Dow: 6726

CNBC's Jim Cramer is now talking about how to "Obama-proof" your stocks! Ouch!

Stuart Varney listed the three people responsible for ruining the economy and the market;
1. Obama
2. Tim Geithner. He has had no plan and no statement for 20 days.
3. Paul Volcker. He has said nothing, and given his past history, Varney feels that Volcker has been marginalized and pushed out of his inner circle.

Varney described himself as a "refugee" of the socialized medicine that Obama is heading for. "You wouldn't want it".
 
Stuart Varney listed the three people responsible for ruining the economy and the market;
1. Obama
2. Tim Geithner. He has had no plan and no statement for 20 days.
3. Paul Volcker. He has said nothing, and given his past history, Varney feels that Volcker has been marginalized and pushed out of his inner circle.

Varney described himself as a "refugee" of the socialized medicine that Obama is heading for. "You wouldn't want it".

LMAO :lmao: . Yep it's Obama because we all know the economy was doing great until Obama took office.

Thanks for the morning laugh Dawn.
 
I do not pay much attention to the numbers of the DOW at this time. I do not figure it has reached the bottom yet.

I posted many times since last summer that we were in for a bumpy ride and that things would worse ( I even stated they might get much worse) before they get better.

I started saying last summer that I felt things would not even begin to steady out for at least another year or two and that the recovery process will be slow and may last several years.

People need to just ride this recession out as best they can.

It is possible ... The people who live in Michigan have been in a recession for 8 long years.

The problem right now is people are panicing and pulling their money out of stock market.

My thoughts are during these tough times the best thing most of us who have money in the stock market can do is just leave it there.

JMHO
 
LMAO :lmao: . Yep it's Obama because we all know the economy was doing great until Obama took office.

Thanks for the morning laugh Dawn.

But it has tanked since he was elected. We are back to Dow levels not seen in more than 12 years. He has tripled the deficit and has no realistic plan of paying for his 9000 ear marks budget. He has no regard for the market, for the evaporation of wealth and he is not heading in the right direction.
 

Stuart Varney listed the three people responsible for ruining the economy and the market;
1. Obama
2. Tim Geithner. He has had no plan and no statement for 20 days.
3. Paul Volcker. He has said nothing, and given his past history, Varney feels that Volcker has been marginalized and pushed out of his inner circle.

Varney described himself as a "refugee" of the socialized medicine that Obama is heading for. "You wouldn't want it".

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Too funny Dawn

I guess Fannie and Freddie got a "get of jail free" card
since Stuart Varney and (I guess) you would rather put all the blame on Obama.
 
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Too funny Dawn

I guess Fannie and Freddie got a "get of jail free" card
since Stuart Varney and (I guess) you would rather put all the blame Obama.

Look at one segment of the economy; Travel. Businesses and banks conduct meetings at convention centers, resorts, and yes, in Las Vegas. Even companies that are doing well are afraid of being maligned by the Obama/democrat party admonition to 'scale back' and eliminate "wasteful entertainment/travel. Who is hurt by that? Consider the airlines, flight attendents, ground crews, baggage handlers, hotels, cooks, housekeepers, wait staff, suppliers, transportation crew. The list is endless. The result is a catatrophic avalanche of unintended consequences. And then there is the local impact on taxes that aren't being paid to the municipalities, the state, etc.
 
:rotfl: :lmao: :rotfl: :lmao:
Too funny Dawn

I guess Fannie and Freddie got a "get of jail free" card
since Stuart Varney and (I guess) you would rather put all the blame on Obama.
While Dawn may be guilty of overlooking the problems that got the financial mess "ball" rolling, you're overlooking that the recent "free fall" of the Dow since Jan 20th is pretty clearly a "no confidence" vote in the effort of the Obama administration thus far with regard their announced prescriptions to fix our financial institutions.
 
Stuart Varney listed the three people responsible for ruining the economy and the market;
1. Obama
2. Tim Geithner. He has had no plan and no statement for 20 days.
3. Paul Volcker. He has said nothing, and given his past history, Varney feels that Volcker has been marginalized and pushed out of his inner circle.

Varney described himself as a "refugee" of the socialized medicine that Obama is heading for. "You wouldn't want it".

Of course it has nothing to do with the financial institutions who took the American economy for a ride.
 
The WSJ's opinion page has stated that Obama's "Blame it on Bush" pass is close to its expiration date:

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The Obama Economy
As the Dow keeps dropping, the President is running out of people to blame.

As 2009 opened, three weeks before Barack Obama took office, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at 9034 on January 2, its highest level since the autumn panic. Yesterday the Dow fell another 4.24% to 6763, for an overall decline of 25% in two months and to its lowest level since 1997. The dismaying message here is that President Obama's policies have become part of the economy's problem.

Americans have welcomed the Obama era in the same spirit of hope the President campaigned on. But after five weeks in office, it's become clear that Mr. Obama's policies are slowing, if not stopping, what would otherwise be the normal process of economic recovery. From punishing business to squandering scarce national public resources, Team Obama is creating more uncertainty and less confidence -- and thus a longer period of recession or subpar growth.

The Democrats who now run Washington don't want to hear this, because they benefit from blaming all bad economic news on President Bush. And Mr. Obama has inherited an unusual recession deepened by credit problems, both of which will take time to climb out of. But it's also true that the economy has fallen far enough, and long enough, that much of the excess that led to recession is being worked off. Already 15 months old, the current recession will soon match the average length -- and average job loss -- of the last three postwar downturns. What goes down will come up -- unless destructive policies interfere with the sources of potential recovery.

