DVC discount Epcot after 4???

[Dano1182]

A friend has told me that he heard that there is a new Annnual pass for EPCOT only.
Any one have info on this?
Is there a DVC discount on that ?

 

[DVCconvert]

It isn't new.
It's for Florida Residents only.
There's no dvc discount.

 

[Dano1182]

That would be a nice perk for us DVC people.We like to spend alot of thime by pool and manytimes would liketo goto epcot at night.
It would seems like they could generate some revenue from us.
Who are looking for a nice epcot dinner.
Especially when staying at BCV or BWV.

 

[Deb & Bill]

That would be a nice perk for us DVC people.We like to spend alot of thime by pool and manytimes would liketo goto epcot at night.
It would seems like they could generate some revenue from us.
Who are looking for a nice epcot dinner.
Especially when staying at BCV or BWV.

They generate more income by selling us regular annual passes or premium annual passes.

 

[DizBub]

They generate more income by selling us regular annual passes or premium annual passes.

True, but you could go into Epcot and easily drop $100+ for dinner nightly. Personally, I would rather pay for the After 4 pass and pay OOP for dinners than burn days off our park hoppers. They would make money on us.

 

[crisi]

True, but you could go into Epcot and easily drop $100+ for dinner nightly. Personally, I would rather pay for the After 4 pass and pay OOP for dinners than burn days off our park hoppers. They would make money on us.

They don't have a capacity issue in their restaurants. They operate at capacity now, what is going to be special about your dollar?

 

[DizBub]

They don't have a capacity issue in their restaurants. They operate at capacity now, what is going to be special about your dollar?

A dollar is a dollar.....I would imagine that they would want to keep my dollar on property and not see it go to some restaurant out on International Drive. Not that THAT would ever happen.

 

[Deb & Bill]

A dollar is a dollar.....I would imagine that they would want to keep my dollar on property and not see it go to some restaurant out on International Drive. Not that THAT would ever happen.

Right now, the only way your dollar will make a difference is if you purchase a counter service meal. Most of the TS dining is always booked up solid. Except for maybe Marrakesh and the Chinese restaurant.

 

[DizBub]

Right now, the only way your dollar will make a difference is if you purchase a counter service meal. Most of the TS dining is always booked up solid. Except for maybe Marrakesh and the Chinese restaurant.

Works for us. We LIKE those restaurants!!!!

 

[crisi]

A dollar is a dollar.....I would imagine that they would want to keep my dollar on property and not see it go to some restaurant out on International Drive. Not that THAT would ever happen.

Yes, but right now, most Epcot restaurants can't TAKE an additional dollar. They are booked solid. You are suggesting something that will add demand for tables to increase Disney's revenue - but Disney's problem - since even before the advent of the DDP (and the DDP made it much worse) was not having enough tables to satisfy the demand.

So what does Disney gain? You get a discount on park admission for an exchange of increased revenue at Epcot restaurants - but for Disney, that's a wash, that table is already occupied either by someone on the DDP or someone paying cash.

Since the advent of the DDP, Disney has been treating their table service restaurants as a loss leader to drive traffic not to parks - but to hotels. They have a ton of hotel rooms that they sell at a premium over almost every other hotel in Orlando. Hotels have huge fixed costs, are a huge capital investment. And Disney has decided that high hotel occupancy is better for them than super profitable restaurants.

Your idea is good - if Disney had excess supply of tables in restaurants in Epcot that were sitting empty.

 

[DizBub]

Point taken. I am certainly no economist. Only thinking of something that might be useful to DVCers. They already have our $$ anyway. That said, there are slow(er) times when they could offer such a perk..............we will still be there, maybe cook our own dinner in the kitchen..............just another dollar they won't get from me. Not really.

 

[fishermouse]

Yes, but right now, most Epcot restaurants can't TAKE an additional dollar. They are booked solid. You are suggesting something that will add demand for tables to increase Disney's revenue - but Disney's problem - since even before the advent of the DDP (and the DDP made it much worse) was not having enough tables to satisfy the demand.



Your idea is good - if Disney had excess supply of tables in restaurants in Epcot that were sitting empty.

