*Doing the Donald in 2010* Jan. Half Marathon Support Thread!

[cj9200]

Thanks for the encouragement and advice. The foot was not running related just doing something stupid. The Hamstring was and I think a trainer is a good idea.

While down, I am not out. Will be back at it as soon as the doctor clears me. There is a Disney race in my future. In the meantime, kick Buttocks everyone.

 

[dismagiclover]

Awww CJ I'm sorry to hear your bad news, but I love that you still have the spunk to keep going! And you are right about the Disney races. I don't think they are going anywhere so you can set a new goal! I hope your recovery goes well and you are back on the trails soon

 

[liznboys]

CJ, I'm so, so sorry you had to cancel. I'm sure you and your DD will do a Disney race in the not too distant future though... This is just a little detour on your journey!

Thank you for the encouragement!

 

[ArelysAdriana]

My hopes of not getting injured in these last crucial weeks have been diminished. I hurt my back doing the laundry on Sunday night. I have no clue how it happened, I wasn't even carrying anything heavy when I started having some really sharp pains in my lower back. It hurt so badly that it knocked the wind out of me. I spent a miserable night on Sunday trying everything possible to make it better with no success. I took off work so that I could rest & see a dr. I went to a chiropractor on my dad's suggestion since he had something similar happen to him a few years ago, so I figured I'd take his advice. To say that I'm not very thrilled with the experience is an understatement.

Everyone in the office was super nice & my back feels MUCH better (I can walk! & stand! & I slept last night!) but the chiro was such a Debbie Downer about me (or anyone for that matter) doing the half. I'm chubby & he told me people of my size shouldn't be doing half marathons or marathons period, no matter how much prior training is done. He actually said that no regular, average person should be doing these things & it should be left to "real, properly trained athletes." He asked me how committed I am to this & when I told him I was married to it, he said I need to realize that I probably won't be able to do it. I felt like crying right then & there.

I have another appointment tomorrow morning, which I'm not really looking forward to & I think that will be the end of my chiro visits. Part of me understands what he is saying, but the other part is peeved because he doesn't know how I've been training & how slow I've been taking things. I'm not trying to sprint to the finish, I simply do a walk/light jog combo & he told me even that is too much.

My training is on hold until tomorrow. If I'm feeling good tomorrow afternoon, I'll do an easy walk, no jogging or running, just to get some miles in. If I'm not I'll just continue to rest until the weekend & I'll see how I feel then. I feel good enough to walk right now, but I don't want to push it. I'm really worried how this will affect me since we're down to the last 3 weeks, but I'll just be playing it by ear.

I pulled a hamstring and decided to cancel our plans for the Donald. First my foot got messed up and now this. No way will I be able to hobble through 13 miles. There were nearly tears in my eyes when I called DVC reservations to cancel our stay.

The bad thing is that my daughter would have finished. The big BUT is that I have quit smoking and was up to 5 miles a run/walk. Still subscribing and am rooting for all of you to kick major behinds.

Best of luck to all of you. We will see you at another race.

I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you get better & hopefully start training for 2011! Thanks for the encouraging words.

 

[mla1977]

Sorry your chiro was so negative. I'm sure mine would have said the same thing, but my PCP is fine with me doing the race. She even cleared me for the full had I decided to stick with it. I am by no means a real, properly trained athlete. I've been training for a long time for this and I know what my limits are. If this doc is putting any doubts in your mind, seen you PCP.

 

[dsnyfan21]

AA: Sorry to hear about what your Chiro said. Not sure that was the best advice to give someone. If you are following a training program, then isn't it the best thing to get out and do some walking/jogging to help lose the weight? I was taken aback by what this person said to you. Sorry to say, and nothing again them, but some Chiro's are a bit on the strange side.

CJ: Sorry to hear about your set back. I see you are in Miami, are you able to do the Miami ING Half? I am signed up for it and will be there if you are interested. I like the course.

Training is moving along for me. Just 2 weeks out from completing a half Marathon so took some 8 milers in there. This weekend will be a 12 miler or so and then taper for WDW!!! I like taper!!

Be CAREFUL out there people!! Can't wait to see all us Donald medal wearers out there after its all over!!

-Racey Tracy

 

[ArelysAdriana]

Sorry your chiro was so negative. I'm sure mine would have said the same thing, but my PCP is fine with me doing the race. She even cleared me for the full had I decided to stick with it. I am by no means a real, properly trained athlete. I've been training for a long time for this and I know what my limits are. If this doc is putting any doubts in your mind, seen you PCP.

I figured I'd get some crap for it, but he was really, really beating me down about it. He mentioned not doing it at least 4 times during the visit & told me to just cancel it if I could. I don't have a PCP here yet, but I'll probably be trying to find one soon. I think my first question will be "how do you feel about me doing half marathons?"

