its just kids wanting attention.

It honestly bothers me.
Half the kids who are "Emo", don't even have depression.
Most of the people who WRITE emo style music don't even know what REAL depression is.


I don't have it that bad.
I got help though, I DID NOT resort to cutting my wrists, even though my parents and I never REALLY talk about anything, I just told them I have been having thoughts of suicide.


Honestly,
My parents told me that I didn't have depression and dismissed me. (later my mom came into my room and saw me asleep and woke me up gently and talked to me)
She still doesn't get it,
I still hurt on the inside, it wasn't like I was screaming for attention, but this whole "emo" thing


IS SICK.

I don't believe in any of it.
Not even the style of music.
There is no such thing as "Emo" to me.

If that makes sense.

Right on Sista
ITA with Mouse

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

But who are YOU to say that what they have isn't real depression? Until you know someone on a personal level, there's no way you can know the emotional pains people are actually going through.

I do know them on a personal level, infact they arent even sad. I mean of course sometimes they get sad, doesnt everyone? To me they are just people who walk around showing off their scars, pretending to "hide themselfs from the world", wearing black all over the place, wearing WAYYY to much eyeshadow...

Okay, so Im sure not ALL of them are like that, but seriously when you look at them at my school thats what it is, and I went to disney during "bat" weekend, and thats like emo basically (not really but a lot of "emos" were there) and it was crazy, I mean seriously what are emos doing at the happiest place on earth, if to them there is no such thing as happiness? That life is ALWAYS dull?
Seriously, If you are older then 30 and you decide you want to be emo, go right ahead, but seriously, i think most of "emo" people are insane.
Not mentally by law, but just crazy.


I just dont believe in that.

Right on Sista
ITA with Mouse

*wipes sweat from hands*

Phew!
I thought I was going insane or something!
Its always good to know that Im not the only one who thinks that.

 

[ohdisco]

I do know them on a personal level, infact they arent even sad. I mean of course sometimes they get sad, doesnt everyone? To me they are just people who walk around showing off their scars, pretending to "hide themselfs from the world", wearing black all over the place, wearing WAYYY to much eyeshadow...

Okay, so Im sure not ALL of them are like that, but seriously when you look at them at my school thats what it is, and I went to disney during "bat" weekend, and thats like emo basically (not really but a lot of "emos" were there) and it was crazy, I mean seriously what are emos doing at the happiest place on earth, if to them there is no such thing as happiness? That life is ALWAYS dull?
Seriously, If you are older then 30 and you decide you want to be emo, go right ahead, but seriously, i think most of "emo" people are insane.
Not mentally by law, but just crazy.


I just dont believe in that.



*wipes sweat from hands*

Phew!
I thought I was going insane or something!
Its always good to know that Im not the only one who thinks that.

I dunno; I've ever seen emo people like that. What you're talking about reminds me more of the gothic following. like this: http://www.dobi.nu/emo/girls.htm was me in high school minus the lebret piercing. Haha, the emo boy is identical to my boy, besides the ska band thing (he doesn't know to play instruments).

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

I dunno; I've ever seen emo people like that. What you're talking about reminds me more of the gothic following. like this: http://www.dobi.nu/emo/girls.htm was me in high school minus the lebret piercing. Haha, the emo boy is identical to my boy, besides the ska band thing (he doesn't know to play instruments).

No.
Im talking emo, thats NOTHING compared to what I know.

Like this,
except WORSE.

 

[ohdisco]

No.
Im talking emo, thats NOTHING compared to what I know.

Like this,
except WORSE.

Ok.
Most hilarious thing: I owned that t-shirt when I was 14, hahahaha. That's an Alkaline Trio t-shirt.

But when I think of Emo, I think of what I showed, not what you showed. That's a scene kid, to me.

 

[disney100666]

My friends call me Emo. I had the hair that covered my face and they were all like "Bridget's emo!" I'm obviously not. I have nothing to be depressed about and I'm living a great life. They really don't know what they are talking about.

I'm REALLY sorry that all those terrible things happened to you.

 

[Ms.Squeakers]

Yah no,
at my school thats just "Geek" (for the girls) or "Total Hottie" (for the guys)