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That’s why my guaranteed week is over Halloween. Seriously.I see your point, I’ve changed my mind. It’s almost time to start my walk for Halloween 2020.
Got ya beat.
That’s why my guaranteed week is over Halloween. Seriously.I see your point, I’ve changed my mind. It’s almost time to start my walk for Halloween 2020.
Nobody was trying to talk them out of walking but merely stating the obvious:
There are only a very small subset of rooms where it matters.
Nobody was trying to talk them out of walking but merely stating the obvious:
There are only a very small subset of rooms where it matters.
If somebody here wants to walk a March AKV standard studio for 3 months, by all means do so. Just because it’s pointed out that that’s a complete waste of time doesn’t mean that walking is being discouraged.
Walking is a tool, one out of many. But like any tool, it’s only useful for what it’s designed to accomplish: securing rooms at 11 months where supply at that time exceeds demand. That’s a very few rooms.
Walking isn’t a hammer and every room isn’t a nail. Just because someone points out that a tool isn’t useful for what you’re trying to accomplish isn’t some grand moral proof that the person giving the advice knows deep in their heart that the tool is immoral. It probably just means that a specialty tool useful in a few applications probably isn’t the best tool to bang in every nail.
I am waiting to start my AKL for November 2020 next month so I don’t cross UY.I see your point, I’ve changed my mind. It’s almost time to start my walk for Halloween 2020.
If I might turn things back to the OP, I believe that owning a fixed week is going to be even more important to securing hard to get studios.That’s why my guaranteed week is over Halloween. Seriously.
Got ya beat.
As I’ve said earlier in this thread.
The old day by day booking solves the walking issues once and for all. It gives everyone the exact same chance to get the room.
Again, I have no dog in this fight, but I’m just offering a solution.
The perfect example of a cure worst than the disease.As I’ve said earlier in this thread.
The old day by day booking solves the walking issues once and for all. It gives everyone the exact same chance to get the room.
Again, I have no dog in this fight, but I’m just offering a solution.
IMO, the best & easiest "solution" is to make every date change a cancel and re-book (with real-time waitlist checks before inventory is released back into the system). But that's not going to happen, either (thank goodness)!As I’ve said earlier in this thread.
The old day by day booking solves the walking issues once and for all. It gives everyone the exact same chance to get the room.
Again, I have no dog in this fight, but I’m just offering a solution.
If DVC thought the pushback against the 2020 reallocation was bad, I can only imagine the calls they’d get about making every change a cancel/rebook.IMO, the best & easiest "solution" is to make every date change a cancel and re-book (with real-time waitlist checks before inventory is released back into the system). But that's not going to happen, either (thank goodness)!
Agree. 100%+I don't really think walking is all that much of a problem. I strongly agree with others' comments that 99 percent of room inventory does not need to be walked. Some categories are always going to be high demand as they are very limited. Nothing is going to change that. The current system as is allows everyone an equal opportunity at those rooms and maintains great flexibility in its model. In my mind, this is very positive. I think the best solution to reducing walking overall is a point reallocation to increase point totals for popular times i.e., late fall. One more point I would make to anyone seeing increased walking over the last few months is to keep in mind that is a busy time anyway and it also is corresponding to when SW is likely to open...
Nobody was trying to talk them out of walking but merely stating the obvious:
There are only a very small subset of rooms where it matters.
If somebody here wants to walk a March AKV standard studio for 3 months, by all means do so. Just because it’s pointed out that that’s a complete waste of time doesn’t mean that walking is being discouraged.
Walking is a tool, one out of many. But like any tool, it’s only useful for what it’s designed to accomplish: securing rooms at 11 months where supply at that time exceeds demand. That’s a very few rooms.
Walking isn’t a hammer and every room isn’t a nail. Just because someone points out that a tool isn’t useful for what you’re trying to accomplish isn’t some grand moral proof that the person giving the advice knows deep in their heart that the tool is immoral. It probably just means that a specialty tool useful in a few applications probably isn’t the best tool to bang in every nail.
By the time you realize you should have walked, it’s already to late. Gonna start grabbing the first available room where I won’t cross my use year and book it. I’m glad y’all talked me into this. Thank you for helping me see the error of my ways.
I remember those arguments about day-by-day callers back in the day.Agree. 100%+
FWIW, this topic comes up every year when it's time to make 11 month early December reservations. It has done so for as long as I can remember and I've been around the DIS since the late 90's. The only difference is that this topic used to be about day by day calling, but the upset and emotions and repetition of arguments ad nauseam was virtually the same.
The change to 11+ 7 didn't happen until it looked like the call load on MS would lead to more staffing and cost Disney more. IMO, call loads & it's impact on staffing is also why we can now modify online. It wasn't complaints! This is is why I doubt DVCMC will do anything about walking. YMMV.
I know you are being sarcastic, but the need to walk is real. And it is completely determined by how much you need a particular reservation, and how hard you are willing to work for it. If it doesn't matter enough to work for it, then you shouldn't do it. And you shouldn't complain when you don't get what you want. Once you decide you are going to put in the work, you need to realize that you are NOT working against the average person, who either doesn't care very much, or who just doesn't know very much. You are working against the other Walkers. Who is able to work more, and more effectively.
The way to determine if you need to walk is by starting to check availability of your desired room type, every day, at some point before. For most reservations this could be 5 days. But starting 2 weeks before will be necessary for some popular times. More than that I really don't want to think about it. If it is available every day, at the cusp of the 11 month window, then you are fine. But if it isn't, then you will need to start walking. Doing this does NOT require you to walk, if it is available. But it is still work, and time consuming every day.