Educated by thread

[WDWCRAZY32]

I will hopefully close on my OKW resale in the next 2 weeks. I have visited WDW on site several times each year since opening and have only once cancelled a res. and never booked multiple res. I have rented points from members and stayed at DVC resorts, test drive if you will.

Now with DVC it sounds as if I am forced to book multiple res. just to secure at least a res. at my home resort with the 11 month window.

My hopes are to stay at a different DVC resort early Dec. each year. To do this I will no doubt have to use the waitlist for other than my home resort most likely because of multiple res. that are made with no intent of ever using them or "I can't make up my mind". Come on people #$*$ or get off the pot.

I will be holding 3-1BR villas at OKW for at least 4 months waiting for the 7 month window and even then probably longer.

It is true, in Black & White, you can do what you will with your points but Black & White makes the Club and Family thing sound like your Family consists of ME, MYSELF & I, the heck with everyone else "I" have the points so "I'll" block the rooms from anyone else getting them just in case "I" decide "I" want them.

Unfortunately "I" am now forced into the ME, MYSELF & I Club so I can at least secure a res. at my home resort.

My basic philosophy for life is the old Do Un To Others but from now on when it comes to DVC Res. it will be ME, MYSELF & I.

Nice way to start a "FAMILY"

I understand the thread I'm referring to is about multiple res. for a renter but the responses on that thread showed me that there a lot of the M,M&I families out there and unfortunately "I'll" have to deal with them in they're way. I guess it's all part of the game.

"I" WILL enjoy the future years that I spend as a DVC member with or without the "FAMILY".

 

[Richyams]

I have never made multiple reservations for just in case purposes.

I am not sure how often its done, but I see doing it for yourself as somewhat less rude than doing it for a renter. Reservations at your home resort while waiting to try at a different resort may lock someone out or mess someone up, but that is why its so important to buy where you plan to stay most.

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multiple reservations for a renter, really bad taste, I wish there was a good way to stop this.

Multiple reservations intended for the member, still rude, but widespread enough and touted by salesstaff enough to make it acceptable....almost

Home resort ressies while waiting for another resort at seven months.....this is advice that we give, I never really even thought of this as rude. It really is needed when planning non-home resort trips.....after brief consideration, I guess that this is really forced upon us by the system, I am not complaing about the system, I think it is good, but this practice seems to be built into the system......acceptable and not rude at all.

 

[CaptainMidnight]

Well, I agree, it is dissapointing to read all the "ME, MYSELF & I" posts. Take some heart, not everyone is in that club, although we seem to be in the minority when it omes to the poll results. I agree, it is disheartening.

But, from one person who is not in that club, "Welcome Home (almost)!"

 

[ripleysmom]

Richy, while I agree with you about multiple reservations for renters, in this instance I disagree strongly.

I don't believe that making a reservation at the 11 month mark to ensure that I have accommodations for a proposed trip while planning to possibly switch to another resort is in any way inconsiderate to other owners.

We have a reservation for BWV next year for President's Week. DS has indicated that he would like to stay at BCV (so he can catch lizards at the pool ) so I will be trying to switch our reservations to BCV at the 7 month window. If I cannot make the switch then we will remain at BWV.

 

[zurgswife]

I've never had a problem securing a ressie at my popular home resort BWV or at other resorts at the 11 or 7 month window. I even need a 2 bdrm... if I wait until after my 11 month window I will have difficulty getting a standard at BWV but this is the only resort where this option is available.

The only time I have broken down and reserved day by day is my covetted 2 week Christmas/New Years ressies for 2004.

I really think that in the bigger picture you aren't effected by whether ressies are made and canceled or not....besides you'll never know why your on a wait or why a ressie is a cancelled so don't worry about it....there are far more pressing things in the world.

Enjoy making your ressies...and Welcome Home...

 

[KNWVIKING]

I think you may be confused with the point a couple recent threads were trying to make.

Example: I own at OKW but would like to try BWV. I absolutely want a specific date. I call OKW at 11 month window and book one unit just to be certain that I have a place to stay on my date.
At 7 months,I call MS, ask for BWV.It's available,I book it, I cancel my OKW. This is exactly how the system is supposed to work. Nobody has a problem with this.

