Don't like the way they run the MNSSH

[aaarcher86]

I think it'd be nice if the park closed 30 min before the party starts to assist with changeover and weeding people out.

In hindsight, I saw a lot of band check points but didn't notice anyone being escorted out. I was October and hot so I doubt bands were hard to see.

 

[Dis703]

You had a very unusual experience because every MNSSHP and MVMCP I've ever been to, the CMs have been lined up to check for wristbands as you crossed into each land and at the entrance to each attraction, restaurant and even the bathrooms.

This was our experience at MVMCP. You basically could not have left main street if you didn't have a bracelet for the party and those who didn't were asked to leave the park.

 

[BugsDaddy]

Exactly. Disney does not require you be out the exit by closing time any other day. Or they wouldn't let you book ADRS until an hour before closing because most people won't be done and out of the park in an hour. But I guess all those who book that last ADR slot are a bunch of inconsiderate jerks that expect the place to stay open for them.

I think there is a big difference with having a late ADR or a late FP (late but before 7) where you have an actual purpose to be there vs. having nothing to do and suddenly deciding 10 minutes before 7 that you want to do this or do that. I think it just comes down to being considerate of other people's experience. I don't think it is inconsiderate to finish out a scheduled event before 7 or even a little after. I think it is inconsiderate to intentionally delay your departure to get a little "piece" of the party atmosphere.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I haven't read the whole thread, but I think the problem is that they let the party guests in too early.

 

[BuzzinDownToDisney]

At our MVMCP I must have had our wristbands checked no fewer than 15 times. My kid started making a game of it like it was a special fastpass.

 

[Disneyliscious]

Exactly. Disney does not require you be out the exit by closing time any other day.

Because Disney doesn't have other events on those nights. That is the difference. When guests have paid additional monies for a hard ticket event that is available ONLY to those paying the premium price, guests are expected to leave the park at the stated time of closure. Its 2 completely separate ticketed events. It would be no different than a person from USIOA running over and riding rides, eating, etc. They don't have a ticket to be there so they aren't allowed to be there. It is not unreasonable to expect guests to start making their way to toe parks exit at 6:45pm to be out by 7pm. If you want to stay in after 7pm, buy the hard ticket like everyone else. MNSSHP goers have paid for park time 7pm-midnight. Anyone without a MNSSHP ticket has not paid for park time past 7pm. Period.

But I guess all those who book that last ADR slot are a bunch of inconsiderate jerks that expect the place to stay open for them.

Nope. Disney has the expectation that last minute ADR's will carry over into park closing. They allow this. There is no hard ticket event after park closing (in this case) that the ADR's will interfere with. And on MNSSHP nights when people are allowed to stay past 7pm for an ADR its Disney being kind. It is NOT a guests right to remain in the park after 7pm for ANY reason without a MNSSHP ticket on a MNSSHP night.

 

[DonaldDuck77]

When guests have paid additional monies for a hard ticket event that is available ONLY to those paying the premium price, guests are expected to leave the park at the stated time of closure....It is not unreasonable to expect guests to start making their way to toe parks exit at 6:45pm to be out by 7pm. If you want to stay in after 7pm, buy the hard ticket like everyone else. MNSSHP goers have paid for park time 7pm-midnight. Anyone without a MNSSHP ticket has not paid for park time past 7pm. Period.

Nope. Disney has the expectation that last minute ADR's will carry over into park closing. They allow this. There is no hard ticket event after park closing (in this case) that the ADR's will interfere with. And on MNSSHP nights when people are allowed to stay past 7pm for an ADR its Disney being kind. It is NOT a guests right to remain in the park after 7pm for ANY reason without a MNSSHP ticket on a MNSSHP night.

Expected by whom? Disney allows you to get in line before 7. It is within my rights. I am not hanging around for pictures or the parade.

 

[Missyrose]

Disney does allow ADRs before 7 p.m. to those who aren't staying for the party. But those people will be escorted to the gate of the park after they're done eating.

 

[Nancyg56]

Would you go into any other business, minutes before closing time, and expect them to stay open for you? If they close at 7pm then that means they close at 7pm. Guests should have their itinerary completed and have exited the part by or before 7pm.

Disney does not work like that. You can get into any line prior to close and you will ride. You can make fining ADR's prior to 7 and they will be honored

 

[Nancyg56]

I think there is a big difference with having a late ADR or a late FP (late but before 7) where you have an actual purpose to be there vs. having nothing to do and suddenly deciding 10 minutes before 7 that you want to do this or do that. I think it just comes down to being considerate of other people's experience. I don't think it is inconsiderate to finish out a scheduled event before 7 or even a little after. I think it is inconsiderate to intentionally delay your departure to get alittle "piece" of the party atmosphere.

Again, Disney allows people to enjoy the parks up yo 7 on party night. If you are on a shop you may complete your purchase. People pay for their park passes and can dawdle as they choose.

 

[bumbershoot]

Just being in the parks isn't some amazing thing that people are being sneaky to do. The very few in this post who don't feel they have had a lot of bracelet checking, and the very few who have noticed lots of people that they feel did not have bands on, are the minority. So what they experienced is NOT how the parties are run. They got a fluke night or they thought they were seeing something other than what was happening. NO need to stay away because of it; CMs actually check for wristbands often and escort those without the wristbands out.

Did the OP indicate what time she was noticing all these problems?