And those sources have been forming for some time. The price of oil and other commodities have fallen by two-thirds since their 2008 summer peak, which has the effect of a major tax cut. The world is awash in liquidity, thanks to monetary ease by the Federal Reserve and other central banks. Monetary policy operates with a lag, but last year's easing will eventually stir economic activity.

Housing prices have fallen 27% from their Case-Shiller peak, or some two-thirds of the way back to their historical trend. While still high, credit spreads are far from their peaks during the panic, and corporate borrowers are again able to tap the credit markets. As equities were signaling with their late 2008 rally and January top, growth should under normal circumstances begin to appear in the second half of this year.

So what has happened in the last two months? The economy has received no great new outside shock. Exchange rates and other prices have been stable, and there are no security crises of note. The reality of a sharp recession has been known and built into stock prices since last year's fourth quarter.

What is new is the unveiling of Mr. Obama's agenda and his approach to governance. Every new President has a finite stock of capital -- financial and political -- to deploy, and amid recession Mr. Obama has more than most. But one negative revelation has been the way he has chosen to spend his scarce resources on income transfers rather than growth promotion. Most of his "stimulus" spending was devoted to social programs, rather than public works, and nearly all of the tax cuts were devoted to income maintenance rather than to improving incentives to work or invest.

His Treasury has been making a similar mistake with its financial bailout plans. The banking system needs to work through its losses, and one necessary use of public capital is to assist in burning down those bad assets as fast as possible. Yet most of Team Obama's ministrations so far have gone toward triage and life support, rather than repair and recovery.

AIG yesterday received its fourth "rescue," including $70 billion in Troubled Asset Relief Program cash, without any clear business direction. (See here.) Citigroup's restructuring last week added not a dollar of new capital, and also no clear direction. Perhaps the imminent Treasury "stress tests" will clear the decks, but until they do the banks are all living in fear of becoming the next AIG. All of this squanders public money that could better go toward burning down bank debt.

The market has notably plunged since Mr. Obama introduced his budget last week, and that should be no surprise. The document was a declaration of hostility toward capitalists across the economy. Health-care stocks have dived on fears of new government mandates and price controls. Private lenders to students have been told they're no longer wanted. Anyone who uses carbon energy has been warned to expect a huge tax increase from cap and trade. And every risk-taker and investor now knows that another tax increase will slam the economy in 2011, unless Mr. Obama lets Speaker Nancy Pelosi impose one even earlier.

Meanwhile, Congress demands more bank lending even as it assails lenders and threatens to let judges rewrite mortgage contracts. The powers in Congress -- unrebuked by Mr. Obama -- are ridiculing and punishing the very capitalists who are essential to a sustainable recovery. The result has been a capital strike, and the return of the fear from last year that we could face a far deeper downturn. This is no way to nurture a wounded economy back to health.

Listening to Mr. Obama and his chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, on the weekend, we couldn't help but wonder if they appreciate any of this. They seem preoccupied with going to the barricades against Republicans who wield little power, or picking a fight with Rush Limbaugh, as if this is the kind of economic leadership Americans want.

Perhaps they're reading the polls and figure they have two or three years before voters stop blaming Republicans and Mr. Bush for the economy. Even if that's right in the long run, in the meantime their assault on business and investors is delaying a recovery and ensuring that the expansion will be weaker than it should be when it finally does arrive.
 
I find it humorous that anyone expected Wall Street to love Obama. Wall Street loves Republicans who will practice the kind of "hands-off" policies that helped them make millions. Democratic presidents bring regulation, oversight and tax increases instead of tax breaks.

I think Warren Buffett said it very well back in 2006: “There’s class warfare, all right,” Mr. Buffett said, “but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

Obama is shifting the battleground, and it's no surprise that those who had been winning the war are not happy.
 
I find it humorous that anyone expected Wall Street to love Obama. Wall Street loves Republicans who will practice the kind of "hands-off" policies that helped them make millions. Democratic presidents bring regulation, oversight and tax increases instead of tax breaks.

I think Warren Buffett said it very well back in 2006: “There’s class warfare, all right,” Mr. Buffett said, “but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

Obama is shifting the battleground, and it's no surprise that those who had been winning the war are not happy.
Funny, the Dow was doing great during the Clinton years, so I'm not sure how that squares with your "Wall Street Hates Democrats" theory. A lot of major Wall Street players also happen to be Democrats. Robert Rubin and Warren Buffet to name a couple. When it comes to making money, Wall Street is pretty non-partisan. Even Buffet, in his latest "annual letter" to his shareholders has sounded the warning bells regarding the side-effects of some of Obama's announced spending plans. For example, he thinks that inflation triggered by Obama's massive spending and deficit financing, is about to hit hard.
 
While Dawn may be guilty of overlooking the problems that got the financial mess "ball" rolling, you're overlooking that the recent "free fall" of the Dow since Jan 20th is pretty clearly a "no confidence" vote in the effort of the Obama administration thus far with regard their announced prescriptions to fix our financial institutions.

Actually I thought that was a "settled" issue so I didn't mention it.! I should have picked up on it however, because it is rare to hear a democrat admit that Fannie and Freddie were the problem. ;)
 
Yup - I'm not sure what the solution is but it's certainly not more of the same - we'll run out of paper to print money on..........

Which is the common theme of America. All criticism but no solutions.
 
Nope - my solution is to let it play itself out....... a lot of people feel that way.
 





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