Dolphin found....

[tevagirl]

.....with mutant legs.

Please, oh please don't let cantw8 get wind of it.

 

[snowwite]

What no link? No pictures? I gotta see it!

 

[Bbgrizzle]

Yes, w8, please post a pic!!! I'm looking forward to seeing it.

 

[CarolG]

What no link? No pictures? I gotta see it!

What she said!

 

[txSleepingBeauty]

I only clicked on this to see a picture, but alas it wasn't to be

 

[Banshee]

http://www.comcast.net/news/science...E&fn=/2006/11/04/513888.html&cvqh=itn_dolphin

try this link

 

[Banshee]

Dolphins and whales were four footed land mammals about 50 million years ago. Maybe they are getting ready to come back out of the water!!!

 

[Banshee]

What she said!

That is cute!!!

 

[highland3]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.... very interesting!

 

[Golf4food]

When a human baby or a lamb is born with an extra arm or leg we call it an extra arm or leg. When we find a dolphin with an extra pair of fins we call them legs?

I will never buy large scale evolution because we have no examples of transitional animals. By mathematical necessity, if large scale evolution were true, there would have to be significant numbers of transitional animals alive at any given point in time, and yet we can never seem to find them. Do animals adapt? Absolutely. God isn't stupid. I'm certain that a God capable of creating and designing life would be capable of giving those creations the ability to adapt to environmental stimuli. But we are all the half-this animal / half-that animals? They don't exist.

Grasping at straws (or fins...) as always.

 

[AKLRULZ]

When a human baby or a lamb is born with an extra arm or leg we call it an extra arm or leg. When we find a dolphin with an extra pair of fins we call them legs?

I will never buy large scale evolution because we have no examples of transitional animals. By mathematical necessity, if large scale evolution were true, there would have to be significant numbers of transitional animals alive at any given point in time, and yet we can never seem to find them. Do animals adapt? Absolutely. God isn't stupid. I'm certain that a God capable of creating and designing life would be capable of giving those creations the ability to adapt to environmental stimuli. But we are all the half-this animal / half-that animals? They don't exist.

Grasping at straws (or fins...) as always.

Amen!

 

[mrsv98]

When a human baby or a lamb is born with an extra arm or leg we call it an extra arm or leg. When we find a dolphin with an extra pair of fins we call them legs?

I will never buy large scale evolution because we have no examples of transitional animals. By mathematical necessity, if large scale evolution were true, there would have to be significant numbers of transitional animals alive at any given point in time, and yet we can never seem to find them. Do animals adapt? Absolutely. God isn't stupid. I'm certain that a God capable of creating and designing life would be capable of giving those creations the ability to adapt to environmental stimuli. But we are all the half-this animal / half-that animals? They don't exist.

Grasping at straws (or fins...) as always.

Are you serious???

All animals/insects/fish are in a state of constant transition. There are clear trends in the fossil record and evidence today that animals change. Random mutations occur and if the changes are favorable to the environment, those specific animals are more successful and pass those traits along. If the mutation is not adaptive, then it is not passed to later generations.

There is a very clear case described in many biology text booksabout moths that lived in Manchester, England. The moths were predominantely white. As the industiral revolution occurred, the area became more polluted and the moths were in danger because they were so visible. At some point, a random mutation occurred and some of the moths emerged darker than their parents. The darker moths were more successful because they couldn't been seen (and subsequently eaten) as easily. Now, all of this specific type of moth are dark. Evolution at work.

Just because you can't find a "smoking gun" doesn't mean evolution is bunk. Many of the changes were subtle over a vast period of time. In terms of the sea mammals. If you look at a skelton of a whale, you can clearly see that the bones inside the front fins are metatarsals, i.e. fingers. It doesn't mean that one day a bunch of whales woke up with fins, the changes took hundreds of thousands if not millions or years to occur. But it is fairly clear they did occur.

I am a faithful Christian, but the evolutionary science is pretty convincing.

 

[Golf4food]

Are you serious???

All animals/insects/fish are in a state of constant transition. There are clear trends in the fossil record and evidence today that animals change. Random mutations occur and if the changes are favorable to the environment, those specific animals are more successful and pass those traits along. If the mutation is not adaptive, then it is not passed to later generations.