Not that I'm on the EPCOT only AP wagon I'm perfectly happy with my annual pass, but we rarely have trouble getting a reservation at any Disney resturant. We also often walk in with no reservation and only a short wait. Granted if you want prime time you may not get it on short notice, but it's vacation so we have no schedual. (AP also allows us to buy tables in wonderland card which pays for itself in no time.)This may be because we try to avoid the busiest seasons, the EPCOT only pass is designed to get Fla. residents to come out for dinner during those slow times as well. If I remember correctly it has black out dates, when the aprks are the busiest.

 

[sweetdana]

I have walked up to Tokyo dining, German Rest, San Ann's (before the other one was even open) and China all walk up available at one time or another. They could supplement a new country or 2 with the cash from it.

I love this idea. I would totally use it on years when we do not get APS.
During busier times when they are already full they have more countries to offer TS to, and they are filled, and slower times they have more people there. Heck if they offered this as a nightly pass say $15 a person with a dinner purchase or something. IE Validating the park ent fee. They could offer the validation as a perk to direct buyers of DVC.. they are looking for more to offer them! I LOVE this rumor!

 

[WDWDad]

I agree, we have done walk up reservations before as well. I don't expect to do it during April, but other lower demand times have availibility. We have all seen pictures of Epcot empty at certain times of year. To say that this idea is without merit, or that Disney wouldn't stand to gain something is shortsighted.

 

[crisi]

But if you don't walk up - chances are pretty good someone else WILL walk up and take that table - someone who paid full price to get in. This only works from a revenue standpoint if Disney sees more revenue in dining than they get in discounting the admission. For most times of year, and premium dining times - that isn't likely to be the case.

I've walked in too, but it would be far more effective for Disney to fill those tables by offering a 20% dining discount to DVCers for the unpopular restaurants or during slow times of year (or slow times of day - dinner reservations between 4-5), than to open it up with an after four pass for what is now a significant portion of their park attendence and have people getting into Le Cellier at a discounted rate for park admission, and with easy (and often discounted, since DVCers aren't paying the seasonal premium) DDP costs.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

It's not about the dining capacity at Epcot. It doesn't matter who is in at what time, Epcot restaraunts only have so many seats. They don't care if you get one or not.

Disney wants you to buy the FULL ticket price. Not a discounted one. That is the reason. Florida residents have to work during the week. They do not fill up Epcot restaraunts, its the visitiors/vacationers that do. So Disney is not losing any money to the Fla. residents.

 

[Brian Noble]

Personally, I would rather pay for the After 4 pass and pay OOP for dinners than burn days off our park hoppers

The After Four pass is roughly $150. If your trips are typically five days or longer, you are probably buying expiring MYW tickets. At that point an extra day is only $5. You would have to visit Epcot thirty evenings in a year before you broke even---at which point a regular annual pass would have long been the better option.

If you are buying non-expiring tickets, the value of a day is about $56. So, the After Four pass is worth three days. But, the regular AP for DVC members is only $430 or so. If you buy an Epcot after-four, and visit the parks as little as five days in the course of a year otherwise, you're already spending as much annually as a DVC AP costs.

 

[spiceycat]

here the florida resident site from disney
http://disneyworld.disney.go.com/passholder-program/

what I want is the weekday pass. Mon thru fri - can't go on sat or sun.

 

[Greysword]

I agree with Brian (and he beat me to it ). I think the demand for this pass would be extremely low with DVC members, as the pass would only be useful on days where a park was not visited. To that end, I would hazard a guess that this averages about 2-3 days each visit. Instead, members would invest the $150 (and the price of their non-refundable MYW base tickets - to choose the costliest option) and get a full AP with other perks.

Just my point of view.

- Chris

 

[Dano1182]

The info I had gotten was that it was $49.00
I can now assume that was wrong.

We only go to the parks 2 or 3 days during our typical 8 day stay.

I simply thought that it would be nice to be able to go to epcot a dicount in the evening.

As for the returants always beeing full.
It is true that the PS may be full but they seem to havel ots of no shows.
I think this is becaus people on the dining plan make mulitiple resservations and block out seating .

I don't see how this would cost Disney much .
My humble group would most likely spend more during a vist to epcot them we would going to a standard hotel rest.

Drinks food trinkets etc.

I still think it would be a nice perk.