AA: Sorry to hear about what your Chiro said. Not sure that was the best advice to give someone. If you are following a training program, then isn't it the best thing to get out and do some walking/jogging to help lose the weight? I was taken aback by what this person said to you. Sorry to say, and nothing again them, but some Chiro's are a bit on the strange side.

I have lost some weight while training, but the biggest change has been in how I feel. I sleep better, I'm less tired, I have more energy & I actually eat better. I figured most Drs would be for that, but I guess not. I was pretty surprised by what he said too. Oh well, after tomorrow's appointment I won't be going back.

 

[liznboys]

Arelys~ Wow, Debbie Downer is right! I don't understand why he wouldn't want you to participate in this event? Makes no sense to me. I'm glad your back feels better though. I would just take what you want from this guy, and let the rest blow away with the wind... You can think of him when you need some angry feelings to get you through mile 12.

 

[cewait]

My hopes of not getting injured in these last crucial weeks have been diminished. I hurt my back doing the laundry on Sunday night. I have no clue how it happened, I wasn't even carrying anything heavy when I started having some really sharp pains in my lower back. It hurt so badly that it knocked the wind out of me. I spent a miserable night on Sunday trying everything possible to make it better with no success. I took off work so that I could rest & see a dr. I went to a chiropractor on my dad's suggestion since he had something similar happen to him a few years ago, so I figured I'd take his advice. To say that I'm not very thrilled with the experience is an understatement.

Everyone in the office was super nice & my back feels MUCH better (I can walk! & stand! & I slept last night!) but the chiro was such a Debbie Downer about me (or anyone for that matter) doing the half. I'm chubby & he told me people of my size shouldn't be doing half marathons or marathons period, no matter how much prior training is done. He actually said that no regular, average person should be doing these things & it should be left to "real, properly trained athletes." He asked me how committed I am to this & when I told him I was married to it, he said I need to realize that I probably won't be able to do it. I felt like crying right then & there.

I have another appointment tomorrow morning, which I'm not really looking forward to & I think that will be the end of my chiro visits. Part of me understands what he is saying, but the other part is peeved because he doesn't know how I've been training & how slow I've been taking things. I'm not trying to sprint to the finish, I simply do a walk/light jog combo & he told me even that is too much.

My training is on hold until tomorrow. If I'm feeling good tomorrow afternoon, I'll do an easy walk, no jogging or running, just to get some miles in. If I'm not I'll just continue to rest until the weekend & I'll see how I feel then. I feel good enough to walk right now, but I don't want to push it. I'm really worried how this will affect me since we're down to the last 3 weeks, but I'll just be playing it by ear.

You know you are going to run into negative forces if you stick with this sport. They can be cruel without even meaning to be. Ignore them. Regardless of your size or shape this is a sport that most everyone can do. Do not let them intimidate you into thinking you should not be here.

With regard to the chiro I would be tempted to let him know your displeasure with a no-show visit. Obviously he is not working in your best interest at this point.

As for the immediate future – do not go out at all. Keep your diet in check during this period – worrying can cause hand to mouth disease. Since the injury was severe enough to seek treatment I am of the opinion that you should stay away for a week. Take an anti-inflammatory and enjoy this week. Then the week of Christmas just fall back onto the taper schedule in your training plan. You are good to go – just heal up.

 

[zakismom]

AA - OM Goodness! What a horrible experience. You need to find another chiro ASAP!!!! I am by no means a small person, and I have had people look at me like I have 2 heads when I mention I marathon - I can tell what they are thinking by the scan they give me from head to toe. I love to see the look on their face when I casually throw in that 18 miler I did last weekend, or the 5 1/2 marathons I have in a 8 week period next Spring. I'm never going to be tiny, but while most of these doubters are sleeping in on the weekend, I am out there training. Never let someone else dictate to you how you should feel or what you can do. YOU HAVE WORKED FOR THIS, in 3 weeks you will be proudly wearing your medal and this will be a distant memory. Now let's get out there and kick some asphalt!!!!

 

[JoanneNC]

AA - OM Goodness! What a horrible experience. You need to find another chiro ASAP!!!! I am by no means a small person, and I have had people look at me like I have 2 heads when I mention I marathon - I can tell what they are thinking by the scan they give me from head to toe. I love to see the look on their face when I casually throw in that 18 miler I did last weekend, or the 5 1/2 marathons I have in a 8 week period next Spring. I'm never going to be tiny, but while most of these doubters are sleeping in on the weekend, I am out there training. Never let someone else dictate to you how you should feel or what you can do. YOU HAVE WORKED FOR THIS, in 3 weeks you will be proudly wearing your medal and this will be a distant memory. Now let's get out there and kick some asphalt!!!!

WOW

 

[bunnyfoo]

AA - The practitioners I work with (chiro and PT) have a similar saying. I think it's something like you don't run to get in shape, you run because you are in shape. I wasn't really happy the first time I heard it but when I thought about it, I understand it a little more. They were basically telling me that I needed to do more core and weight training because that's what was going to help me improve my running and that's what was going to keep me injury free (more or less).

