Duke TIP?

[okeydokey]

FWIW, my DD11 will be taking the SAT as a 7th grader this year. After speaking with other parents and teachers, they all stated that the SAT was better for gifted and advanced learners as it was more intuitive in nature than the ACT. Instead of testing minute facts, it tests reasoning as well as knowledge. Also, you can make an educated guess without a penalty on the SAT. DD is good at writing and I would think the written essay would be her strong suit.

We are not in the Duke TIP area, but participate in an annual talent search through another university. DD has enjoyed the day programs greatly and we are considering a 3 week summer program this year provided that she qualifies for it.

Actually it is the SAT that deduct 1/4 point for every wrong answer. You can guess with no penalty on the ACT.

I think I'll pick up a couple of prep books to have her compare the two. She has a good vocabulary, so the SAT may be the one.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

FWIW, my DD11 will be taking the SAT as a 7th grader this year. After speaking with other parents and teachers, they all stated that the SAT was better for gifted and advanced learners as it was more intuitive in nature than the ACT. Instead of testing minute facts, it tests reasoning as well as knowledge. Also, you can make an educated guess without a penalty on the SAT. DD is good at writing and I would think the written essay would be her strong suit.

We are not in the Duke TIP area, but participate in an annual talent search through another university. DD has enjoyed the day programs greatly and we are considering a 3 week summer program this year provided that she qualifies for it.

Just echoing PP. You CANNOT guess on the SAT. Unless of course you listen to the movie "How I Got Into College". Ramsey, anyone? My dd and I watched that the other day. Remember the "SAT guys" in the boat drowning?

 

[Aristomommy]

Actually it is the SAT that deduct 1/4 point for every wrong answer. You can guess with no penalty on the ACT.

I think I'll pick up a couple of prep books to have her compare the two. She has a good vocabulary, so the SAT may be the one.

Sorry, I stand corrected. I posted from memory and I got them mixed up. SAT does deduct as you say.

 

[kristilew]

There is an ACT prep site that posts a question of the day. http://www.actstudent.org/qotd/

It's a quick, easy way to get kids used to the types of questions they will encounter if this is the test they will take.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

I wanted to say that my dd did a run through of test the day before, just to time herself.

A WATCH is important to bring to the test so your dd can pace herself correctly.

DUKETIP had sent us a prep book with a sample test that she took. It was very helpful to do a run through.

 

[zoemurr]

a G/T 7th grader who has tested very high on other standardized tests and has skipped a grade.

How do I get her approved to take the SAT this year? Does Duke have to find you?

 

[Holly]

a G/T 7th grader who has tested very high on other standardized tests and has skipped a grade.

How do I get her approved to take the SAT this year? Does Duke have to find you?

You should call your school's guidance counselor.

It varies by area. I live in the northeast and my son did the Johns Hopkins program. The info came to us via his middle school.


He's a senior now and took both the SAT and the ACT as a junior, as was recommended by several admissions counselors.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

a G/T 7th grader who has tested very high on other standardized tests and has skipped a grade.

How do I get her approved to take the SAT this year? Does Duke have to find you?

As PP said your school program might be John's Hopkins. I know that for DUKETIP the guidance counselor recommends you and that is based on your standarized testing.

If you cannot take it this year, you only have to be 13 to take the SAT or ACT. That is my little gem I found out a couple of days ago. Although my dd was 13 when she took it last yr..so not sure of all the details. Hmm.

I will find out more when I sign up her for the SAT, shortly. She did not take that last yr., so I will see.

I signed her up for the SAT and it looks like as long as you are in 8th grade, you can take either test without any recommendations.

Now you do need a photo ID like a school ID or state ID card or the "scholar ID paper" (duketip had that paperwork as part of the program last yr)to identify you in order to prove who you are on test day. My dd does have a state ID, so I will not need to go to her school and get paperwork to identify her because she does not have a student ID.

Just adding that in case you did not know that.

 

[zoemurr]

As PP said your school program might be John's Hopkins. I know that for DUKETIP the guidance counselor recommends you and that is based on your standarized testing.

If you cannot take it this year, you only have to be 13 to take the SAT or ACT. That is my little gem I found out a couple of days ago. Although my dd was 13 when she took it last yr..so not sure of all the details. Hmm.

I will find out more when I sign up her for the SAT, shortly. She did not take that last yr., so I will see.

I signed her up for the SAT and it looks like as long as you are in 8th grade, you can take either test without any recommendations.

Now you do need a photo ID like a school ID or state ID card or the "scholar ID paper" (duketip had that paperwork as part of the program last yr)to identify you in order to prove who you are on test day. My dd does have a state ID, so I will not need to go to her school and get paperwork to identify her because she does not have a student ID.

Just adding that in case you did not know that.

Funny, after I wrote this am I got the letter in the mail saying that she is eligible. Ours is the JH program. "If she qualifies and is eligible for the summer program the tuition fee is approx. $3500." She would absolutely love it, but that's not happening. When they receive their scores is there any info that explains what it means? While she is smart, she is only 11. I can't imagine her score will be very good at all.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Funny, after I wrote this am I got the letter in the mail saying that she is eligible. Ours is the JH program. "If she qualifies and is eligible for the summer program the tuition fee is approx. $3500." She would absolutely love it, but that's not happening. When they receive their scores is there any info that explains what it means? While she is smart, she is only 11. I can't imagine her score will be very good at all.