 

[Disneyliscious]

Disney allows you to get in line before 7. It is within my rights.

Yes they do. It is also within Disneys rights to make sure you have exited the parks by 7pm if they choose. Just because you get an ADR at 6:55pm doesn't give you any "rights". Buying yourself a ticket does not guarantee you anything in the parks and for you to say you have "rights" shows a level of entitlement. Disney, historically, has chosen to allow people to use their ADR's before park opening or after park closing but it is not a "right" just because you get in line.

On the flip side, Disney has openly stated MNSSHP guests can enter the park at 4pm. It does not mean they can enter at 3:45pm if they have an ADR. I recently ran into this myself with a 4PM reservation on a MNSSHP night. I called to ask how it would work and was told that guests with a 4pm reservation would need to buy a regular day time ticket in order to meet their reservation time. It works both ways. If I don't pay to enter the park at 3:45 I don't get int. If someone doesn't pay to be in the park past 7pm but Disney lets them, consider it pixie dust. But they aren't entitled to anything. Given that, guests should also prepare for and understand that when Disney says the park closes at 7pm they can enforce it.

 

[vrajewski10513]

I'm hearing alot of what people are "entitled" to... Last I checked the only thing you were entitled to with your ticket is access to the park and the attractions included in your park ticket from open to close. Any additionals that Disney ALLOWS are a special extra... I dont think hanging around and dawdling so you can get around the system and stay longer than your supposed to on a party night is an "entitlement"

 

[Nancyg56]

I'm hearing alot of what people are "entitled" to... Last I checked the only thing you were entitled to with your ticket is access to the park and the attractions included in your park ticket from open to close. Any additionals that Disney ALLOWS are a special extra... I dont think hanging around and dawdling so you can get around the system and stay longer than your supposed to on a party night is an "entitlement"

You are entitled to stay until the park closes for the day. You cannot go in attractions, shop, or eat after 7 so dawdling is no harm no foul. If I pay for my ticket how I downs my time is my business as long as I do not violate the rules wdw has in place. Yoy( in general you) can believe what you want in terms of entitlement , but because you say it, does not make it so.

 

[Ava]

We went to MNSSHP last year, the last Friday in September, and it was more crowded than I expected it to be. I didn't notice people without wristbands and I did hear that our night was sold out, so I expect that Disney just sells too many tickets to these events. We didn't get to do as much as we'd hoped to but we still had a great time and want to go back again some day.

 

[ArwenMarie]

You are entitled to stay until the park closes for the day. You cannot go in attractions, shop, or eat after 7 so dawdling is no harm no foul. If I pay for my ticket how I downs my time is my business as long as I do not violate the rules wdw has in place. Yoy( in general you) can believe what you want in terms of entitlement , but because you say it, does not make it so.

I'm confused. So you can stay on a party night without a party ticket past 7 pm as long as you don't ride, shop or eat?

 

[DonaldDuck77]

Yes they do. It is also within Disneys rights to make sure you have exited the parks by 7pm if they choose. Just because you get an ADR at 6:55pm doesn't give you any "rights". Buying yourself a ticket does not guarantee you anything in the parks and for you to say you have "rights" shows a level of entitlement. Disney, historically, has chosen to allow people to use their ADR's before park opening or after park closing but it is not a "right" just because you get in line.

On the flip side, Disney has openly stated MNSSHP guests can enter the park at 4pm. It does not mean they can enter at 3:45pm if they have an ADR. I recently ran into this myself with a 4PM reservation on a MNSSHP night. I called to ask how it would work and was told that guests with a 4pm reservation would need to buy a regular day time ticket in order to meet their reservation time. It works both ways. If I don't pay to enter the park at 3:45 I don't get int. If someone doesn't pay to be in the park past 7pm but Disney lets them, consider it pixie dust. But they aren't entitled to anything. Given that, guests should also prepare for and understand that when Disney says the park closes at 7pm they can enforce it.

"Rights" was your word. If Disney starts cutting off lines early guessing how many people will be finished with an attraction (or restaurant, shop, etc.) at 7:00, then at that point, everyone without a wristband will be exiting the gates right at 7:00. They aren't going to do it just because you say they should.

 

[smitch425]

You are entitled to stay until the park closes for the day. You cannot go in attractions, shop, or eat after 7 so dawdling is no harm no foul. If I pay for my ticket how I downs my time is my business as long as I do not violate the rules wdw has in place. Yoy( in general you) can believe what you want in terms of entitlement , but because you say it, does not make it so.

There really is no "dawdling" allowed past 7pm, though, unlike normal nights. For guests with ADRs that run past 7pm, they are escorted straight to the gate with no stopping for any reason. Always a good idea to hit the restroom prior to exiting the restaurant. Lol

 

[Disneyliscious]

They aren't going to do it just because you say they should.

I didn't say they should. What I'm saying is that people like the OP shouldn't be surprised when Disney enforces their rules. Its written plain as day that the park closes at 7pm. Its not difficult to understand. If Disney lets you stay a bit longer, great! But the park closes at 7pm and they can enforce it if they choose. Expect it.

 

[DonaldDuck77]

I'm confused. So you can stay on a party night without a party ticket past 7 pm as long as you don't ride, shop or eat?

No. You aren't allowed to do anything past 7:00 other than walk to the exit. But you are allowed to enter an attraction line, an open restaurant, or shop (for non-party merchandise) before 7:00, and finish (at some point a few minutes past 7).