DVC Resort at Contemporary?

[whithouston]

Any news on the rumor that one of the wings will be torn down and then rebuilt as a DVC resort?

 

[RichWally]

That would be excellent. I can dream until then.

 

[ohanafamily]

I've heard that rumor a few times, but if you think about it it doesn't make sense to do; why tear down a wing when you have high occupancy year round? I will say that I would love it, but I sincerely doubt it. What sayeth you WDWHOUND?

 

[DebbieB]

I can't see them announcing it before SSR is almost soldout. If they announced it now, they would have a hard time selling the rest of SSR. SSR has just started building phase 2 of 3.

 

[WDWHound]

Well, the concierge staff at the Contemporary that I talked to beleived this will happen, but resort cast members are not always the most releiable sources. I haven't read or heard and rumors about this in the last 3 months, but I still tend to think it will happen. Probably not until SSR is completed though, which would put it a ways out.

 

[mitros]

Would it not make more sense to add a new building or two if there is enough room? ohanafamily makes a good point, why take it down if it is always filled? Adding, like they did at BCV and WL, would seem to make more sense. Also, a little off topic, haven't sales slowed a bit since the points have almost doubled from what they were when the DVC was started back in '91?.

 

[WDWHound]

Would it not make more sense to add a new building or two if there is enough room? ohanafamily makes a good point, why take it down if it is always filled? Adding, like they did at BCV and WL, would seem to make more sense. Also, a little off topic, haven't sales slowed a bit since the points have almost doubled from what they were when the DVC was started back in '91?.

The Garden wings are not an efficient use of space (only 2 or 3 stories tall I believe) and are badly in need of refurb. The rumors are that any new facilty would be much taller, thus making that space more profitable. Also, DVC sales provide a huge burst of short term income, which is what Disney is all about these days.

 

[ohanafamily]

The Garden wings are not an efficient use of space (only 2 or 3 stories tall I believe) and are badly in need of refurb. The rumors are that any new facilty would be much taller, thus making that space more profitable. Also, DVC sales provide a huge burst of short term income, which is what Disney is all about these days.

There you have it, I just have heard this rumor SO MANY TIMES! Furthermore, if they were to do this, wouldn't the rooms be a lot more points (being on the Monorail)???

 

[mitros]

Since most of the Disney resorts are about 4 stories tall or less, would these new DVC portions be as high as the rest of the Contemporary, do you suppose?

 

[minster22]

I just returned from a quick DVC trip and chatted with one of the sales reps at BWV and she mentioned the Contempory rumor also. She did say it was a rumor but that it has been talked about a lot lately................

 

[RichWally]

I myself would love the idea of a DVC at the Contemporary.
But for those of you who like to provide reasons why this won't happen, how about the Discovery Island becoming a resort???

For the moment I dream. OK even more far fetched, a resort in
Cinderella's Castle
or Haunted Mansion !!!

 

[mochabean]

This rumor has been heard a lot recently and several posts mention it. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to the point rates for the rooms at a Contemporary DVC (Villas at Disney's Contemporary Resort - VCR or Contemporary Resort Villas - CRV)? I'm thinking probably on the order of 150% of BWV/BCV/VWL rates. To give you an idea of what this looks like, here are my predictions for the Sun-Thurs rates. What does anyone think? Would you be willing to pay these rates? (I didn't include Fri-Sat rates because they just get astronomical at my 150% figures, so I think they would probably be adjusted downward a little.)

Sun-Thurs......BWV/BCV/VWL...........................My guess for CRV

Adventure
Studio .........12 .................................................18
1BR .............22..................................................33
2BR..............30..................................................45

Choice
Studio .........12 .................................................18
1BR .............24..................................................36
2BR..............32..................................................48

Dream
Studio .........13 .................................................19
1BR .............28..................................................42
2BR..............34..................................................51

Magic
Studio .........14 .................................................21
1BR .............30..................................................45
2BR..............40..................................................60

Premiere
Studio .........19 .................................................29
1BR .............40..................................................60
2BR..............50..................................................75

 

[MarylandPirate]

My sales rep said they may do smaller dvc's like the VWL at CR and Poly I just got back from Disney and those wings at CR look kind of rough to me!

 

[What the Heck]

This rumor has been heard a lot recently and several posts mention it. Anyone care to hazard a guess as to the point rates for the rooms at a Contemporary DVC (Villas at Disney's Contemporary Resort - VCR or Contemporary Resort Villas - CRV)? I'm thinking probably on the order of 150% of BWV/BCV/VWL rates.

I'm interested in knowing why you think they would be so high. I would think they would be equivalent, after all the Boardwalk and the Beach Club are considered by many if not better than, then at least equivalent to the Contemporary. And, Wilderness Lodge is also a deluxe resort and no slouch in its own right. Unless of course the DVC was in the Tower. Just my thoughts.

 

[tjkraz]

I'm interested in knowing why you think they would be so high. I would think they would be equivalent, after all the Boardwalk and the Beach Club are considered by many if not better than, then at least equivalent to the Contemporary. And, Wilderness Lodge is also a deluxe resort and no slouch in its own right. Unless of course the DVC was in the Tower. Just my thoughts.

Why would DVD set the points higher than other resorts? Becuase they can!

I agree mochabean's numbers seem a little high, but I wouldn't be surprised to see numbers 10-20% higher than the other properties. By law, DVC can sell enough points that each room in the resort would be booked 365 days per year (less the approx. 4% holdings they keep for room maintenance.) So, a point table that is 10% higher than, say, BCV means that Disney realizes 10% more revenue than they otherwise would have for sales at the resort.

Assuming they would make appropriate enhancements to the resort pool, and construct first-class rooms as part of the DVC component, I think they could easily justify a higher point schedule given the proximity to the Magic Kingdom and the monorail access. Whether they will or not remains to be seen.

Come to think of it, whether DVC even comes to the Contemporary still remains to be seen.

 

[bicker]

Wouldn't it make more sense to leave the points comparable, and just increase the price 10%?

 

[ohanafamily]

Wouldn't it make more sense to leave the points comparable, and just increase the price 10%?

No, because the resort has an added value of (say) 10%. If the points were that much more for this resort then people with points from other resorts would in effect get a discounted rate. Also, when they booked at another reort (or used II) their price would be effectively more. Additionally, since the maintenance costs will be more it just makes sense to charge a higher number of points for the room...

 

[bicker]

Well, I can understand that it has a higher maintenance cost, but BWV has a higher maintenance cost than VWL, doesn't it? And that didn't result in a higher point structure.

I'm not convinced that a CR DVC would have a "higher value" as you assert, and I think that's really the issue. You cannot beat being right on the BoardWalk, with an easy walk to two theme parks IMHO.

 

[tjkraz]

Wouldn't it make more sense to leave the points comparable, and just increase the price 10%?

Depends on your point of view, I guess. IMO, an across-the-board 10% price increase would garner a whole lot more (negative) attention from potential owners than would a point schedule 10% higher than current resorts.

 

[bicker]

I disagree with that. I doubt buyers would hold more animosity for a higher price than for having to "pay" so many more points for a week at their home resort than the rest of WDW DVC owners.