It was tough for me to take in but I know they were looking out for me. Hopefully your chiro had your best interests at heart even if it came out in an inappropriate way. Were there any rehab exercises he gave you to help prevent future injuries?

CJ - Sorry to hear you're pulling out The Disney races will always be here. Btw, congrats on quitting smoking!

 

[luvsTink]

All of these different philosophies are very interesting to me! My MD and my PT have been very supportive of my efforts.....although I am always sure to say I am walk/running the half. I am definatley overweight (see my ticker below), and I do work core and weight lifting, but the half has been my constant inspiration. Very interesting indeed.

Anne

 

[Ronda93]

A day passes and my legs feel fine. Given that I am apparently a delicate flower and cannot run in cold temps I am eyeing the forecast. This Saturday should be 10 miles. Thursday is 6. Can I flip these two? Thursday is going to be 40* and calm. Saturday will be 20* with 15 mph winds. I've developed a strong preference for being outside. I could do six on the TM Saturday, but 10 sounds like complete torture.

What says the WISH?

Ronda

 

[dismagiclover]

Ronda: I'm no expert, but I've read before that it isn't a problem to switch days around within your training schedule. I think you'll be just fine doing the 10 miler in better weather. 10 miles in 15 degrees with a brisk breeze would definitely make me look for alternatives too! Good luck!

 

[cewait]

Switch them and stay warm.

Though if you have a run on Wednesday night I would say pay attention to the body. It is preferable to get a rest day on each side of the long run if possible. If you do run Wednesday you will still be fine, just listen.






IT IS GETTING Sooooo CLOSE TO TAPER MADNESS!!!!

 

[liznboys]

WOW

Ditto. zakismom, that is awesome! How do you manage to do that with training and all? What are your plans?

 

[liznboys]

Happy Wednesday all... My new Garmin 205 was delivered yesterday. It isn't as huge on my skinny little wrist as I thought it would be so that's good. haha I can't wait to use it.

My knee is not all better but I am DYING to run. I want to do a slow/short/easy run tomorrow. So that's the plan.

When I ran on it last Thursday it hurt for the first half a mile, but then felt a lot better for the next 3.5 miles. I wonder what that means as far as what exactly is wrong with it? Is it a good sign if it feels better after warming up? ..Are you on here today Coach Charles?

 

[cewait]

Happy Wednesday all... My new Garmin 205 was delivered yesterday. It isn't as huge on my skinny little wrist as I thought it would be so that's good. haha I can't wait to use it.

My knee is not all better but I am DYING to run. I want to do a slow/short/easy run tomorrow. So that's the plan.

When I ran on it last Thursday it hurt for the first half a mile, but then felt a lot better for the next 3.5 miles. I wonder what that means as far as what exactly is wrong with it? Is it a good sign if it feels better after warming up? ..Are you on here today Coach Charles?

Not necessarily. Injuries feel better when they are warmed, blood vessels are dilated and blood volumes high. (think hot pad) I think you still have an issue that needs to heal. It sounds soft tissue oriented but you cannot rule out something else just based on this. Just pay attention to the knee. Ice when you get home and I think I would find a compression sleeve to wear when not running.

RICE = Rest Ice Compression Elevation.
Rest - we have a week off – hopefully most of the inflammatory issue is gone.
Ice – Ice after each run and maybe a time or two that day. Icing is properly done by placing an ice pad on the affected area. A dry cloth is suggested to prevent frost bite. Leave on the area for 10-15 minutes MAX. Allow to cool same period then redo. Apply Ice 2-4 times in one session. I use a Ziploc with crushed ice and water. Frozen peas work great.
Compression. Diminishes the pain and provides heat through the day and keeps diminishes micro bleeds in the inflamed area
Elevation – similar to compression, reduces micro bleeding.

 

[liznboys]

Not necessarily. Injuries feel better when they are warmed, blood vessels are dilated and blood volumes high. (think hot pad) I think you still have an issue that needs to heal. It sounds soft tissue oriented but you cannot rule out something else just based on this. Just pay attention to the knee. Ice when you get home and I think I would find a compression sleeve to wear when not running.

RICE = Rest Ice Compression Elevation.
Rest - we have a week off – hopefully most of the inflammatory issue is gone.
Ice – Ice after each run and maybe a time or two that day. Icing is properly done by placing an ice pad on the affected area. A dry cloth is suggested to prevent frost bite. Leave on the area for 10-15 minutes MAX. Allow to cool same period then redo. Apply Ice 2-4 times in one session. I use a Ziploc with crushed ice and water. Frozen peas work great.
Compression. Diminishes the pain and provides heat through the day and keeps diminishes micro bleeds in the inflamed area
Elevation – similar to compression, reduces micro bleeding.

Thank you, thank you! I kinda figured the "not necessarily" answer was coming, but hoped it wasn't.

So compression sleeve huh? I have no clue about them, I will research. "micro bleeds"...that gave me the willies!