They get their scores and you see where they sit. Now my dd is interested in scholarships and has high goals so this is something that she is doing for herself. She knows if she wants a put of state college that she has to come up with scholarships. Her sister is a college sophomore which really puts things in perspective for her. Plus my dd is going into HS next yr so for her this is a help.

There are so many programs available all over the place at many universities. There is just not 1 program as an FYI to you. Esp. when she reaches 7th grade.

Programs at the dorm level over the summer start at 7th grade here.

My dd did one over the summer for 3 weeks at a university and it was about 1500ish. So it was not cheap however she is not a sports kid and loves learning so we just treat it as if this is her extracurricular activity.

Now there are other things available however I have not even really looked at them. They have "weekend stuff".

11 is pretty young to take the test. However some of the kids my dd knows are smart and probable would have done well. Heck some 7th graders almost made perfect scores already. Sick, huh?

What grade is she in?

 

[zoemurr]

They get their scores and you see where they sit. Now my dd is interested in scholarships and has high goals so this is something that she is doing for herself. She knows if she wants a put of state college that she has to come up with scholarships. Her sister is a college sophomore which really puts things in perspective for her. Plus my dd is going into HS next yr so for her this is a help.

There are so many programs available all over the place at many universities. There is just not 1 program as an FYI to you. Esp. when she reaches 7th grade.

Programs at the dorm level over the summer start at 7th grade here.

My dd did one over the summer for 3 weeks at a university and it was about 1500ish. So it was not cheap however she is not a sports kid and loves learning so we just treat it as if this is her extracurricular activity.

Now there are other things available however I have not even really looked at them. They have "weekend stuff".

11 is pretty young to take the test. However some of the kids my dd knows are smart and probable would have done well. Heck some 7th graders almost made perfect scores already. Sick, huh?

What grade is she in?

but skipped so she is young. She has scored 100% on two different IQ tests, but I imagine that this is completely different. Can't hurt her though if her score is not great right? I imagine it's not really recorded anywhere until she is older? How do I find out if there are any programs near us?

My biggest fear is that she'll get a better grade now than I did in H.S. She got her smarts from her dad.

 

[texasmom]

My DD took the ACT last year as a 7th grader. I had her take it to give her the experience as well as to see if she would qualify for some of their summer programs. She scored high enough for state recognition as well as some of their Center Summer Programs. Because her math and science scores were not high enough, she could only take fine arts, social science, and writing/reading type courses. For students who don't qualify for the Centers, they may score high enough for one of the academies. Anyways, she went to Wake Forest University for three weeks last June and studied anthropology and archaeology. She stayed in the dorm and loved every moment of it. She was taught on a college level by a university professor. I was able to speak with the professor at the end of the program to review how she did. My DD just retook the test in order to improve math and science scores (at her request) so she could take more science type classes at the summer programs. The qualifying scores for 8th grade re-takers are even higher than the qualifying scores for the 7th graders. Lets just say, according to ACT, she is college ready in 3 of the subject areas, but she still wasn't high enough in math to take any of the science type classes.

My DS is in 5th grade. The only reason I signed him up for Duke TIP was for him to attend one of the summer programs, called CRISIS, they have for his age level. These camps are only a week long and focus on problem solving in crisis situations such as hurricanes, earthquakes, etc.

Good luck.

 

[texasmom]

My DD scored better than I did as a senior when she took it at 12 yo. Heck, she scored as well as or better than 90% of high school seniors and college freshmen.

 

[texasmom]

I think she meant she qualified to participate in the Duke TIP program in one academic area based on her school/state assessment scores.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

My younger daughter, now a college senior, took the SAT in 8th grade because she was considering the Johns Hopkins program, similar to the program offered by Duke. Although she didn't do the program, when she took the SAT and ACT in high school, she had insight into the testing process that she gained from having done so well on the test in 8th grade. I think she did better when it "counted" because of how well she did on the earlier test.

 

[mjkacmom]

My kids didn't participate - I tend to shy away from things that cost extra money, anyway.

 

[mom2rtk]

We just passed on this for our 7th grader. Both of our boys were in it and ultimately felt like it didn't make any difference for them. So we kept our $75.

 

[DVCLiz]

This thread is three years old - I bet the OP has already made her decision .

 

[mom2rtk]

This thread is three years old - I bet the OP has already made her decision .

If she hasn't then we probably need a different sort of thread!

ZOMBIE thread alert!

 

[SLK1]

It's great to expose your child to the test at that age, and getting their scores kind of shows you what their strengths and weaknesses are and gives you an idea of what to watch for for when they're taking it for college.

However, I have to disagree with people who say it looks good on college applications. I have one in college at U. of Florida and one getting ready to graduate high school. During our college visits, admissions officers ALWAYS have said they do not care one iota about what your child did before high school, unless it's Girl Scout Gold Award or Boy Scout Eagle Award, and those are usually earned in high school anyway. They look for sustained volunteer service (meaning something they stuck with, not picked up hours here or there), strength of schedule of classes, AP/IB/Honors classes, standardized test scores (taken in junior and senior year, not 7th grade), GPA, and of course how well-rounded they are.

Either way, being asked to participate is a nice honor and shows your kid is on the right track!