There is a very clear case described in many biology text booksabout moths that lived in Manchester, England. The moths were predominantely white. As the industiral revolution occurred, the area became more polluted and the moths were in danger because they were so visible. At some point, a random mutation occurred and some of the moths emerged darker than their parents. The darker moths were more successful because they couldn't been seen (and subsequently eaten) as easily. Now, all of this specific type of moth are dark. Evolution at work.

Just because you can't find a "smoking gun" doesn't mean evolution is bunk. Many of the changes were subtle over a vast period of time. In terms of the sea mammals. If you look at a skelton of a whale, you can clearly see that the bones inside the front fins are metatarsals, i.e. fingers. It doesn't mean that one day a bunch of whales woke up with fins, the changes took hundreds of thousands if not millions or years to occur. But it is fairly clear they did occur.

I am a faithful Christian, but the evolutionary science is pretty convincing.

And how much have you studied the opposition? (i.e. creationism, intelligent design?) The situation with the peppered moths is certainly one of adaptation, but if it is evolution it is only on a small scale. Indeed, now that environmental standards are higher, the moths are once again turning white - adapting to their environment the way God designed them to do.

And last I checked, whales have pretty big fins - perhaps they need their fingers in order to get proper leverage in the deep water to move their fins and propel themselves through the crushing pressure of the sea. Just because an animal shows a similarity in design does not mean that they are necessarily related.

There is evidence for evolution/adaptation. There is also a lot of evidence against evolution. And even if you want to claim evolution exists, you still can't provide any explaination for creation: life does not come from rock. Where did it all begin? Science still has no answer for that question. Big bang my a$$. Life didn't just spring out of some primordial ooze and make its way to become Albert Einstein on its own. It had help. Devine help.

Smoking guns aren't even the question. There aren't even any smoking slings with rocks or smoking bows and arrows. Science has a long way before they can even sniff a smoking gun. If man evolved from apes, why are there still apes? Where are the half-man / half-apes? Where are the mostly-ape / partly man? Where are the mostly men / partly ape? Etc., etc., etc. and on it goes. The truth is that there are no true transitional species alive on the planet today and the only evidence for them in the fossil record is very iffy at best and there are very few examples even of those.

I don't doubt for one second that the God who created the universe could also give His creations the ability to grow and adapt and change with their environment. But I have yet to see anything proving the scientific theory of evolution is anything more than a bunch of quasi-athiests attempts to explain away God so that they don't have to answer to any higher power than their own selfishness.

They can believe what they want, but so can I and I'm perfectly capable of descerning for myself what I should believe and they have no right to tell me I'm stupid for believing in it. (Neither do I have a right to call them stupid.) But don't feed me a pack of lies and conjecture as outright fact. Until a heck of a lot more true evidence is put forth, the scientific theory of evolution will remain a proposition and not a fact.

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

Dolphins and whales were four footed land mammals about 50 million years ago. Maybe they are getting ready to come back out of the water!!!

Dolphins are taking over the world!

 

[SwedishMeatball]

Nice going teva.

 

[monami7]

When a human baby or a lamb is born with an extra arm or leg we call it an extra arm or leg. When we find a dolphin with an extra pair of fins we call them legs?

I will never buy large scale evolution because we have no examples of transitional animals. By mathematical necessity, if large scale evolution were true, there would have to be significant numbers of transitional animals alive at any given point in time, and yet we can never seem to find them. Do animals adapt? Absolutely. God isn't stupid. I'm certain that a God capable of creating and designing life would be capable of giving those creations the ability to adapt to environmental stimuli. But we are all the half-this animal / half-that animals? They don't exist.

Grasping at straws (or fins...) as always.

I am with you!

 

[tevagirl]

Nice going teva.

 

[Honu]

But I have yet to see anything proving the scientific theory of evolution is anything more than a bunch of quasi-athiests attempts to explain away God so that they don't have to answer to any higher power than their own selfishness.

Umm, okay. I'm selfish because I don't believe what you believe?

 

[Laugh O. Grams]

Umm, okay. I'm selfish because I don't believe what you believe?

Don't take it personally, you're not selfish, just well informed...

As for whether this dolphin is some sort of proof of evolution, well that's for the scientists to figure out, not the newpapers or media. I'll tell you one thing, it certainly makes for an eye catching headline!!

 

[LiLIrishChick63]

....to me it just looks like an extra set of fins. it doesn't look like "hands" i dunno what the big deal is with all the scientists "omg it looks like a human palm"

anyway, babies are born with tails, i really don't think that a dolphin with an extra set of fins is really that big a deal.