Now, I also own at VWL and BCV. I'm not sure where I want to stay on a specific date,so at 11 months I book one unit at all three home resorts, knowing full well I'm going to cancel two of them,possibly at the last moment. IMO, this is a very inconsiderate thing to do. Members who would also like to stay during those dates don't have the piece of mind knowing they have a ressie simply because I couldn't make up my mind.

 

[Richyams]

RM, I didn't edit, this was my original post.....I did actually pause and consider(brief consideration)

Did you notice the last phrase? My 'rudeness' grade?

after brief consideration, I guess that this is really forced upon us by the system, I am not complaing about the system, I think it is good, but this practice seems to be built into the system......acceptable and not rude at all.

I agree and have to say that I find it "acceptable and not rude at all"

 

[Richyams]

ask for BWV.It's available,I book it, I cancel my OKW. This is exactly how the system is supposed to work. Nobody has a problem with this.

It was his post and complaint about the practice that made me think about it. I had never considered it rude before, I actually had never considered it. Really, it is putting someone off, it really is, I do see his point. After my brief consideration, I came to the conclusion that it was a necessary evil built into the system.

Not rude, just prudent.

 

[WDWCRAZY32]

knwviking

My original thought for this thread is based on replies on the other threads by a number of people that make multiple res. because they can, not giving any thought to other people that are trying to get the same dates. Making a res. at your home only to cancel at the 7 month window for another resort is normal and acceptable as far as I'm concerned but abusing the 11 month window is my point.

Granted it is a question of consideration for other people but it does affect all of the members in one way or another.

Unfortunately there is no way of controling or stopping it short of a cancellation fee which will never happen.

 

[Dean]

I have no problem with either issue but from an impact on other members making 3 separate reservations then holding them for several months will have a far greater impact on other members than someone making 2 different ones and holding them for several days for a member. I find anyone that thinks one is ok and the other not as schizophrenic. Both are within the rules, both have some impact on other members. I don't see where the issue of what the intent for the room is has any bearing at all. It's exactly like the issue of CRO having rooms to rent when there are no rooms for points.

 

[Lisa F]

Good lord, I cannot get over the holier than thou "I'm sooooo considerate and unselfish, why can't everyone else be also" attitude.

I think if you spent a fraction of the time reserving your own vacation at the 11 month window as you do worrying about what other people do with their points, you might be a lot happier. If you want to switch at the 7 month window and nothing is available at the place you want to switch into, go on the waiting list. This way when those evil selfish horrible people who are holding two reservations cancel one, you will get what you want... perhaps without the instant gratification, but if you are going to be THAT unhappy staying at your home resort perhaps you should reconsider where you buy into DVC.

I don't see how someone using points that they own at their home resort is an abuse of the 11 month window! If someone has enough points to do this, more power to them. Those points have to get used somehow. The only difference between someone who uses their points at the 11 month window with the intention of canceling part of their reservation and someone who uses their points at the 11 month window with the intention of using the entire reservation is that one allows for someone else to use part of the original reservation when the person decides which week to give up.

Lisa

 

[WDWCRAZY32]

Quote originally posted by Lisa F

You're hogging limited resources for yourself and making it impossible for other DVC members to use them.



I do believe this is what my original post is saying.

No holier than thou attitude just respect and courtesy, something that seems to be severely lacking in the Me, Myself & I attitude.

 

[lacool]

Okay, I am truly confused by this thread. Is the OP's message that booking at your home resort at the 11 month window when you hope to move someplace else when the 7 month window opens is wrong? That can't be it.

If you do make a ressie at your home resort, and are unable to get one at your resort of preference, would you cancel the trip? Or would you stay at the resort where you made the original ressie, and try again next time. If you will stay there, then you are not tying up anything other than the rooms you plan to use. If there is space at your resort of choice at 7 months, well, then you will cancel the original ressie. You are not double booking, simply shifting resorts. I fail to see how this is even inconsiderate.

One of the reasons I bought DVC was the flexibility to choose a different resort each time if I wanted to. If I want to try out VWL, but it's booked, that doesn't mean that I don't still want to go to WDW. It just means I'll get on the waitlist. And if the waitlist doesn't come through, then I will be happy to stay at my home this time around, and will enjoy planning another trip to try out VWL sometime before 2042.