DUES Info! - All resorts dues have been released

[bryaalre]

If they start singling out short stays for increased housekeeping, what would stop people from complaining about other items, like transportation. I have had resort only stays where I didn't take any transportation for a few days and I have had parks days where I'm hitting all four parks in one day taking 5 or 6 buses, a couple monorail trips and using the Skyliner.

 

[walt34]

If they start singling out short stays for increased housekeeping, what would stop people from complaining about other items, like transportation. I have had resort only stays where I didn't take any transportation for a few days and I have had parks days where I'm hitting all four parks in one day taking 5 or 6 buses, a couple monorail trips and using the Skyliner.

As long as Disney does not charge any guests (parks, restaurants, hotels,..) for transportation directly, it would not be a good candidate for removing these costs from the dues. They‘d have to check tickets.

 

[muppets3d]

If they start singling out short stays for increased housekeeping, what would stop people from complaining about other items, like transportation. I have had resort only stays where I didn't take any transportation for a few days and I have had parks days where I'm hitting all four parks in one day taking 5 or 6 buses, a couple monorail trips and using the Skyliner.

Those buses still have to be maintained whether you personally rode on them or not. I don't always park a car when I stay but the parking lot still has to be maintained. These are things that you agreed to fund with your dues when you purchased your position in DVC.

 

[Tatebeck]

Also a longer stay would typically mean using more transportation on average, so those using more points would be paying more of the dues towards the transportation already. The transportation is already correlated correctly IMO. It is the inverse problem for Housekeeping

 

[Tatebeck]

The various fees are never going to be 100% evenly split. It's simply just way too much work. They will make the simplest and fairest system that they feasibly (and cheaply ) make and we'll have to deal with it. Personally I'd be fine either way with the housekeeping (keeping it built into dues or taking it out and paying a check in cleaning fee).

If you keep thinking about it, there are seemingly endless ways in which it's not perfectly "fair." Studios hold more guests on average than 1BRs (due to more 1BR only holding 4 members instead of 5). That means that Members who stay in the low capacity, high cost 1BRs are paying far more than their share in those transportation costs for example. Would it be worth it for them to rebalance or add fees for studio guests? (or credits for 1BR guests?) Probably not.

 

[davidhr]

I’m here to say that I’ll gladly subsidize all of you to avoid having a million extra fees even if they save me money. You’re welcome.

 

[mkatsy]

Also a longer stay would typically mean using more transportation on average, so those using more points would be paying more of the dues towards the transportation already. The transportation is already correlated correctly IMO. It is the inverse problem for Housekeeping

But the question about transportation wasn’t short stay vs. longer stay, it was resort only stay vs. park day stay and the wear and tear on transportation. It speaks to the “why should I contribute to something that I don’t personally use” mindset.

 

[VGCgroupie]

Just to see if me and others were right about listings after dues. As of right now https://www.dvcforless.com/ shows 964 listings.

As of today there 989 listings. I have not gotten paper dues in the mail yet, so it's safe to assume many owners dont know about the new dues just yet let alone get a bill for them.

 

[mkatsy]

One thing that I see VGF doing a great job at is reducing traffic from non revenue producing guests. This summer they began wrist-banding the pools, they removed that gingerbread house which attracted hoards of people, and they moved parking for dining guests across the street. All of this reduces the wear and tear on the infra structure.

 

[Tatebeck]

But the question about transportation wasn’t short stay vs. longer stay, it was resort only stay vs. park day stay and the wear and tear on transportation. It speaks to the “why should I contribute to something that I don’t personally use” mindset.

Eh it still balances out close enough. There will be both shorter and longer "no park" stays. And even 100% "no park" stays are still using (and probably using more of) a long list of other things that are also paid for by dues.

Those "no park" stays are then using the resort/pool/room facilities more, which are also paid for by the dues. They would be going to the pool, walking around the resort, using the rooms, and probably still hopping on some transportation to resort hop or to go to Disney Springs for meals, to see Christmas decorations, etc. still as well.

I usually don't use the pool, so we would also need to track that and give credits for people that don't use the pool for example? That's just way too much to keep track of

 

[Genie+]

When I bought in, a list similar to the one posted was in place. At BWV it wasn't exactly as posted but was similar. You had an initial supply and you were supposedly charged for asking for extra. I often wanted extra towels when traveling with the kids, but in all those years never was I charged. I did tip the delivery person. I've never read of anyone being charged for supplies.

Yeah I think the itemized costs of ‘extras’ served to discourage people from requesting more than they truly needed. To make the request, a person would at least have to consider if it was worth potentially being charged.

I remember the cute little Mickey ears toiletries making cute souvenirs. Those were phased out to more generic packaging, then came wall dispensers, and those are even getting changed out now - dispensing from the bottoms instead of the tops.

With Disney doing hospitality for a long time, they have alot of experience to draw from. The delicate balance of satisfying guests, efficiency, and human nature. Like herding cats lol.

 

[Chili327]

The various fees are never going to be 100% evenly split. It's simply just way too much work. They will make the simplest and fairest system that they feasibly (and cheaply ) make and we'll have to deal with it. Personally I'd be fine either way with the housekeeping (keeping it built into dues or taking it out and paying a check in cleaning fee).

If you keep thinking about it, there are seemingly endless ways in which it's not perfectly "fair." Studios hold more guests on average than 1BRs (due to more 1BR only holding 4 members instead of 5). That means that Members who stay in the low capacity, high cost 1BRs are paying far more than their share in those transportation costs for example. Would it be worth it for them to rebalance or add fees for studio guests? (or credits for 1BR guests?) Probably not.

Or what if I only have 2 people staying in a 2bdrm.

I remember the cute little Mickey ears toiletries making cute souvenirs. Those were phased out to more generic packaging, then came wall dispensers, and those are even getting changed out now - dispensing from the bottoms instead of the tops.

Good thing, last month I hit my arm on it and the whole thing fell of and spilled half the container down the drain. lol

 

[Tatebeck]

Good thing, last month I hit my arm on it and the whole thing fell of and spilled half the container down the drain. lol

So that's why our dues are going up!!! Get 'em!

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I’m here to say that I’ll gladly subsidize all of you to avoid having a million extra fees even if they save me money. You’re welcome.

I'm also okay with keeping things simpler and flexible (so as they are) rather than having housekeeping fees to pay at checkout. At WDW we usually stay a week, so I guess I'm part of the Proud Subsidizers Club!